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« Reply #150 on: October 26, 2012, 03:45:29 AM »

I think it was just another stage of a single which he wasn't satisfied with and he merrily plowed on until he got the stage he was satisfied with just as he had done with GV.
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« Reply #151 on: October 26, 2012, 05:59:54 AM »

I doubt "merrily".
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« Reply #152 on: October 26, 2012, 08:24:31 AM »

I doubt "merrily".

Presumably "merrily" enough to pile everbody into cars to deliver it to KHJ immediately [I guess we settled KHJ?].
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« Reply #153 on: October 27, 2012, 04:49:17 PM »

Seeing it like that is interesting, especially because it's easier to compare master numbers. what do you guys think of Brian's master numbers? 57020 seems to represent work done on the Cantina version. I think the 57020 period corresponds to Brian's absolute creative zenith and his failure there in assembling a mix that satisfied him was sort of the core disappointed of his life, the one that all his misfortunes seemed to converge upon, and the one that reverberated throughout the rest of his life affecting everything thereafter.

I think the master numbers [and eye witnesses] show in early March Brian had a version of the H&V single side 1 [Master # 57020] he was happy with at mo' and a master for the H&V single side 2 [Master #57045] which he had been working on [and off] since January which was far-along/finished and as far as we know was coincidently samples of themes from the other SMiLE album tracks: DYLW, Fire, OMP...and....has something else been identified for that 57045 master number?
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« Reply #154 on: October 27, 2012, 05:01:24 PM »

All this research about Smile for the PSS project is leading me to believe that "Holidays" is actually part of the Elements, as is Vega-Tables.

Now, when answering the question about "How can Wind Chimes and Vega-Tables be listed on the back if they're part of the elements.

(This next part may make people go "oh whatever" but think about it.
Strangely, I'm working on a suite now, and I have a track in the middle that i think is single worthy, and I'm scarred that if I take it out,
the suite gets dumbed down, but if I don't, it gets lost in the mix. Easiest solution? Include it on the sleeve separate from the suite, but
still listed as part of it ("Read label for track listing")


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« Reply #155 on: October 29, 2012, 06:17:43 AM »

Interesting theory on the Vega-Tables seperate listing from The Elements, but you're wrong about one thing: They were not "listed on the back", because the SMiLE album was not finished. They were listed on a dummy for the back based on a cobbled together track list of uncertain origin.

I do agree that Holidays would work well as part of The Elements, to me as earth rather than air. But as the BWPS lyrics to it seem to be mostly from 1966, it is unlikely that Holidays was conceived as part of The Elements. Of course, it found its place in the elemental suite on BWPS! Smiley
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