New album info (as it rolls out...)

[Wirestone]

I'm in the camp that would rather see new material than reworks of unreleased songs, or even marginally released songs.  I don't understand why anybody would want to hear a (by most accounts) mediocre song reworked or rewritten because it has 'potential'.  Just write something new (which it appears they have! I win). 

I'd rather the album contain at least a few good songs that I'm already familiar with either from bootlegs or unreleased recordings than have to worry about them padding out the record with some newly-written, over-nostalgic tripe just to meet the quota of a 12-13 track album.

Sounds like a grand total of one track (Daybreak) has circulated. If AGD isn't familiar with any of the others, that's about as definitive as it gets. And I agree with you, but it sounds like the decision has been made.

[HeyJude]

I'd rather the album contain at least a few good songs that I'm already familiar with either from bootlegs or unreleased recordings than have to worry about them padding out the record with some newly-written, over-nostalgic tripe just to meet the quota of a 12-13 track album.

I can see how the band would feel a bit of the "damned if you do, damned if you don't" here. Most fans have seemed to criticize them for continually mining old compositions and recordings for "new" albums. What's worse, they often pick seemingly weak material (e.g. "When Girls Get Together").

At this point, I'm all for new material we haven't heard. I love tracks like "You're Still a Mystery", but at this point even a track like that is an approximately 17-year-old recording. Stick that stuff on a "rarities" archival collection at this point.

[HeyJude]

Sounds like a grand total of one track (Daybreak) has circulated. If AGD isn't familiar with any of the others, that's about as definitive as it gets. And I agree with you, but it sounds like the decision has been made.

We have indications that while we haven't *heard* much on this album before, at least some of it comes from the 1998 Joe Thomas era. If it's new to me and it's good, then I don't care when it was written. But it brings up an interesting question. Would anyone have a problem if, say, half the album (or more) was written in 1998 and maybe even some of the backing tracks came from that era?

[Ron]

Yeah Hey Jude! Some others have mentioned that we have no idea what the 'vault' releases are going to be to coincide with this anniversary, they may have all kinds of unreleased stuff planned to come out, so they can't include it on the new album since it'll be on the boxset or re-releases or whatever they have planned.  

[Andrew G. Doe]

Sounds like a grand total of one track (Daybreak) has circulated. If AGD isn't familiar with any of the others, that's about as definitive as it gets. And I agree with you, but it sounds like the decision has been made.

We have indications that while we haven't *heard* much on this album before, at least some of it comes from the 1998 Joe Thomas era. If it's new to me and it's good, then I don't care when it was written. But it brings up an interesting question. Would anyone have a problem if, say, half the album (or more) was written in 1998 and maybe even some of the backing tracks came from that era?

I would have no problem if it was revealed that Brian wrote three-quarters of it under a tree in San Diego in 1978. 

[I. Spaceman]

Sounds like a grand total of one track (Daybreak) has circulated. If AGD isn't familiar with any of the others, that's about as definitive as it gets. And I agree with you, but it sounds like the decision has been made.

We have indications that while we haven't *heard* much on this album before, at least some of it comes from the 1998 Joe Thomas era. If it's new to me and it's good, then I don't care when it was written. But it brings up an interesting question. Would anyone have a problem if, say, half the album (or more) was written in 1998 and maybe even some of the backing tracks came from that era?

I would have no problem if it was revealed that Brian wrote three-quarters of it under a tree in San Diego in 1978. 

I was just informed that, in fact, The Private Life Of Bill And Sue was originally entitled Under A Tree In San Diego.

[Wirestone]

Would anyone have a problem if, say, half the album (or more) was written in 1998 and maybe even some of the backing tracks came from that era?

To the first question, no. I expect that's actually the case.

To the second question, I doubt that happened. Brian was recording tracks throughout last year.

[Ziggy Stardust]

Sounds like a grand total of one track (Daybreak) has circulated. If AGD isn't familiar with any of the others, that's about as definitive as it gets. And I agree with you, but it sounds like the decision has been made.

We have indications that while we haven't *heard* much on this album before, at least some of it comes from the 1998 Joe Thomas era. If it's new to me and it's good, then I don't care when it was written. But it brings up an interesting question. Would anyone have a problem if, say, half the album (or more) was written in 1998 and maybe even some of the backing tracks came from that era?

I would have no problem if it was revealed that Brian wrote three-quarters of it under a tree in San Diego in 1978. 

I was just informed that, in fact, The Private Life Of Bill And Sue was originally entitled Under A Tree In San Diego.

Aw man, why didn't he kept that title ! (i'm from SD)

[Summertime Blooz]

I was just informed that, in fact, The Private Life Of Bill And Sue was originally entitled Under A Tree In San Diego.

Yup- it was originally planned to be a track on the unreleased album 'Remember The San Diego Zoo'.

[Micha]

A whole different question: Does anyone know if the LP mastering will be the same in the US as in Europe? SMiLE 2004 EU didn't sound that well, while TSS sounded great. Do I have to get a US pressing?

[catman]

Whatever happened to Frankie Avalon,the original version to Everything I Need and It's Over? Any of these would be really awesome to see...but I dont have my hopes up...

[Wirestone]

Whatever happened to Frankie Avalon,the original version to Everything I Need and It's Over? Any of these would be really awesome to see...but I dont have my hopes up...

Well, Frankie Avalon is a rough demo from the Paley sessions. There are at least a couple of dozen other such songs. It doesn't look like any of them are on the new record.

Everything I Need was released on the Wilsons record in 1997. Jeff Foskett released a version with Brian that restored some of the original arrangement. Given that two versions are out, I'm not sure why anyone would want to release the song again.

And I'm not familiar with a Beach Boys song called "It's Over." There's one called "It's Over Now," which was released on the 1993 boxed set. Again, given that the song has been released, I'm not sure why it would be on the new album.

[catman]

Whatever happened to Frankie Avalon,the original version to Everything I Need and It's Over? Any of these would be really awesome to see...but I dont have my hopes up...

Well, Frankie Avalon is a rough demo from the Paley sessions. There are at least a couple of dozen other such songs. It doesn't look like any of them are on the new record.

Everything I Need was released on the Wilsons record in 1997. Jeff Foskett released a version with Brian that restored some of the original arrangement. Given that two versions are out, I'm not sure why anyone would want to release the song again.

And I'm not familiar with a Beach Boys song called "It's Over." There's one called "It's Over Now," which was released on the 1993 boxed set. Again, given that the song has been released, I'm not sure why it would be on the new album.

Thanks man. Been out of the bw loop for a little while. Was not awre of the 97 version of EIN. Neat version. Something about the rough version of the other demo i like...this one is great. found it on youtube. Really refined. Great stuff.

Yes, "Its over now" is what i meant. Wow what a song...i get your point on all of these. I guess I just felt like these songs never got there debut as beach boys material. IOV from 93 box is the carl wilson version correct? Call me crazy but I like the song better being banged out on piano like on the demos...

sorry...this thread isn't for my opinion on such matters...back to topic
Can someone summarize where things are at now with this album? Whats the release date?...

[Wirestone]

Whatever happened to Frankie Avalon,the original version to Everything I Need and It's Over? Any of these would be really awesome to see...but I dont have my hopes up...

Well, Frankie Avalon is a rough demo from the Paley sessions. There are at least a couple of dozen other such songs. It doesn't look like any of them are on the new record.

Everything I Need was released on the Wilsons record in 1997. Jeff Foskett released a version with Brian that restored some of the original arrangement. Given that two versions are out, I'm not sure why anyone would want to release the song again.

And I'm not familiar with a Beach Boys song called "It's Over." There's one called "It's Over Now," which was released on the 1993 boxed set. Again, given that the song has been released, I'm not sure why it would be on the new album.

Thanks man. Been out of the bw loop for a little while. Was not awre of the 97 version of EIN. Neat version. Something about the rough version of the other demo i like...this one is great. found it on youtube. Really refined. Great stuff.

Yes, "Its over now" is what i meant. Wow what a song...i get your point on all of these. I guess I just felt like these songs never got there debut as beach boys material. IOV from 93 box is the carl wilson version correct? Call me crazy but I like the song better being banged out on piano like on the demos...

sorry...this thread isn't for my opinion on such matters...back to topic
Can someone summarize where things are at now with this album? Whats the release date?...

No problem! (97 version of EiN here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lsx7YrCqU0. Foskett version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPXleBlUjSM).

Album comes out June 5. All new Brian Wilson songs (seemingly) except for a Mike Love tune originally written in 1978. About 38 minutes long. (http://www.amazon.com/Thats-Why-God-Made-Radio/dp/B007U1FEJE/ref=ntt_mus_ep_dpi_1) Has a closing suite that people who have heard advance copies are raving about.
 

[Matt H]

Looks like a bonus track in Japan:

Copy/paste from translated HMV Japan page:

Songs

1
Think About The Days

2
The God made the radio - God it does to make, the radio

3
Isn't It Time

4
Spring Vacation

5
The Private Life Of Bill And Sue

6
Shelter

7
Daybreak Over The Ocean

8
Beaches In Mind

9
Strange World

10
From There To Back Again

11
Pacific Coast Highway

12
Summer's Gone

13
Revival (2012 [vuajiyon]) of love (bonus track/truck)

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hmv.co.jp%2Fen%2Fproduct%2Fdetail%2F5045005&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

[pixletwin]

Revival of Love? Could this be another Mike penned song? 

[Autotune]

Looks like a bonus track in Japan:

Copy/paste from translated HMV Japan page:

Songs

1
Think About The Days

2
The God made the radio - God it does to make, the radio

3
Isn't It Time

4
Spring Vacation

5
The Private Life Of Bill And Sue

6
Shelter

7
Daybreak Over The Ocean

8
Beaches In Mind

9
Strange World

10
From There To Back Again

11
Pacific Coast Highway

12
Summer's Gone

13
Revival (2012 [vuajiyon]) of love (bonus track/truck)

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=bf-home&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hmv.co.jp%2Fen%2Fproduct%2Fdetail%2F5045005&lp=ja_en&btnTrUrl=Translate

Meh. Sounds like a remake of Summer of Love with Mike's dreadful lyrics. I hate it already.











 

[Mendota Heights]

Revival of Love? Could this be another Mike penned song? 

Can it be Waves of Love?

[SBonilla]

Doea "(2012 [vuajiyon]) " mean '2012 version?'

[Aegir]

that's Do It Again.

[Rob Dean]

Question for those who have heard the new cd.... are all the songs 100% original (brand new) expect "daybreak" or have any of the songs/sections of songs evolved from demos that we have heard before Aka:save the day/fairytale, Christine/Living doll..etc?

Couldn't say, as I have heard no such CD.  

Pedantry man, pedantry.

Question for those who've heard the advance review stream: are all the songs 100% original (brand new) expect "daybreak" or have any of the songs/sections of songs evolved from demos that we have heard before Aka: Save The Day/Fairytale, Christine/Living Doll..etc?

My impression is, nothing recycled from previously circulating material.

That's quite an achievement for these guys. I wouldn't be surprised if Brian's had some of the melodies in his portfolio for a while, that' the nature of the guy, but for there to be nothing from PCM (previously circulating material) is gosh-darn cool.

OK, hold that thought - I'm 97.423% that "Daybreak" uses at least part of the Mike Love Not War recording: some of the bvs are identical, especially the ones that sound a lot like Christian.

I kinda figured they'd build on that anyway. The harmony sound on that was incredible, sounded just like the BB's.

I really do like Daybreak from 'Unleash The Love/Mike Love Not War' - Very mellow distant relative of 'Kokomo' with Acoustic Guitars and Steel Drums.
Superb 12 second accapella intro 'Bring Back , My Baby' , nice chorus 'As Daybreaks Over The Ocean , Moonlight Still On The Sea , Where The Waves Gentle Motion , Bring My Babe My Baby Back To Me'

Would be interesting to see how much work they have actually done to the original 2003 recording.  

[MaxL]

that's Do It Again.

Yeah it's Do It Again, did some rough translating and got "Do again". Glad to see it's surfaced somewhere else other than the Zinepak, even if it's Japan exclusive. Also on amazon.jp

[Craig Boyd]

Question for those who have heard the new cd.... are all the songs 100% original (brand new) expect "daybreak" or have any of the songs/sections of songs evolved from demos that we have heard before Aka:save the day/fairytale, Christine/Living doll..etc?

Couldn't say, as I have heard no such CD.  

Pedantry man, pedantry.

Question for those who've heard the advance review stream: are all the songs 100% original (brand new) expect "daybreak" or have any of the songs/sections of songs evolved from demos that we have heard before Aka: Save The Day/Fairytale, Christine/Living Doll..etc?

My impression is, nothing recycled from previously circulating material.

That's quite an achievement for these guys. I wouldn't be surprised if Brian's had some of the melodies in his portfolio for a while, that' the nature of the guy, but for there to be nothing from PCM (previously circulating material) is gosh-darn cool.

OK, hold that thought - I'm 97.423% that "Daybreak" uses at least part of the Mike Love Not War recording: some of the bvs are identical, especially the ones that sound a lot like Christian.

I kinda figured they'd build on that anyway. The harmony sound on that was incredible, sounded just like the BB's.

I really do like Daybreak from 'Unleash The Love/Mike Love Not War' - Very mellow distant relative of 'Kokomo' with Acoustic Guitars and Steel Drums.
Superb 12 second accapella intro 'Bring Back , My Baby' , nice chorus 'As Daybreaks Over The Ocean , Moonlight Still On The Sea , Where The Waves Gentle Motion , Bring My Babe My Baby Back To Me'

Would be interesting to see how much work they have actually done to the original 2003 recording.  

Was just discussing Daybreak with a couple of posters via email. I think if the end of the album is supposed to be where the heavy stuff is at then it makes sense to have something light before that. I hope AGD's right when he says Christian's vocals are still in there, hopefully there's a cool bridge been added to it aswell.

[southbay]

good discussion of the  new album's lead and bgv's over at the Record Room board today, last page of the Mike Love interview thread.  Who sings what, etc.

[Ziggy Stardust]

And it's here :
http://s3.excoboard.com/therecordroom/54492/907180/5