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« on: May 30, 2012, 12:17:29 AM »

Alright, somebody gimme some good Sequel songs.  The Sequel song is where a songwriter writes a big hit, usually a novelty song, then can't resist trying to have another big hit with a song that continues the story, or whatever.

I don't even know if anybody does this anymore, it may have been unique to the 50's/60's.  Anyways, two sets that come to mind are:

Marty Robbins - El Paso

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgI5DMVegIk&feature=related

Marty Robbins - El Paso City

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN0Jp7FV_cs

The first time I heard "El Paso City"... I couldn't believe how good it was.  He pulled it off!  It's so ridiculous to think that somebody could write a sequel to a song, but he did, made it completely different, made it interesting, and made it catchy.  I don't think I've ever heard a better 'sequel'.




Another set, though, that's awesome (but not really that great) would be Jimmy Dean's Big John

"Big Bad John"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myQ1UvJiv78

and then the sequel was called "The Cajun Queen"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23zRerieZxg

A lot of people have either never heard this song, or can't stand it because it ruins the first song.  Anyways.  I always thought this type of thing was fascinating.  



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« Reply #1 on: May 30, 2012, 09:57:43 AM »

I kinda like Squeeze's sequel to "Tempted", which is called "Loving You Tonight". It's nice, if a bit bland. But Paul C sings a good lead, and I suppose it's good middle-aged pop.

Not so big on their sequel to "Up the Junction". I can't even remember its title.

Macca has a kind-of sequel called "Return to Pepperland", which is good, if a bit slight...but unreleased.

Buddy Holly's "Peggy Sue Got Married" is at least as good as "Peggy Sue".
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« Reply #2 on: May 30, 2012, 10:00:02 AM »

I have a (Japanese bootleg) cd full of these. It has the original song, and then one (or more) answer song back to it.

This is one of my favorites - an answer song to The Lion Sleeps Tonight. It's REALLY suggestive for the early 60s.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j58bGEeVgfo

(edit: I'm referring to songs NOT written/recorded by the original artist. Not sure if you're only looking for answer songs by the original artist)
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« Reply #3 on: May 30, 2012, 11:15:26 AM »

Somehow I don't think it's answer songs our poster is looking for here.

But an example of that would be "Jukebox" by The Flirts, for "I Love Rock'n'Roll" by Joan Jett.
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« Reply #4 on: May 30, 2012, 11:00:06 PM »

3 hit songs with sequels that come to mind:
Lesley Gore- It's My Party- Judy's Turn To Cry
David Bowie- Space Oddity- Ashes To Ashes
Harry Chapin- Taxi- Sequel (clever title,huh?)
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« Reply #5 on: April 21, 2014, 10:47:53 PM »

Was listening to NRBQ today & when "Me & the Boys" started playing, I immediately thought of this thread. It doesn't sound like/isn't a sequel to Cyndi Lauper's "Girls Just Want to Have Fun", but it also tells about freedom & careless spirit of fun times together, only now the song centers around boys. The backing track is top-notch, I like the reverbs, the lead guitar &, of course, Terry's vocal. The coolest mo' is at around 1:39. (Btw, there is another common thing about Cyndi & NRBQ - both invited a famous wrestler Captain Lou Albano, former for her videoclip & the band hired him as their manager & even wrote a song about Lou. Very catchy.)

British band "Kaleidoscope" (don't mix with the US one of same name, which I also very like) recorded a song about fictional girl Jenny Artichoke after hearing Donovan's "Jennifer Juniper". Again, no musical similarity, it's odd compare the 2, but anyway, my choice is Kaleidoscope. It's such a fantastic song & I dig Peter Daltrey's voice. Those into Syd Barrett & young Mick Jagger would be pleased to hear this singer.

edit: Just read the allmusic article of "Me & the Boys" where the author cited "Fun, Fun, Fun" as another example of youthfulness in lyrics. Minor, but nice connection all the same.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2014, 02:09:45 AM »

This is a sequel with a difference. James "Shep" Sheppard co-wrote "A Thousand Miles From Home" for The Heartbeats in 1957:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQOdMs1BrrA

Four years later, fronting Shep & The Limelites, he scored a massive US hit with "Daddy's Home":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIGla91-qmk

The YouTube blurb is helpful...
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2014, 03:22:36 AM »

The Moody Blues - "Your Wildest Dreams ", sequel - "I Know You're Out There Somewhere".
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2014, 04:18:46 AM »

In 1961 Gary "U.S." Bonds scored a #5 hit with "School Is Out". He followed it up that same year with "School Is In", which only got as far as #28.      
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2014, 11:39:41 AM »

That time when Buddy Holly's flame got married.


... and all those twists Chubby Checker twisted.




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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2014, 11:47:36 AM »

I don't know if this would count as a sequel (probably not). Plus it's not by the same writer.

Johnny Cash wrote "Don't take your guns to town" in which a certain Billy Joe got shot. Charlie Rich wrote a song for Jerry Lee Lewis (the b-side to "Let's talk about us") called "The ballad of Billy Joe" that has the killer (no pun) of Billy Joe tell his side of the story.
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« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2014, 12:03:57 PM »

I don't know if this would count as a sequel (probably not). Plus it's not by the same writer.

Johnny Cash wrote "Don't take your guns to town" in which a certain Billy Joe got shot. Charlie Rich wrote a song for Jerry Lee Lewis (the b-side to "Let's talk about us") called "The ballad of Billy Joe" that has the killer (no pun) of Billy Joe tell his side of the story.
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« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2014, 02:30:24 PM »

"Shut Down" > "Shut Down, Part II"
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« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2014, 03:39:08 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2014, 10:29:51 PM »

This is a sequel with a difference. James "Shep" Sheppard co-wrote "A Thousand Miles From Home" for The Heartbeats in 1957:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQOdMs1BrrA

Four years later, fronting Shep & The Limelites, he scored a massive US hit with "Daddy's Home":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIGla91-qmk

The YouTube blurb is helpful...

Yeah!  I've heard these before.  At the end, the guy goes "I'm not a Thousand Miles Awaaayyyyy!"  Pretty great stuff.
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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2014, 10:39:07 PM »

Here's a couple pretty good ones since somebody bumped the thread. 

In 1952, Hank Thompson had a big hit called "The Wild Side of Life"... with the line

"I didn't know God made Honky Tonk Angels; I might've known you'd never make a wife"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4xgOAc3lZg


Hank's song came out... and spent FIFTEEN WEEKS at #1!

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So a couple months later, Kitty Wells released "It Wasn't God Who Made Honky Tonk Angels"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5Ikl-y_rZA


Her song became the first Billboard #1 for a female country singer, and ended up outselling the original massive hit by Hank Thompson. 




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« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2014, 10:49:36 PM »

... and all those twists Chubby Checker twisted.

Definately!  I always liked the dichotomy of "The Twist" and "Slow Twistin". 

"The Twist" was basically written, because the songwriters thought they'd make a fortune if they wrote a dance song where the kids didn't touch... beacuse their parents would support it and buy them the record. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbK0C9AYMd8

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So fast forward 2 years, and He and Dee Dee Sharp do "Slow Twistin"... which is basically about having sex.  WTF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCO4sRLzsGk

Dee Dee can't twist worth a damn.  Chubby twists so good they cut the camera so it doesn't show his hips, LOL!  AWESOME VIDEO

If you listen close at the end, the lyrics go "Cause the feelin' you gimme when you do the shimmy shimmy...."

Folks it doesn't get much better than that.
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« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2014, 11:00:23 PM »

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« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2014, 11:55:45 PM »

Four Tops, "I Can't Help Myself", and "It's the Same Old Song".
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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2014, 04:01:03 AM »

Speaking of Chubby Checker and the Twist.... would this be a sequel to the Beach Boys' "Wipe out" ?
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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2014, 06:41:09 AM »

  Chuck Berry

 "Johnny B Goode" then "Bye Bye Johnny"     "Memphis TN" then "Little Marie"     "Tulane" then "Have Mercy Judge"
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« Reply #21 on: April 27, 2014, 09:59:18 AM »

Shirley Ellis's "The Nitty Gritty" was then footnoted with the follow-up "That's What The Nitty Gritty Is"

The reaction to Jeffrey Lewis's "The Last Time I Took Acid I Went Insane" (people offering him acid) prompted a sequel song "No LSD Tonight"

"Louise" by the Human League is apparently a sequel to their "Don't You Want Me", set four years later.
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« Reply #22 on: April 27, 2014, 02:04:55 PM »

Little Junior Parker's "Feel so bad" probably define's a sequel song pretty good, too. The original being his "Feelin' good".
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« Reply #23 on: April 27, 2014, 02:28:44 PM »

How about The Bobbettes 'Mr. Lee' and 'I Shot Mr. Lee'?
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« Reply #24 on: April 27, 2014, 03:16:56 PM »

I'm surprised none of us thought of the whole string of songs that Lesley Gore did. 

"It's My Party" - 1963

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsYJyVEUaC4

Lesley crying at her birthday party because her boyfriend Johnny slipped out the door with Judy.

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"Judy's Turn To Cry" - 1963


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvPO2gJU4aI

Johnny comes back.

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"Maybe I Know" - 1964

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ1gpwJbNpI

Johnny's cheating.  BTW this live video is fantastic.

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"You Don't Own Me" - 1964

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDUjeR01wnU

Lesley finally wises up, and wants to date other boys.  BTW another fantastic live performance.

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Maybe I Know came after You Don't Own Me, so this doesn't really make much sense. Also, I think the whole "Johnny" thing ended with "Judy's Turn To Cry". You could make the case otherwise, but most of her songs from those first two years deal with teenage romance, so they fit in that mold regardless of intent.
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