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« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2012, 12:58:39 PM »

Not many people are reading other people's posts in this thread.  police
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« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2012, 01:27:58 PM »

Surprising nobody's brought up "My Solution" to "Happy Days" yet. Where Brian borrowing the general feel of other folks' records is concerned....is it just me or does "Isn't It Time" bear a kinship to "What A Fool Believes" with which Brian has long had a love/fear relationship?

Speaking of "Happy Days," the opening piano riff was stolen from "Holidays."
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« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2012, 02:13:01 PM »

Surprising nobody's brought up "My Solution" to "Happy Days" yet. Where Brian borrowing the general feel of other folks' records is concerned....is it just me or does "Isn't It Time" bear a kinship to "What A Fool Believes" with which Brian has long had a love/fear relationship?

Speaking of "Happy Days," the opening piano riff was stolen from "Holidays."

I don't understand how things like this happen. Not to further claim Brian isn't in the driver's seat with his own music, but given things we know (wasn't it Darian's idea to bring back the chant that opens "Morning Beat", or insert "Can't Wait Too Long" onto TLOS?), it feels like some songs come about due to Brian's folks digging through his back catalog looking for ideas he can use. I know Brian was known even in the 60s and 70s to pilfer old ideas years after they first came about, but some (definitely not all) of the recent examples seem a little off.

I just can't picture Brian suddenly saying, "I'm gonna bring back 'My Solution' with confessional lyrics about the struggles I've had in my life! And throw a terrible rendition of a piano bit from a Smile piece in the beginning for good measure!" I could be totally wrong, and obviously he went with it either way, but it just doesn't seem like an idear born in his head alone.

"My Solution" was a lot of fun, Brian surely recognizes this, but "Happy Days" is... well, it's definitely not a lot of fun. The end result is just so bad. The ridiculous intro (with non-ridiculous origin) which I can't, for the life of me, understand why it opens the song, the zombie children backup vocals, the "let's change Brian's 'My Solution' rant into it sounding like the voices in his head or something" vocal way in the back of the verse (what the f*** is that guy even saying?), the totally wretched saxophone honking in the verse, and then there's the whole "I'm happy and recovered now except not really" aspect of the lyrics.
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« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2012, 02:22:06 PM »

South American --> The Private Life Of Bill And Sue

I often wonder if Joe Thomas had more input into those two songs than Brian did.
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« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2012, 01:41:21 PM »

Trombone Dixie > Love To Say Da Da > Had To Phone Ya

As for Wonderful/GOK -- no. Easy mistake to make, but mistake none the less. Not at all the same thing.
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« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2012, 01:53:41 PM »

South American --> The Private Life Of Bill And Sue

I often wonder if Joe Thomas had more input into those two songs than Brian did.

We know that Bill & Sue is Brian's verse and Joe's chorus, if that's a help.
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« Reply #56 on: August 26, 2012, 12:23:07 PM »

Another one from Imagination (and hopefully, someone will read this post, not like my reference to "My solution")

The chord pattern from the "Your imagination" (those suspensions around the I chord) verses are lifted from the then-unreleased "Rainbow eyes"
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« Reply #57 on: August 26, 2012, 01:25:33 PM »

Surprising nobody's brought up "My Solution" to "Happy Days" yet. Where Brian borrowing the general feel of other folks' records is concerned....is it just me or does "Isn't It Time" bear a kinship to "What A Fool Believes" with which Brian has long had a love/fear relationship?

Speaking of "Happy Days," the opening piano riff was stolen from "Holidays."

I never noticed that! That's silly.
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« Reply #58 on: August 27, 2012, 02:12:14 AM »

Another one from Imagination (and hopefully, someone will read this post, not like my reference to "My solution")

The chord pattern from the "Your imagination" (those suspensions around the I chord) verses are lifted from the then-unreleased "Rainbow eyes"

To be fair, Your Imagination has the most cliched chord sequence known to man. I could say it's actually a rewrite of Forever's verse, y'know. Also, don't think Rainbow Eyes has the descending bassline?
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« Reply #59 on: August 27, 2012, 03:12:59 AM »

Not many people are reading other people's posts in this thread.  police

 LOL LOL LOL

my thoughts exactly, when I read the whole of it...
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« Reply #60 on: August 27, 2012, 01:05:07 PM »

Another one from Imagination (and hopefully, someone will read this post, not like my reference to "My solution")

The chord pattern from the "Your imagination" (those suspensions around the I chord) verses are lifted from the then-unreleased "Rainbow eyes"

To be fair, Your Imagination has the most cliched chord sequence known to man. I could say it's actually a rewrite of Forever's verse, y'know. Also, don't think Rainbow Eyes has the descending bassline?

You are talking about the whole chord sequence, with the descending bassline, the same used on Forever and Love and Mercy (and Everyone's in love with you, amongs hundreds of them). Actually, I was thinking about how he plays with the first chord of the verses, which is also the key chord.
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« Reply #61 on: August 28, 2012, 04:38:43 AM »

I have always heard the origin of Good Vibrations in Santas Beard...verses are similar then the chorus builds up the same way... Smokin
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