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« on: October 28, 2011, 08:13:46 AM »

That mix??
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2011, 11:09:29 AM »

This is from an acetate right?
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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2011, 11:45:05 AM »

I got the box today, it's fantastic!

CIFOTM: I think the second chorus might be from an acetate, there is a small change in the sound quality when it starts (a bit distortion or something).

It's great to hear it with new vocals.
I'm wondering, they changed the BWPS mix and the vintage instr. edit for disc 1...was it just to use another section, or is there evidence this is the structure that would have been used in 1966/67?
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2011, 04:13:21 PM »

CIFOTM: I think the second chorus might be from an acetate, there is a small change in the sound quality when it starts (a bit distortion or something).

This is one of the highlights of the first disc for me, but I wish they would have included it with the sessions instead. The noticeable drop in sound quality makes it sound completely out of place, at least when you're listening on headphones. It's like watching a movie in IMAX that includes a scene the director shot on his cell phone. Very jarring.
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« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2011, 01:50:42 AM »

I personally love it!
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« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2011, 09:51:24 AM »

Sounds incredible
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« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2011, 12:00:56 PM »

i've only listened to the vinyl version, and so i really don't notice a drop in quality.. but holy cow, was my jaw on the floor with that new vocal line.  it's not much, but it's spectacular.
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« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2011, 04:50:38 PM »

it's not much, but it's spectacular.

That's what she said! 
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« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2011, 07:20:48 AM »

CIFOTM is one of the highlights of disc 1 for me as well, even though the structure is pretty rough. But those additional harmonies at the end are just fucking brilliant!
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« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2011, 05:22:32 AM »

The new vocals are great, really didn't expect that. But there's a LOT of distortion on the second chorus, I really think this is not made for Joe Q. Public.
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« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2011, 06:10:18 AM »

Well, it's from an acetate! Of course it's going to be rougher than usual
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« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2011, 08:41:59 AM »

Well, it's from an acetate! Of course it's going to be rougher than usual
Sure! That's why it's fine by me! It's more than that actually. I was just talking about the average listener.
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« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2011, 03:37:11 PM »

I LOVE the second chorus vocal. FATHER of the, FATHER OF THE MAN! Beautiful part.
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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2011, 10:38:21 PM »

Child was always in the running, but with this new 2nd chorus it just may be my favorite Smile song now. I mean DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2011, 10:35:27 AM »

Blown away...this song, along with Worms, is one of those numbers I never really had much interest in, but Mark and Alan really filled out Child, made it more layered and, really, more of a 'song' as opposed to just an intro to Surf's Up. Love the new vocal line, splicing together the different versions, really might possibly win 'most improved' for me!
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« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2011, 05:28:34 PM »

Hearing the material from the 10/11/66 session  is stunnng--after all these years of hearing such potential and wondering if you'd ever hear anything other than a low-fi acetate.

And yes, the new chorus is indeed something else. How Brian ever came up with those harmonies...
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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2011, 05:42:47 AM »

The intro bit (first 24 secs) feels tacked-on, I think it was put there so the very start of the song wouldn't be so similar to the very start of "Look" but it hurts the flow IMHO
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« Reply #17 on: November 03, 2011, 10:09:58 AM »

The intro bit (first 24 secs) feels tacked-on, I think it was put there so the very start of the song wouldn't be so similar to the very start of "Look" but it hurts the flow IMHO

The more I hear it, the more I agree with that. It's a cool little section, but doesn't jive at all with the sounds he was using for that track in '66. I've always started my "Child" mixes with the chorus - it starts the song off quickly and hooks you in right away!
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2011, 08:47:40 AM »

i'm super glad they put that stuff in to start Child.  Look is super boring, and starting Child with that just for smoothness would also be super boring.  They made Child a listenable track on its own for me
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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2011, 03:20:08 PM »

I am surprised by the sequencing. I thought they would for sure do the "verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/Surf's Up" version. Especially since "Child (bridge)" goes into the start of "Surf's Up" so perfect.

So, did the bootlegs have it right all those years ago: "bridge/chorus/verse/chorus"?

Also, I am hearing some clipping on the piano key hits during the "bridge" sections. Sounds like metal squeaking. Anybody else hear this?
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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2011, 03:59:39 PM »

I am surprised by the sequencing. I thought they would for sure do the "verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/Surf's Up" version. Especially since "Child (bridge)" goes into the start of "Surf's Up" so perfect.

So, did the bootlegs have it right all those years ago: "bridge/chorus/verse/chorus"?

Also, I am hearing some clipping on the piano key hits during the "bridge" sections. Sounds like metal squeaking. Anybody else hear this?

Seems we don't know, given the number of different permutations that have surfaced. The three minute version that surfaced several years ago had chorus/verse/chorus/verse/chorus/bridge/chorus
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« Reply #21 on: November 05, 2011, 07:47:23 PM »

I decided to quickly attempt to "clean" the 2nd verse a bit, for fan mixes and stuff, PM me if you want a listen...
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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2011, 10:36:35 PM »

I would love a mix of this a la Alternate BWPS... (Forget who you are Brian) 
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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2011, 07:54:35 AM »

I've done two stereo versions of the 2d verse and cleaned it a bit (with the two backing tracks), sounds pretty good.
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2011, 09:59:06 AM »

I'm guessing the vocal multi-tracks don't survive, which SUCKS.  Angry
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