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« Reply #1150 on: August 15, 2012, 10:20:47 AM »

We shouldn't forget to thank Wil. C for putting this excellent presentation together for us!

COMMENT:  I'll second that Pixletwin ! 

I found Will C. through his postings on Smileysmile.net. We exchanged emails and then phone calls. I sensed a high degree of character and ability in him, so sight unseen we both entered into a gentleman's agreement to work together on this project. I am an analog engineer and needed someone with digital and Internet expertise and experience. Will C. Music Productions has met every request I've made, and more. Will C. has never said 'no' to any technical request, always found a way around problems, and been a joy to work with. We live 1500 miles apart and have never met. Yet through the miracle of the Internet we have been able to bring you, our fellow Beach Boy fans, something of interest and value. Amazing times we live in !! 

So I'll add my thank you's to Will for all his time, creative input and hard work. 

Good Listening,  ~Stephen W. Desper
 
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« Reply #1151 on: August 15, 2012, 11:51:21 AM »

It'll be a week until I am on my computer again on which I'll be able to see it but if it is as good as it sounds/reads then it'll be heaven for me so to speak. I'm an amateur in those kind of things and don't have too much knowledge. I use analog equipement (because I never in my life had a computer with enough power) so I'm sure it'll give me not only a look into pro work but probably also some tipps I could use for my own stuff.
Thanks to Stephen and Will C. !

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« Reply #1152 on: August 15, 2012, 12:24:38 PM »

It'll be a week until I am on my computer again on which I'll be able to see it but if it is as good as it sounds/reads then it'll be heaven for me so to speak. I'm an amateur in those kind of things and don't have too much knowledge. I use analog equipement (because I never in my life had a computer with enough power) so I'm sure it'll give me not only a look into pro work but probably also some tipps I could use for my own stuff.
Thanks to Stephen and Will C. !


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I have been to Hannover, Germany with The Beach Boys giving well-received concerts. That was before AWD Hall was built. Lovely city on the river.   Best,
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« Reply #1153 on: August 15, 2012, 09:00:40 PM »

Could you explain a little how exactly the stereo field was so enhanced? Technically I mean.
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« Reply #1154 on: August 16, 2012, 04:12:15 AM »

Could you explain a little how exactly the stereo field was so enhanced? Technically I mean.
COMMENT:  Which song?   ~swd
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« Reply #1155 on: August 16, 2012, 08:04:17 AM »

Just ....thank you, thank you, thank you, gentlemen.
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« Reply #1156 on: August 16, 2012, 09:51:51 AM »

that was very enjoyable. thanks to both for doing this. what a treat.  Thumbs Up
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« Reply #1157 on: August 16, 2012, 09:57:24 AM »

I have what could be an odd or mundane question: Given the eccentricities of The Beach Boys, -- especially during the time period during which you worked with them -- can you recall what some of the weirdest moments you've witnessed were?
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« Reply #1158 on: August 16, 2012, 10:32:13 AM »

It'll be a week until I am on my computer again on which I'll be able to see it but if it is as good as it sounds/reads then it'll be heaven for me so to speak. I'm an amateur in those kind of things and don't have too much knowledge. I use analog equipement (because I never in my life had a computer with enough power) so I'm sure it'll give me not only a look into pro work but probably also some tipps I could use for my own stuff.
Thanks to Stephen and Will C. !


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I have been to Hannover, Germany with The Beach Boys giving well-received concerts. That was before AWD Hall was built. Lovely city on the river.   Best,
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My father once told me a story that he was with a friend of his who happened to be a Beach Boys-fan and that they met (or probably just seen) one of the boys in Hannover in around '68/'69 I believe. My father was never into the BBs and 60s stuff. He had nothing against them but he was more of a country/Rock'n'Roll fan (I got that from him probably) so he didn't remember which Beach Boy it was. I showed him a picture once and he pointed at Bruce and said it might've been him but that was at least 30 years after it happened so....
 
In 2004 Brian played Smile in Frankfurt and I went there with a friend of mine and my father.

I'm glad the boys were well received then. I think they played from time to time here over the years. Never had a chance to see them though until this year in Berlin.

Anyway, if you'll ever be here again, drop me a line and we'll have a beer or two
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« Reply #1159 on: August 17, 2012, 01:50:45 AM »

Could you explain a little how exactly the stereo field was so enhanced? Technically I mean.
COMMENT:  Which song?   ~swd

On Cool Cool Water, I mean, how is the size or shape of a normal stereo field determined/defined? And how was it that you're able to expand that.
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« Reply #1160 on: August 17, 2012, 02:46:05 AM »

We shouldn't forget to thank Wil. C for putting this excellent presentation together for us!

COMMENT:  I'll second that Pixletwin ! 

I found Will C. through his postings on Smileysmile.net. We exchanged emails and then phone calls. I sensed a high degree of character and ability in him, so sight unseen we both entered into a gentleman's agreement to work together on this project. I am an analog engineer and needed someone with digital and Internet expertise and experience. Will C. Music Productions has met every request I've made, and more. Will C. has never said 'no' to any technical request, always found a way around problems, and been a joy to work with. We live 1500 miles apart and have never met. Yet through the miracle of the Internet we have been able to bring you, our fellow Beach Boy fans, something of interest and value. Amazing times we live in !! 

So I'll add my thank you's to Will for all his time, creative input and hard work. 

Good Listening,  ~Stephen W. Desper
 


Thank you so much for this, Stephen. Amazing, amazing work - and very much appreciated.
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« Reply #1161 on: August 17, 2012, 08:56:46 AM »

Very pleased to see that people are still checking this out and chiming in.  And thank you, Mr. Desper, for the kind words!
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« Reply #1162 on: August 17, 2012, 09:25:21 AM »

It says to email for the password, but the email is "hidden". Am i missing something? Sad
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« Reply #1163 on: August 17, 2012, 10:24:18 AM »

Fishmonk has it right. WOW! A scintillating demonstration of just how far out on the cutting edge the Beach Boys and Mr. Desper were at this point in time. As many of us suspected at the time, Stephen was the band's "secret weapon" in the studio.

And an ear-opening excursion into the matchless vocal blend of the Beach Boys.

This highly edifying collaboration leads to only one logical conclusion: That's Why God Made the Internet. It makes things possible that would never happen otherwise. Thanks to Will C. for his skills in making such a tremendous resource available to us.

Mr. Desper, if there's more sonic material in your archives about "Slip On Through" and that mind-blowing "big cricket" sound, it would be stupendous to have a clip look at that track. Along with so many others.
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« Reply #1164 on: August 17, 2012, 10:52:24 AM »

It says to email for the password, but the email is "hidden". Am i missing something? Sad

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« Reply #1165 on: August 17, 2012, 11:09:22 AM »

It says to email for the password, but the email is "hidden". Am i missing something? Sad

It's a litmus test. If you aren't smart enough to figure out how to get there you aren't smart enough to see the studies.

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COMMENT:  It's not a litmus test, it has to do with copyright laws and interpertations. see Guidelines. Viewing may require registration as a member.  I sent info to him.

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« Reply #1166 on: August 17, 2012, 11:15:31 AM »

I was just kidding. That is why I posted the smiley. Smiley
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« Reply #1167 on: August 17, 2012, 11:19:33 AM »

Fishmonk has it right. WOW! A scintillating demonstration of just how far out on the cutting edge the Beach Boys and Mr. Desper were at this point in time. As many of us suspected at the time, Stephen was the band's "secret weapon" in the studio.

And an ear-opening excursion into the matchless vocal blend of the Beach Boys.

This highly edifying collaboration leads to only one logical conclusion: That's Why God Made the Internet. It makes things possible that would never happen otherwise. Thanks to Will C. for his skills in making such a tremendous resource available to us.

Mr. Desper, if there's more sonic material in your archives about "Slip On Through" and that mind-blowing "big cricket" sound, it would be stupendous to have a clip look at that track. Along with so many others.

The big cricket is the Cowbell Cricket, cousin to the Snare Cricket heard on Do It Again. 
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« Reply #1168 on: August 17, 2012, 11:50:49 AM »

Wow, this is enthralling. Thanks to Will C. for the presentation and Mr. Desper for the amazing work. This is amazing.
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« Reply #1169 on: August 17, 2012, 12:09:24 PM »

Fishmonk has it right. WOW! A scintillating demonstration of just how far out on the cutting edge the Beach Boys and Mr. Desper were at this point in time. As many of us suspected at the time, Stephen was the band's "secret weapon" in the studio.

And an ear-opening excursion into the matchless vocal blend of the Beach Boys.

This highly edifying collaboration leads to only one logical conclusion: That's Why God Made the Internet. It makes things possible that would never happen otherwise. Thanks to Will C. for his skills in making such a tremendous resource available to us.

Mr. Desper, if there's more sonic material in your archives about "Slip On Through" and that mind-blowing "big cricket" sound, it would be stupendous to have a clip look at that track. Along with so many others.

The big cricket is the Cowbell Cricket, cousin to the Snare Cricket heard on Do It Again. 

really? I've always wondered what that strange noise was.
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« Reply #1170 on: August 17, 2012, 02:29:00 PM »

I was just kidding. That is why I posted the smiley. Smiley

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I would be interested in hearing from you and other fans RE: how you liked the bonus track or comments on how it sounded


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« Reply #1171 on: August 17, 2012, 03:05:04 PM »

I was just kidding. That is why I posted the smiley. Smiley

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I would be interested in hearing from you and other fans RE: how you liked the bonus track or comments on how it sounded


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Personally, I like it better than the released version. It's much richer.
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« Reply #1172 on: August 17, 2012, 03:08:02 PM »

I was just kidding. That is why I posted the smiley. Smiley

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I would be interested in hearing from you and other fans RE: how you liked the bonus track or comments on how it sounded


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I liked it. My overall impression was that it sounded softer and  less compressed than the released version.
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« Reply #1173 on: August 17, 2012, 03:37:33 PM »

I was just kidding. That is why I posted the smiley. Smiley

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I would be interested in hearing from you and other fans RE: how you liked the bonus track or comments on how it sounded


~swd

Personally, I like it better than the released version. It's much richer.

I agree. It sort of takes the "cheese" out of it, if that makes any sense.


As for the CCW study video, I don't think I could begin to express my gratitude towards Mr. Desper and Will C. for putting this beautiful (both visually and aurally) presentation together.  Among all the awesome separated parts we get to hear, just hearing CCW in it's intended form was amazing... and the color-coded lyric video at the end was just the icing on the cake for me.  Well done both of you!


Side note: Mr. Desper, you make reference to your book "Recording The Beach Boys" quite often on this board.  Is it still possible to purchase a copy of this somehow?
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« Reply #1174 on: August 17, 2012, 04:57:27 PM »

Mr. Desper: It seemed to my ears (not on the best equipment at the time, alas...) that the reprocessing improved the sound balance in the verses and made them more sonically compatible with the chorus. And since that's been (for me, at any rate) one of the drawbacks in the released version, such an achievement is considerable. Such a version, if it were to be released in that form, would (IMO) move TWGMTR up the ladder a good bit in the BB's song pantheon.
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