Mike Says

[Shady]

I think what Mike means by "expensive" is more to do with the fact he sees a lot of money being wasted..

He probably doesn't see the need for all the musicians and the massive platform and the screen...

Basically he's making a lot of money from the tour but he could be making more

[SloopJohnnyB]

I'm sorry, but that is not what he said. He was referring to the cost of the tour and the stress of such a big production  being the "ONLY" drawback to the reunion. Give the guy a break. To me, I read this as being a reassurance to fans after the news yesterday regarding the south american show that there is a very good possibility they'll do the same thing next year: a tour and an album. What more could we want? It seems you took this article in a negative way. I took it the completely opposite way. I wish the south american show hadn't been announced, but after reading the billboard piece, I'm as excited as ever about what the future of the Beach Boys (although if it all ends with the 50th, at least we go that).

Sure Timmy, whatever you say  

Please make the LIVE CD a double or triple CD with 50 tracks. Please don't cut corners. This tour is too good for that.

A Box Set? I think Capital can do that without a new BB deal. That stuff is already in the vaults.

Man, I've got to go back and check the Capitol vaults again; I couldn't find WIBNTLA there  the last time through

I'm still hoping for a Mike Love and Celebration set. No joke.  

I still want the band to stay together.

[AndrewHickey]

I think what Mike means by "expensive" is more to do with the fact he sees a lot of money being wasted..

He probably doesn't see the need for all the musicians and the massive platform and the screen...

Basically he's making a lot of money from the tour but he could be making more

He doesn't even say anything about money being wasted. He just says that the only drawback is that the scale of the tour means they can't play smaller venues -- which is true. But he also says that "concert promoters are also pushing for more of the reunion lineup."

It doesn't come across as at all negative to me, just "this kind of tour costs money, which means you can't play the small places I sometimes like playing". I don't see why anyone would think that was a bad thing for him to be saying.

[bgas]

I think what Mike means by "expensive" is more to do with the fact he sees a lot of money being wasted..

He probably doesn't see the need for all the musicians and the massive platform and the screen...

Basically he's making a lot of money from the tour but he could be making more

He doesn't even say anything about money being wasted. He just says that the only drawback is that the scale of the tour means they can't play smaller venues -- which is true. But he also says that "concert promoters are also pushing for more of the reunion lineup."

It doesn't come across as at all negative to me, just "this kind of tour costs money, which means you can't play the small places I sometimes like playing". I don't see why anyone would think that was a bad thing for him to be saying.

You're just another Mikeista, aren't you?

[EgoHanger1966]

I think what Mike means by "expensive" is more to do with the fact he sees a lot of money being wasted..

He probably doesn't see the need for all the musicians and the massive platform and the screen...

Basically he's making a lot of money from the tour but he could be making more

He doesn't even say anything about money being wasted. He just says that the only drawback is that the scale of the tour means they can't play smaller venues -- which is true. But he also says that "concert promoters are also pushing for more of the reunion lineup."

It doesn't come across as at all negative to me, just "this kind of tour costs money, which means you can't play the small places I sometimes like playing". I don't see why anyone would think that was a bad thing for him to be saying.

Of course they can. They played a 2200 seat event center in May.....

[Mikie]

I think what Mike means by "expensive" is more to do with the fact he sees a lot of money being wasted..

He probably doesn't see the need for all the musicians and the massive platform and the screen...

Basically he's making a lot of money from the tour but he could be making more

Screw the money.  Think about the fans and what they want this time around, Mike.  You got more than enough money already.

[Jim V.]

Jeez, I know I shouldn't worry, but hopefully Mike just didn't mention the box set because he's not a "deep cuts" kinda guy, much less a rarities fan. He was pushing the things that will probably make more money (i.e. "hits" album and live album) because that's what he does.

As long as we get the box set and a new studio album, I'm golden. The greatest hits will be nice if there is indeed new tracks, and the live album, well, maybe I'll get it if the tracklisting is enticing enough.

[KittyKat]

bgas posted a total lie about Mike wanting to tour in a station wagon with Bruce.   I don't see anything about that anywhere in that article.  So much for bgas Beach Boys knowledge not to mention his biases. Go post on the Blueboard.

[Doo Dah]

The greatest hits will be nice if there is indeed new tracks, and the live album, well, maybe I'll get it if the tracklisting is enticing enough.

You know there'll be some freshly baited hooks in there (aka new tracks) to lure us old fogeys who already have 3-4 different compilations already. Box set okay, greatest hits cd - ah, no.

Besides, greatest hits releases are for housewives and johnny-come-lately's.

[AndrewHickey]

I think what Mike means by "expensive" is more to do with the fact he sees a lot of money being wasted..

He probably doesn't see the need for all the musicians and the massive platform and the screen...

Basically he's making a lot of money from the tour but he could be making more

He doesn't even say anything about money being wasted. He just says that the only drawback is that the scale of the tour means they can't play smaller venues -- which is true. But he also says that "concert promoters are also pushing for more of the reunion lineup."

It doesn't come across as at all negative to me, just "this kind of tour costs money, which means you can't play the small places I sometimes like playing". I don't see why anyone would think that was a bad thing for him to be saying.

You're just another Mikeista, aren't you?

Hardly. I have no time at all for Mike's music when not co-written with one or more Wilsons, and my fifty favourite Beach Boys songs probably wouldn't include a single Mike lead vocal. With the exception of Isn't It Time, I find all the songs he's written or co-written on the new album to be execrable. I think Looking Back With Love may well be the worst cultural product in the entire history of human civilisation. And I have no particular opinions of him as a person either way.

What I don't like is when people repeatedly choose to put the worst possible interpretations on anything he -- or anyone else for that matter -- says.

Things he *doesn't* say in that article:
He's not touring with the rest of the band after the reunion tour ends
He doesn't see the need for the expense of this tour
He'd rather be touring with his own band

Yet people in this thread have interpreted him as saying all those things.

I just think there are some people who are determined, no matter what Mike actually says or does, to see him in a hostile light. If he says "I'd like to play small venues, but it's impractical with a tour on this scale", he's being money-grubbing, but if he were to say "I love playing these huge venues" then he'd only be saying that because large audiences mean more money. If there's *nothing at all* he can say that wouldn't be interpreted badly, then there's something very wrong there.

[Justin]

http://www.pressandguide.com/articles/2012/06/27/life/doc4feafbb29edf1494390588.txt?viewmode=fullstory

Mike: “There’s a lot of ideas being floated around but nothing definitely in stone,” he says. “We’ll just have to see what the consensus is after finishing up this year of the reunion, and then we’ll take a look at what else we can do in the future. I know I’d be happy for it to continue.”

[Steve Mayo]

bgas posted a total lie about Mike wanting to tour in a station wagon with Bruce.   I don't see anything about that anywhere in that article.  So much for bgas Beach Boys knowledge not to mention his biases. Go post on the Blueboard.

it is clear  who knows their beach boys knowledge between the 2 of you. you even know his real name? and how many beach boy items that name is printed on? another reason to dislike cats.... 

[Autotune]

Well, we know there's a drawback for Brian also: having to be in front of crowds, being nervous, etc. Yet, just as his cousin, he's pulling through while this lasts. This is as much an act of greatness as these guys can come up with.

There's such a bright outlook for the future that I just can't understand the urge to downpoint Love for a remark in an interview not unlike Brian's or Al's. This is as big an act of generosity to us fans as they are capable of -while making some money- much more than we could dream of. Mike calls the shots on tour, and he's agreed to a fanboy's dream setlist as much as it is reasonable. He's put his stamp as executive producer on an album he did not write much on, that ends with a quasi deathbed letter (exagerating here, I know).

Let's give these guys a break. Especially Mike. Let us not wait for every tiny bit of minutia to jump on him like if it was 1999.

 It's our turn to grow mature now.

[absinthe_boy]

I actually think Mike has been pretty magnanimous and ceded a lot of control over this tour.

It's not what he's used to...the relatively complex stage setup and large number of musicians probably means it's not making much money. Not that cash is the be-all and end-all of everything but I don't think Mike has ever shied away from commercialism and that is not always a bad thing.

But please everybody, read the interview and not just selected quotes.

Mike is totally open to the possibility of a South American tour and maybe more dates with all 5 surviving Beach Boys. Mike is open to another studio album, and the most tantalising of all...Brian is not yet ready to share the full version of Summer's Gone with us. Maybe there's something really special yet to come from the Beach Boys.

And no....Mike says nothing about preferring to tour out of the back of a station wagon with Bruce. He just says this tour setup is bigger than he's used to, more costly and so on. He doesn't say he isn't enjoying it.

[Justin]

It must be a doubled edge sword for Mike.  Yes, this version of the band is a pain to shlep around the country but I hope he doesn't forget that with that size, comes all the hype and attention from the media.  Don't tell me he hasn't enjoyed how much the Beach Boys has been in the spotlight in the last few months?  He's always been huge on "keeping the Beach Boys brand out there" well...here it is.  Keep the whole team together and you've got it, man.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

To the powers that be....

The Live Album:  Please don't just give us the NPR show on CD.  Watch it with the autotune.  Don't just give us a duplicate audio companion to the DVD.

Leave in the flubs. We are all adults here and can handle it!

Yes, please. Don't try to 'fix' things in the studio...it sounds fine as is!

[Ziggy Stardust]

Probably another greatest hits without any Love You songs..

[EgoHanger1966]

Probably another greatest hits without any Love You songs..

Well, let's be real here, Love You songs don't belong on a greatest hits package.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Probably another greatest hits without any Love You songs..

Well, let's be real here, Love You songs don't belong on a greatest hits package.

Yeah i've kinda forgot that it has the name "Greatest Hits" before postin' that, so yeah.. i was just givin' echo to what i posted in the other thread talking about compilations that it's sad that there's never any Love You songs on any kind of compilations (but i could be wrong, please tell me if there is -edit- wait wasn't there some kind of Brothers compilation with like, one Love You song on it) while there's stuff like Wipe Out and Here Comes The Night on popular compilations like Sounds Of Summer.

[Chocolate Shake Man]

Another greatest hits package? Come on.

[LetHimRun]

I want a box set!!!

[guitarfool2002]

I admit to having a suspicion that this fall, in time for the holiday shopping season, someone in or around the Beach Boys camp has the idea of getting a greatest hits compilation of some kind on the retail racks to capitalize on the success of this tour. They're playing some songs live that may or may not have been offered on these most recent packages, perhaps they will try to get them on another hits album. Perhaps even more remixes/remasters, who knows. The Beach Boys are selling right now.

Think "Beach Boys" product over the past several decades *up to 2012* and would it be wrong to say the biggest sellers have been the compilations? Someone has to have that in mind with this tour going over so well. Capitol has to have that in mind - greatest hits packages are the cheapest to produce.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Probably another greatest hits without any Love You songs..

Well, let's be real here, Love You songs don't belong on a greatest hits package.

Yeah i've kinda forgot that it has the name "Greatest Hits" before postin' that, so yeah.. i was just givin' echo to what i posted in the other thread talking about compilations that it's sad that there's never any Love You songs on any kind of compilations (but i could be wrong, please tell me if there is -edit- wait wasn't there some kind of Brothers compilation with like, one Love You song on it) while there's stuff like Wipe Out and Here Comes The Night on popular compilations like Sounds Of Summer.

Greatest Hits Vol.3- Best of the Brother Years, featuring liner notes by Brad Elliot (shortly before he went underground to avoid paying people back money that he owed)

[Mikie]

bgas posted a total lie about Mike wanting to tour in a station wagon with Bruce.   I don't see anything about that anywhere in that article.  So much for bgas Beach Boys knowledge not to mention his biases. Go post on the Blueboard.

SCORCH!!!

[Ziggy Stardust]

Probably another greatest hits without any Love You songs..

Well, let's be real here, Love You songs don't belong on a greatest hits package.

Yeah i've kinda forgot that it has the name "Greatest Hits" before postin' that, so yeah.. i was just givin' echo to what i posted in the other thread talking about compilations that it's sad that there's never any Love You songs on any kind of compilations (but i could be wrong, please tell me if there is -edit- wait wasn't there some kind of Brothers compilation with like, one Love You song on it) while there's stuff like Wipe Out and Here Comes The Night on popular compilations like Sounds Of Summer.

Greatest Hits Vol.3- Best of the Brother Years, featuring liner notes by Brad Elliot (shortly before he went underground to avoid paying people back money that he owed)

Yeah thanks, that's what i thought, but then again, that's probably like, the only one? and it's just one song :/ oh well.