"Made in California" Box Set

[drbeachboy]

Everybody is in a panic because someone told someone that Mike Love is cutting out tracks and fucking up the box set. It's what we do here.

[EgoHanger1966]

Haha. Well, you're probably right. I'm sure we'll be delighted with the box (or gripe about it. one of those...) come January or whenever it's released. It's just that with this band there's always an element of uncertainty. You know things exist that we want to hear, we just have to hope that a good chunk magically makes it's way into our grubby little hands.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I think all you guys are crazy. You reaaaaaaaaaaally don't think they are gonna come up with the goods? That despite coming through big time with the release The SMiLE Sessions, and the remasters of 12 albums, they are gonna screw this up? I highly doubt it. There are quite a few things of The Beach Boys I'd never thought that I'd hear, but I feel extremely confident that in January 2013, I'll be hearing most of those things, and more! They are not just gonna put out a box set with just previously released material. And I highly doubt there are just gonna put like two unreleased songs on this thing. It will be done well. And every day we are getting closer to an announcement regarding the track listing.

Exactly. I have a *real* good feeling about this...

[drbeachboy]

I think all you guys are crazy. You reaaaaaaaaaaally don't think they are gonna come up with the goods? That despite coming through big time with the release The SMiLE Sessions, and the remasters of 12 albums, they are gonna screw this up? I highly doubt it. There are quite a few things of The Beach Boys I'd never thought that I'd hear, but I feel extremely confident that in January 2013, I'll be hearing most of those things, and more! They are not just gonna put out a box set with just previously released material. And I highly doubt there are just gonna put like two unreleased songs on this thing. It will be done well. And every day we are getting closer to an announcement regarding the track listing.

Exactly. I have a *real* good feeling about this...

I do too, and I will be buying it.

[The Heartical Don]

It may be a rather dull box set, coming with a personal statement from the Lovester, titled:

"For our true fans, here is a list of tracks that I myself nixed:"

...and then follows an enumeration of 30 track titles that we've all been drooling over during the last decade.

Mark my words, fellows. It could happen.

[Andrew G. Doe]

This thread amuses me more and more each day. 

37 pages and all we have is a title and the number of discs, yet folk are still bitching because of what they think might be on it.  Beach Boys fans - gotta love 'em. 

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Al Jardine told me they were recording new songs for the box.  Also wondering if the some of the rejects ffrom TWGMTR will be included.

[The Shift]

Just played the new stereo mix of Wild Honey from 50BOs… JEEEEEZ the vocals are other-worldly! Astonishing leap forward.  If there's more of this on the box, I'm ecstatically died-n'-gone-to-Heaven happy.






Even if we don't get to know what's on it in advance, I'll be buying it to find out!

It's a fan thing.

[The Shift]

Al Jardine told me they were recording new songs for the box.  Also wondering if the some of the rejects ffrom TWGMTR will be included.

Not sure about the word "rejects"; rather implies sub-standard which might well not be the case. From what I've discerned from various posts, plenty of material wasn't actually completed, only the stuff BW deemed suitable for this album. Is Good Vibrations a "reject" just because BW decided not to complete it for inclusion on Pet Sounds? Is Surf's Up a "reject" because it was passed on for Smiley Smile and Wild Honey?

Not complaining, by the way, just being semantic-pedantic.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Just played the new stereo mix of Wild Honey from 50BOs… JEEEEEZ the vocals are other-worldly! Astonishing leap forward.  If there's more of this on the box, I'm ecstatically died-n'-gone-to-Heaven happy.






Even if we don't get to know what's on it in advance, I'll be buying it to find out!

It's a fan thing.

Hope we get the WHOLE album in stereo!!!!!!

[The Heartical Don]

Just played the new stereo mix of Wild Honey from 50BOs… JEEEEEZ the vocals are other-worldly! Astonishing leap forward.  If there's more of this on the box, I'm ecstatically died-n'-gone-to-Heaven happy.






Even if we don't get to know what's on it in advance, I'll be buying it to find out!

It's a fan thing.

Hope we get the WHOLE album in stereo!!!!!!

Suppose the whole of stereo WH is the big X-factor on the box. Then I will buy it. Absolutely.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

Al Jardine told me they were recording new songs for the box.  Also wondering if the some of the rejects ffrom TWGMTR will be included.

Not sure about the word "rejects"; rather implies sub-standard which might well not be the case. From what I've discerned from various posts, plenty of material wasn't actually completed, only the stuff BW deemed suitable for this album. Is Good Vibrations a "reject" just because BW decided not to complete it for inclusion on Pet Sounds? Is Surf's Up a "reject" because it was passed on for Smiley Smile and Wild Honey?

Not complaining, by the way, just being semantic-pedantic.

Oh John, don't be silly. If you think Capital decided to keep a new song in the can on par with "Surf's Up" or "Good Vibrations", I have some swamp land in Florida to sell ya. Heck, how many entire albums have the Beach Boys had rejected in their career? 2? 4? 6?

From Bellagio 10452
"The story of The Beach Boys first release for Warner-Reprise is one that has undergone changes over the years before the diligent research of Brad Elliott finally nailed down the true facts. Concisely, the accepted view was that the original version of Sunflower (above) was submitted to Reprise, rejected, reworked and resubmitted as Add Some Music, rejected again, revised once more and finally accepted as the released Sunflower. "

I've read numerous times that a bunch of tracks(25?) were submitted to Capital and they picked the songs. (Course, this is what I read so it's speculation - AGD hasn't confirmed it.)  They, for the album, rejected Bruce's song.  It was finished. "Waves of Love" wasn't finished from what I hear. Seemingly, Brian rejected it by not working on it though Al told me they were recording it for the box.

Course, we wouldn't reject them, we want to hear everything!

[Loaf]

Still all speculation at this stage, but coming back to the proportion of unreleased material on the 1993 GV Box.

Disc 4 (1973-present) had, what one unreleased track on it? I would certainly hope the new set has more than one unreleased track per disc. Having said that, Disc 5 was all (basically) unreleased, and the box had 20 minutes of Smile material. So, on average, what, almost 2 discs worth out of 5 was unreleased? I'd be very happy with a 30% unreleased-released ratio.

[hypehat]

Loaf, it actually has a few - Fairy Tale Music, It's Over Now,  Still I Dream Of It and Our Team. Which, considering it was throwing a decade into 25 tracks, isn't so bad.

[The Shift]

Oh John, don't be silly. If you think Capital decided to keep a new song in the can on par with "Surf's Up" or "Good Vibrations", I have some swamp land in Florida to sell ya.

I've read numerous times that a bunch of tracks(25?) were submitted to Capital and they picked the songs. (Course, this is what I read so it's speculation - AGD hasn't confirmed it.)  They, for the album, rejected Bruce's song.  It was finished. "Waves of Love" wasn't finished from what I hear. Seemingly, Brian rejected it by not working on it though Al told me they were recording it for the box.

Al might argue that there are three versions of WoL simply awaiting fresh vocal overdubs!

Course, we wouldn't reject them, we want to hear everything!

I don't envy anyone compiling this box… I'd be happy hearing every song in demo & finished stages and all points in-between.

Wasn't aware that the pitched TWGMTR tracks "rejected" by Capitol were all fully completed and not just demos, though. There's so much more to this story that I'd love to know.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

Still all speculation at this stage, but coming back to the proportion of unreleased material on the 1993 GV Box.

Disc 4 (1973-present) had, what one unreleased track on it? I would certainly hope the new set has more than one unreleased track per disc. Having said that, Disc 5 was all (basically) unreleased, and the box had 20 minutes of Smile material. So, on average, what, almost 2 discs worth out of 5 was unreleased? I'd be very happy with a 30% unreleased-released ratio.

I remember counting, track wise, it was exactly a 1/3

[The Heartical Don]

This thread amuses me more and more each day. 

37 pages and all we have is a title and the number of discs, yet folk are still bitching because of what they think might be on it.  Beach Boys fans - gotta love 'em. 

I think that we operate in the footsteps of philosopher Martin Heidegger, who could write whole chapters on the topic of nothing. In German it reads like: 'Das Nichts nichtet...' = 'The Nothing nothings...'.

Either that, or Ludwig Wittgenstein, that is also an option. Wittgenstein is one of the greatest philosophers of language that ever existed.

'Alles, worüber wir sprechen können, das sind ein Titel, und eine bestimmte Anzahl von Platten. Über den Rest sollen wir vorläufig schweigen, da wir nur erraten können, waß sich letztendlich auf den Platten befindet. Eine Vergleichung mit der Katze Schrödingers läßt sich machen. Ungeöffnet bietet die Box eine unendliche Zahl von Möglichkeiten, in Prinzip könnten alle Lieder bis jetzt unveröffentliche Werke der Gruppe sein. Met dem Akt des Öffnens aber begrenzen wir selbst die Möglichkeiten bis zu nur eine - die faktische Liste der Nummern. Die analogie mit der Limitierung der Anzahl von elementaren Seinszuständen im Ramen des radioaktiven Zerfalls ist perfekt".

We're brilliant, that's what.

[Freddie French-Pounce]

I would LOVE Chasin' The Sky to be on the box

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI-Lway3bdM

[Nicko1234]

I would LOVE Chasin' The Sky to be on the box

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DI-Lway3bdM

That should be included but maybe Capitol don`t have the rights?

[I. Spaceman]

I'd pay an extra 5 dollars if the master tape to Chasin' The Sky was burned.

[The Heartical Don]

I'd pay an extra 5 dollars if the master tape to Chasin' The Sky was burned.

Too much honour to rank that track with the SMiLE stuff.

Just sayin'.

[drbeachboy]

I'd pay an extra 5 dollars if the master tape to Chasin' The Sky was burned.

The song itself is just OK, but it is the last of the intricate background vocals done by the band. Well worth a listen just to hear them.

[EgoHanger1966]

Mark Linett said this on a Facebook thread I saw - regarding Wild Honey - the album - in stereo.

"WIld Honey the song is in stereo for the first time on 50 Big Ones as is "Darlin" , but some of the songs on the album would be impossible to do in true remixed stereo because only some of the lead vocals exist on the multi-track. On several songs the group recorded the vocals for the first verse , mixed that verse down and then recorded the next verse vocals over the first ones mixed that verse down and so on. I want to say maybe a third of the album has this problem"

[Shady]

Mark Linett said this on a Facebook thread I saw - regarding Wild Honey - the album - in stereo.

"WIld Honey the song is in stereo for the first time on 50 Big Ones as is "Darlin" , but some of the songs on the album would be impossible to do in true remixed stereo because only some of the lead vocals exist on the multi-track. On several songs the group recorded the vocals for the first verse , mixed that verse down and then recorded the next verse vocals over the first ones mixed that verse down and so on. I want to say maybe a third of the album has this problem"

Well....

I...

Am...

Devastated....

[I. Spaceman]

Mark Linett said this on a Facebook thread I saw - regarding Wild Honey - the album - in stereo.

"WIld Honey the song is in stereo for the first time on 50 Big Ones as is "Darlin" , but some of the songs on the album would be impossible to do in true remixed stereo because only some of the lead vocals exist on the multi-track. On several songs the group recorded the vocals for the first verse , mixed that verse down and then recorded the next verse vocals over the first ones mixed that verse down and so on. I want to say maybe a third of the album has this problem"

A Thing Or Two and Here Comes The Night are definitely two of those, from the evidence of the Unsurpassed Masters volume with Honey sessions.