Beach Boys "Fun Fun Fun" at Dodger Stadium

[EgoHanger1966]

Maybe the audience mix was different - be interesting to see if any fan footage gets posted online.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Not to start this debate again, but I *really* don't too much care for Foskett's voice.

ahhh...see others beat me to it.

[stack-o-tracks]

Not to start this debate again, but I *really* don't too much care for Foskett's voice.

ahhh...see others beat me to it.

BUT WHO ELSE IS GONNA SING THAT NUTSINAVICE FALSETTOOOO?!

[Justin]

Thanks again GoodVibrations33...well done!

As others have said...I can barely make out any of the Beach Boys.  I hear 90% Foskett and the other harmonices that come in later may have been Scott or John but I wouldn't past them that it was all Foskett on a pre-recorded track.

[Shady]

Jeff has to read this board..

Man, I can imagine his face when he reads these threads 

[HeyJude]

Thanks for posting the YouTube clips. Nice to see. I think these TV productions, this or the grammys, are going very conservatively on the mix. I don't know if someone in the BB camp tells them to fall back on Foskett's mic or what. I don't think this is going to be as big of an issue on the tour. #1, I don't think they'll mix the tour this heavily on Foskett. #2, the majority of the BB songs are going to have leads with backing harmony rather than the majority of "Surfer Girl" and all of the anthem, which feature a harmony lead so to speak. So assuming Foskett doesn't do a bunch of leads, I don't think he'll feature any more heavily in the vocal blend on the tour than he does at a Brian show.

Let's face it. With this BB tour sporting something around 17 people in the band, we're going to be hearing a lot of "non Beach Boys" in the harmony blend. That's okay, as long as we can hear the BB's too.

As an aside, I'm 100% sure that Brian and the other four BB's could have done something much more elaborate in terms of harmony on the anthem in the studio. They sounded fine in this clip, but it's more singing in unison than harmony.

[Stegibo]

Jeff has to read this board..

Man, I can imagine his face when he reads these threads  

Well it's all legit, isn'it? We were expecting to hear the Beach Boys sing the anthem and all we get to hear is the actual background singers being the lead vocalists and pushing the Beach Boys voices aside.

[Justin]

If this whole tour is just gonna be the Jeff Foskett show, I'm staying home.

It's not looking is it?  With the Grammy's a few months ago and now this...it's a bit worrysome how a tour or new album will sound.  I'm still putting it on the TV mix.  These people don't know how to mix the Beach Boys...they merely put the strongest voice of the group upfront in the mix and buried everyone else in the background.  I'm hoping the sound at the shows are more fair.  

[Justin]

As an aside, I'm 100% sure that Brian and the other four BB's could have done something much more elaborate in terms of harmony on the anthem in the studio. They sounded fine in this clip, but it's more singing in unison than harmony.

Indeed...it's all unison until we get to "And the rockets red glare"...we have some harmony parts that start there and continue to the end of the song.  I honestly can't identify who that lower part is.  It honestly sounds like Jeff Foskett.  The fact that there were very little closeups of the guys singing it makes me believe that they were definitely singing to a track of Jeff doing most of the work.  Any voices from the BB were added live right there but low in the mix.

[Craig Boyd]

If this whole tour is just gonna be the Jeff Foskett show, I'm staying home.

It's not looking is it?  With the Grammy's a few months ago and now this...it's a bit worrysome how a tour or new album will sound.  I'm still putting it on the TV mix.  These people don't know how to mix the Beach Boys...they merely put the strongest voice of the group upfront in the mix and buried everyone else in the background.  I'm hoping the sound at the shows are more fair.  

As much as I dislike these tv mixes I think the tour will sound much closer to what was heard in the room at the Grammy's. Jeff obviously has to handle those falsetto parts but it's not like Al and Bruce are shabby midrange singers, they could have been a lot more prominent in that mix. Also as the guys sounded so good at the Grammy's inside the hall it begs the question as to why they need to be covering up all their voices on the tv feeds anyway?

[hypehat]

Disappointing mix, but no band is going to sound great in the middle of a field with fireworks, jets flying overhead, doves, a bunch of people with guns standing next to you, and absolutely ridiculous delayed echo mixed for television. Anyone who thinks this gig is going to be in any way indicative of the upcoming tour is actually insane.

I could hear a little Brian, no Mike & Bruce, and it seemed to me Al might have been doing a lot of the legwork with Jeff as well - his plummy tones were in evidence.

I'm tryna be Mr. Positivity over here, but I really think we'll miss Carl on this tour.

Also, to be British about this..... does this sort of thing happen at every single baseball game? The massive flags, the anthem, the speech about guys getting shot for your country.... with football, its just get on the pitch and go, is all.

[Stegibo]

Carl would have owned in singing the anthem...

[ivy]

I do not think this Foskett showcase is a sign of things to come on the tour and the album. I think we can forget that for much of the general public, the last thing they remember the Beach Boys sounding like is Good Vibrations. I imagine many people would be shocked to hear what Brian sounds like today and what the collective Beach Boys sound like in 2012 without Carl and Dennis.

Most people who attend the concerts and probably all who buy the album will know what to expect and will be happy to hear any authentic Beach Boys work. However, the general public who is watching the Grammys to see Chris Brown or watching the baseball game to see..... baseball.... they are a different story. And along with those two high profile gigs comes uneducated press coverage which could seriously damage their PR going into the 50th anniversary.

The Grammy and Dodgers performances were not for the real fans. I do not blame them whatsoever for featuring Foskett in the mix as they did.

Just really, really eager for the concerts now, though.

[filledeplage]

Here are all three video links:

Mike Love Interview:  http://youtu.be/-T6y8mWzQdY

Surfer Girl:  http://youtu.be/uaXFnM3aM4U

The Star-Spangled Banner:  http://youtu.be/KnSMXW91LHM

Once again, sorry for the quality of the videos - wanted to get them up quickly!

Thanks, ya done good!

Really moving ceremony; those young heroes in the crowd.

And our hero musicians.

[Shady]

Just really, really eager for the concerts now, though.

Me too...

Shame I'm not going to one 

[ivy]

Mike without hat , very much fair play

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lat-dod11_m2a9efpd20120410144400,0,2937352.photo

Really good stuff.

And what was Brian looking at the whole time? Foskett?

[jimmy1949]

Not to start this debate again, but I *really* don't too much care for Foskett's voice.

ahhh...see others beat me to it.

All you gentleman who don't care for Jeff Foskett should leave him alone..Brian likes him and maybe even needs him.Jeff at one time was just like us. A super-fan. He had the balls to go and knock on Brian's door. God bless him.I like his cd's too.

[Justin]

If this whole tour is just gonna be the Jeff Foskett show, I'm staying home.

It's not looking is it?  With the Grammy's a few months ago and now this...it's a bit worrysome how a tour or new album will sound.  I'm still putting it on the TV mix.  These people don't know how to mix the Beach Boys...they merely put the strongest voice of the group upfront in the mix and buried everyone else in the background.  I'm hoping the sound at the shows are more fair.  

As much as I dislike these tv mixes I think the tour will sound much closer to what was heard in the room at the Grammy's. Jeff obviously has to handle those falsetto parts but it's not like Al and Bruce are shabby midrange singers, they could have been a lot more prominent in that mix. Also as the guys sounded so good at the Grammy's inside the hall it begs the question as to why they need to be covering up all their voices on the tv feeds anyway?

You're right.  I'm just feeling slightly cheated on today's perfromances.  The sound guys at the network don't have a clue what they're doing when it comes to presenting a fair mix for 8 guys doing harmony.  I'm just so eager to hear what these guys sound like together again that I felt a little robbed today from what we got on that broadcast.  But anyway--it was really, really great to see them singing together.  

[Justin]

Mike without hat , very much fair play

http://www.latimes.com/sports/lat-dod11_m2a9efpd20120410144400,0,2937352.photo

Really good stuff.

And what was Brian looking at the whole time? Foskett?

Apparently.  Brian looked to him for assurance and as a guide throughout both songs

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

Not to start this debate again, but I *really* don't too much care for Foskett's voice.

ahhh...see others beat me to it.

BUT WHO ELSE IS GONNA SING THAT NUTSINAVICE FALSETTOOOO?!

I guess just don't have the falsetto!

We'd all forgive them for it. Lots of older guys adjust the keys, or simply don't hit the high notes, but as long as it's still THEM singing, it's all good usually.

[Rob Dean]

Not to start this debate again, but I *really* don't too much care for Foskett's voice.

ahhh...see others beat me to it.

All you gentleman who don't care for Jeff Foskett should leave him alone..Brian likes him and maybe even needs him.Jeff at one time was just like us. A super-fan. He had the balls to go and knock on Brian's door. God bless him.I like his cd's too.

I think you will find that Mike knocked on Jeffs door , so actually I think you will find that Jeff owes rather a lot to Mike for his career.

Additionally can I also add that I am a fan of Jeff   

[SBonilla]

Not to start this debate again, but I *really* don't too much care for Foskett's voice.

ahhh...see others beat me to it.

I don't care too much for the song.

[Craig Boyd]

Not to start this debate again, but I *really* don't too much care for Foskett's voice.

ahhh...see others beat me to it.

All you gentleman who don't care for Jeff Foskett should leave him alone..Brian likes him and maybe even needs him.Jeff at one time was just like us. A super-fan. He had the balls to go and knock on Brian's door. God bless him.I like his cd's too.

Is there not a story though where Jeff actually knocked on Brian's actual door?  I'm sure I read that somewhere, it was before he got the BB's gig in the 80's, mid 70's or something.


I think you will find that Mike knocked on Jeffs door , so actually I think you will find that Jeff owes rather a lot to Mike for his career

[HeyJude]

My recollection is that Foskett started in Mike's band doing the small number of shows to promote "Looking Back with Love" in 1981, and then later in 1981 Foskett joined the touring BB's (I would presume at the invite of Mike, but I dunno), who were still struggling with being Carl-less. I even recall hearing reports of shows in late 1981 of Foskett singing leads on a few Carl songs that had been dropped from the tour when Carl left, such as "I Can Hear Music" and "Darlin'." Then of course, he ended up in the band until 1990.

[Wirestone]

I do not think this Foskett showcase is a sign of things to come on the tour and the album. I think we can forget that for much of the general public, the last thing they remember the Beach Boys sounding like is Good Vibrations. I imagine many people would be shocked to hear what Brian sounds like today and what the collective Beach Boys sound like in 2012 without Carl and Dennis.

Most people who attend the concerts and probably all who buy the album will know what to expect and will be happy to hear any authentic Beach Boys work. However, the general public who is watching the Grammys to see Chris Brown or watching the baseball game to see..... baseball.... they are a different story. And along with those two high profile gigs comes uneducated press coverage which could seriously damage their PR going into the 50th anniversary.

The Grammy and Dodgers performances were not for the real fans. I do not blame them whatsoever for featuring Foskett in the mix as they did.

Just really, really eager for the concerts now, though.

 I don't want to burst your bubble, but I expect the concerts to be every bit as airbrushed as these admittedly poorly mixed tv appearances. Don't forget, most people buying tickets for the reunion shows won't know much about the band's history either. They will wants to hear the classic blend -- yes, with falsetto. If anything, the live shows will sound less like the Beach Boys, because you will have an extra 10 voices on stage.

 The one aspect of the reunion that I expect to sound at all classic will be the record. All of the guys have sounded good on their recent cds.