What Won't be released

[SurfRiderHawaii]

"I'm Going Your Way" aka:"California Slide" is a must on my list.

The boot version sounds like a quick mix.  With a better mix this would be
a great early Dennis rocker!

[punkinhead]

Awesome, as I said before, I'm not saying they wont come out, I just wanna see what folks think just might come out.

also, I know what I listed is booted, that's why I said those folks who have "rarities" (aka easy way around saying bootlegs).

[runnersdialzero]

"I'm Going Your Way" aka:"California Slide" is a must on my list.

The boot version sounds like a quick mix.  With a better mix this would be
a great early Dennis rocker!

That one feels so incomplete, though. 'twas disappointing when I first heard it. Like, "Holy sh*t, this sounds like it's gonna be really good!" and then it kind of tanks and wanders after just a short while.

[TimeToGetAlone]

I'd hope to see Won't You Tell Me on a release some day.  Is there any reason why it shouldn't be?

[EgoHanger1966]

I'd hope to see Won't You Tell Me on a release some day.  Is there any reason why it shouldn't be?

It's not really a Beach Boys track per-se. I've heard the one that is labeled as Brian and Carl on vocals but I just don't hear them - maybe it's labeled incorrectly.

[TimeToGetAlone]

That's definitely early 70's Brian on the shared lead.  Would be a shame to never be released because it's not regarded as a BB track, as I love that one.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

"I'm Going Your Way" aka:"California Slide" is a must on my list.

The boot version sounds like a quick mix.  With a better mix this would be
a great early Dennis rocker!

That one feels so incomplete, though. 'twas disappointing when I first heard it. Like, "Holy sh*t, this sounds like it's gonna be really good!" and then it kind of tanks and wanders after just a short while.

Yeah, I agree.  That's why it needs to be remixed.  Sounds like there's a lot of guitar mixed way down.  Proper mix - it be a 2 minute punchy rocker. In any event, a properly mixed version is high on my list.  Anything unreleased Dennis is what I really want.  Hearing more of his early stuff would be so revealing in his evolution as a songwriter.

[punkinhead]

"Michael Row The Boat Ashore" sounds to me like it could have been a "Pet Sounds" out-take.

Iʻd be putting it on the boxset if it were up to me.

really?

I kinda thought the backing vocals were kinda Smile like, but I thought I was going too far. 

[punkinhead]

I'd say that the original versions of 'Santa Ana Winds' and 'Looking Down the Coast' are definite contenders for the box set.

recently listened to the original Santa Ana Winds, I used to like this over the KTSA track, but I gotta say, I've been listening to the newer track that Bruce cut, and I think it's a lot better. The drums on the original just don't fit in most places, there's some cymbal crashes that I like, but overall, it doesn't work as well as the newer cut, it needed to be cut down to a more "acoustic-esc" sound, like the brushes on the drum, and I noticed some of the backing vocals with Carl and Brian on the original are that of the same on the KTSA cut.

[punkinhead]

Loop De Loop was released, in two different forms even. This forms the basis of my argument that anything might show up on the box.

That's very true. I remember in an interview that Brian did in the 80s, they asked him if they were gonna release it and he said no, that it wasn't really something he was into, or something of that nature.

[punkinhead]

I'd hope to see Won't You Tell Me on a release some day.  Is there any reason why it shouldn't be?

It's not really a Beach Boys track per-se. I've heard the one that is labeled as Brian and Carl on vocals but I just don't hear them - maybe it's labeled incorrectly.

Was that cut with Murry? It's a great vocal cut

[punkinhead]

"proper" mixes of a lot of the stuff we hear on boots would prolly have us in amazement! Some much is buried...Like when I first "Love's Coming Down on Me", the drum beat sounded very 80s-esc to me, but little did we know, when hearing it on the POB-re-release, there's a whole Spector-like arrangement to it!

[Jim V.]

Loop De Loop was released, in two different forms even. This forms the basis of my argument that anything might show up on the box.

That's very true. I remember in an interview that Brian did in the 80s, they asked him if they were gonna release it and he said no, that it wasn't really something he was into, or something of that nature.

I think he kinda said, "we wanna put out something that's good, ya know?", which I thought was funny. He must have really thought that song sucked.

[runnersdialzero]

I'd hope to see Won't You Tell Me on a release some day.  Is there any reason why it shouldn't be?

It's not really a Beach Boys track per-se. I've heard the one that is labeled as Brian and Carl on vocals but I just don't hear them - maybe it's labeled incorrectly.

Was that cut with Murry? It's a great vocal cut

I know the version without Brian and Carl is often mislabeled as having them on it.

You'll know it's the Brian/Carl mix by their vocals not being in sync with each other at all. Hopefully there's a doubled Brian vocal and/or a doubled Carl vocal on the multitrack, because having both their voices on it is a bit of a mess.

"Won't You Tell Me" was already released (without Brian and Carl's vocal) on a Sunrays comp, I believe, thus I don't know how likely it'd be for this. But then the Redwood "Time To Get Alone" eventually saw release, so you never know.

[punkinhead]

I'd hope to see Won't You Tell Me on a release some day.  Is there any reason why it shouldn't be?

It's not really a Beach Boys track per-se. I've heard the one that is labeled as Brian and Carl on vocals but I just don't hear them - maybe it's labeled incorrectly.

Was that cut with Murry? It's a great vocal cut

I know the version without Brian and Carl is often mislabeled as having them on it.

You'll know it's the Brian/Carl mix by their vocals not being in sync with each other at all. Hopefully there's a doubled Brian vocal and/or a doubled Carl vocal on the multitrack, because having both their voices on it is a bit of a mess.

"Won't You Tell Me" was already released (without Brian and Carl's vocal) on a Sunrays comp, I believe, thus I don't know how likely it'd be for this. But then the Redwood "Time To Get Alone" eventually saw release, so you never know.

good call!

[SG7]

The Easter album.

[runnersdialzero]

The Easter album.

Featuring "The Ballad Of The Poor Fat Bunny"

[Banana]

While most of this has already been booted...I would LOVE to see some of it come out legit...perhaps in better audio quality. 

[runnersdialzero]

While most of this has already been booted...I would LOVE to see some of it come out legit...perhaps in better audio quality. 

Yerp. Some folks always complain about "no new songs" when it comes to rarities compilations, but to hear some of this stuff in pristine quality versus the 4398th generation cassette transfers of rough mixes is always something that should be appreciated.

[Jim V.]

I'd say it's very unlikely we hear the 1978 version of "California Feelin'" with Brian on lead vocals. I'm cautiously optimistic we'll get the 1974 version and the 1978 version with Carl on vocals though. I also highly doubt "Brian's Tune" aka "the dirty version of 'Ding Dang'" will be on there. "Marilyn Rovell", despite being a catchy little tune, will also probably not make it, as I can't see Melinda being okay with releasing an ode to Brian's ex.

Also, despite the fact that many people on here wanna hear it, I feel it's super unlikely that we'll see "Lucy Jones" on there. Apparently most of the vocals are by Steve Kalinich, so that would be kinda odd to have it on the set. Same thing with "Silly Walls". To me, it seems more like a "David Sandler featuring Brian Wilson" type thing and therefore kinda takes it out of the running.

What I do think would be interesting would be a medley type thing showing all the things Brian worked on in the '70s and early '80s with the "Shortenin' Bread" riff. Throw in "Clang", "Clangin'", "Brian's Jam" (listed on AGD's site), the version with Brian on the chorus, the L.A. (Light Album) version, and that other version from like 1981ish(?). It would just be kinda interesting.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

"Michael Row The Boat Ashore" sounds to me like it could have been a "Pet Sounds" out-take.

Iʻd be putting it on the boxset if it were up to me.

really?

I kinda thought the backing vocals were kinda Smile like, but I thought I was going too far.  

"Pet Sounding" to my ears.  "Michael.." is a civil war era spiritual done folkie style, kinda in the Sloop John B vein.

In any event, it sounds pretty good.  Guess it just didn't fit into any projects of the time.

[pixletwin]

I'd say it's very unlikely we hear the 1978 version of "California Feelin'" with Brian on lead vocals. I'm cautiously optimistic we'll get the 1974 version and the 1978 version with Carl on vocals though.

Surely you mean the 1974 version with Brian's vocals. I was unaware there was a 1978 version with Brian.

[runnersdialzero]

I'd say it's very unlikely we hear the 1978 version of "California Feelin'" with Brian on lead vocals. I'm cautiously optimistic we'll get the 1974 version and the 1978 version with Carl on vocals though.

Surely you mean the 1974 version with Brian's vocals. I was unaware there was a 1978 version with Brian.

Apparently, this is the version referenced where Brian sings "It was such a beautiful day" and then quickly ad-libs "Like most days!" and is said to be dicking around and not giving an honest effort throughout.

The Carl vocal one suffers way too heavily from... well, Carl's brief strung-out-on-heroin-or-drunk-as-f***? style present on some Love You tracks, the Rocky Pamplin vocal is a fucking joke (why did this even happen?) and will never be released, the '74 Brian demo apparently suffers from Brian (again) doin' teh dickery and singing like a lounge singer near the end, the Classics solo version is painfully lacking, and the '78 version with Brian doing vocals suffer from ^^^^

Shame. I can see why Brian felt really iffy on the song, it does have liberal amounts of teh cheese, but it's really nice and it's a shame no decent version really exists, given what we've heard and descriptions we've been given.

[pixletwin]

Historically the 74 version is important and that is the chief reason I would like to hear it released.

[SurfRiderHawaii]

While most of this has already been booted...I would LOVE to see some of it come out legit...perhaps in better audio quality. 

Yerp. Some folks always complain about "no new songs" when it comes to rarities compilations, but to hear some of this stuff in pristine quality versus the 4398th generation cassette transfers of rough mixes is always something that should be appreciated.

Exactly!