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I'm increasing puzzled over the absence of the Beach Boys in relation to the Smile Sessions.
Okay, Al broke the news initially, but has said next to nothing since.
Mike's statement in the first official press release has been used here and there but virtually nowt since.
Bruce spoke up on the BBC Radio 4 section the other evening but I read his statements denying the arguing as being a little on the defensive side, while his suggestion that SMiLE could have been a BW solo project benefited more than a little from hindsight.
Van Dyke Parks has been interviewed quite a bit here and there but seems to be absent from the material in the box (other than his lyrical contribution to the songs, of course, which some might argue is all that is needed).
But Brian's being worked hard. Brian's the one doing the interviews left right and centre. Brian's the one signing limited edition boxes and surf boards. Brian's the one making videos showing off the box on YouTube. Brianwilson.com is virtually the official info source.
Are Mike and Al under some restraining order? Is there a real risk they'd be taken to task by any interviewer over the "don't fook with the formula" stuff?
Rightly or wrongly I sense some politics at work throughout this, and I'm curious. Be nice to get it out of the way before the box lands!
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I've read that Mike is allegedly refusing to do interviews for this release
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Quote from: Slim Shady on October 23, 2011, 07:12:33 PM
I've read that Mike is allegedly refusing to do interviews for this release
Not suprised, wonder if its because he still hates smile or he just doesn't want interviewers asking the same old questions about his dislike of smile.
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Quote from: SMiLE Brian on October 23, 2011, 07:18:11 PM
Quote from: Slim Shady on October 23, 2011, 07:12:33 PM
I've read that Mike is allegedly refusing to do interviews for this release
Not suprised, wonder if its because he still hates smile or he just doesn't want interviewers asking the same old questions about his dislike of smile.
The latter, I hope anyway
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Quote from: Slim Shady on October 23, 2011, 07:23:10 PM
Quote from: SMiLE Brian on October 23, 2011, 07:18:11 PM
Quote from: Slim Shady on October 23, 2011, 07:12:33 PM
I've read that Mike is allegedly refusing to do interviews for this release
Not suprised, wonder if its because he still hates smile or he just doesn't want interviewers asking the same old questions about his dislike of smile.
The latter, I hope anyway
It could simply be that Brian is the public face of the group now which in enough of itself is odd being that he actually isn't part of the group anymore.
Brian however, certainly has gotten more face time in the past decade as far as public relations go than any of his former band mates. With all these tours he's been doing this past decade it seems like he's been everywhere and then some. New albums, new tours, interviews, accepting awards all that good stuff. Maybe a collective decision was made to let Brian be the point man on this release being a) he's the creator of the music itself and b) the aforementioned PR issue
Then again the rest of them could all be chizzling at the hamburger stand or shopping for some sweet Halloween costumes?
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I've read that Mike is allegedly refusing to do interviews for this release
Not suprised, wonder if its because he still hates smile or he just doesn't want interviewers asking the same old questions about his dislike of smile.
The latter, I hope anyway
It could simply be that Brian is the public face of the group now which in enough of itself is odd being that he actually isn't part of the group anymore.
Brian however, certainly has gotten more face time in the past decade as far as public relations go than any of his former band mates. With all these tours he's been doing this past decade it seems like he's been everywhere and then some. New albums, new tours, interviews, accepting awards all that good stuff. Maybe a collective decision was made to let Brian be the point man on this release being a) he's the creator of the music itself and b) the aforementioned PR issue
Then again the rest of them could all be chizzling at the hamburger stand or shopping for some sweet Halloween costumes?
A music journalist on twitter wrote how he has gotten interviews with everyone expect Mike, Mike was a no show..
He's been a no show for a few interviews so far, sad really
"Got Brian Wilson the other day. Al Jardine tomorrow. But Mike Love remains a no show. Come on Mike... let's talk SMiLE!"
"Now I've got Al Jardine. Along with Brian, Brian's wife, Bruce and archivist Alan Boyd. Come on Mike Love. You gotta talk."
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Interesting how this has gone from "Mike
allegedly
won't do any promo" to him being chewed out for that in seventeen minutes.
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Everyone take a chill pill and relax from posting innuendo and conspiracy theories! I'm sure Mike will make some profound statement in regards to SMiLE's release next week.
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Re: So where are all the guys?
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Hmm, the average Mike Love 'Smile' interview, let's see how that would go.
Question 1: Why did you hate 'Smile'?
Question 2: Do you still hate 'Smile'?
Question 3: Why did you agree on having 'The Smile Sessions' released now, even though you hate it?
Question 4: Did Van Dyke Parks really quit because you hated his lyrics?
If Mike's not all that enthousiastic about doing interviews about 'Smile', I think I can see why.
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It might be that Mike has settled in to keeping the band on the road and continuing to perform a quality act with his very good band. He seems to see that as his role now, just continuing to keep it alive. The rest will take care of itself. He continues to meditate and maybe this is what he has arrived at. A sort of zen state of just letting it be. What is there to promote? The continued excellent performances and the Beach Boys as an institution are all that are reallyneeded to keep it going. And the SMiLE legend is so closely tied to Brian, it seems natural to leave the promotion to him, and others who might have an interest in promoting SMiLE, or just getting their names in print somewhere.
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Quote from: Slim Shady on October 23, 2011, 07:43:24 PM
"Got Brian Wilson the other day. Al Jardine tomorrow. But Mike Love remains a no show. Come on Mike... let's talk SMiLE!"
"Now I've got Al Jardine. Along with Brian, Brian's wife, Bruce and archivist Alan Boyd. Come on Mike Love. You gotta talk."
Now who is this? I´d really like to read those interviews.
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Whatever Mike's attitude really is about Smile, I think he ought to man up and own it. Brian has for some time, and imagine how difficult that must be for him at times--people openly discussing his mental illness, the collapse of the project closest to his heart, the subsequent difficulties of his band, etc.
Of course, he can do whatever he wants. And ultimately it's really not that important that he's not saying anything.
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Of course, this is the 2nd time Brian has had to discuss SMiLE and its effect on his health in depth with people in ten years!
I'd like to know what Mike thinks, really. But we have no idea why he's reluctant to talk. Being chewed out by journalists probably the most likely reason, his responses to SMiLE talk have hardly been friendly at best.... The 'You owe me $20' response springs to mind
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Interviews with both Brian and Mike are reportedly coming in the December ish of Goldmine.
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Quote from: Jimmie_R on October 24, 2011, 06:04:43 AM
Quote from: Slim Shady on October 23, 2011, 07:43:24 PM
"Got Brian Wilson the other day. Al Jardine tomorrow. But Mike Love remains a no show. Come on Mike... let's talk SMiLE!"
"Now I've got Al Jardine. Along with Brian, Brian's wife, Bruce and archivist Alan Boyd. Come on Mike Love. You gotta talk."
Now who is this? I´d really like to read those interviews.
I agree. By "Brian's wife," I assume this journalist means Marilyn. Interviews with Brian, Al, Bruce, Alan Boyd, and Marilyn? Yes, where do I read?
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Mike is fucking cool.
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isn;t alab boyd that guy from incubvus. dio not want.
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Quote from: John Manning on October 23, 2011, 07:09:57 PM
I'm increasing puzzled over the absence of the Beach Boys in relation to the Smile Sessions.
Okay, Al broke the news initially, but has said next to nothing since.
Mike's statement in the first official press release has been used here and there but virtually nowt since.
Bruce spoke up on the BBC Radio 4 section the other evening but I read his statements denying the arguing as being a little on the defensive side, while his suggestion that SMiLE could have been a BW solo project benefited more than a little from hindsight.
Van Dyke Parks has been interviewed quite a bit here and there but seems to be absent from the material in the box (other than his lyrical contribution to the songs, of course, which some might argue is all that is needed).
But Brian's being worked hard. Brian's the one doing the interviews left right and centre. Brian's the one signing limited edition boxes and surf boards. Brian's the one making videos showing off the box on YouTube. Brianwilson.com is virtually the official info source.
Are Mike and Al under some restraining order? Is there a real risk they'd be taken to task by any interviewer over the "don't fook with the formula" stuff?
Rightly or wrongly I sense some politics at work throughout this, and I'm curious. Be nice to get it out of the way before the box lands!
All is as it should be. All the fanboys would go apeshit if Mike Love was giong around saying ANYTHING about Smile. Remember, the story is Mike hates it. So if he gave any interview at all about anything to do with it, it would clash with the legend. Mike, Al, or Bruce didn't write any of it, it's Brian's baby so he should be the one doing the interviews, imho.
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Quote from: Amy B. on October 26, 2011, 06:20:12 PM
Quote from: Jimmie_R on October 24, 2011, 06:04:43 AM
Quote from: Slim Shady on October 23, 2011, 07:43:24 PM
"Got Brian Wilson the other day. Al Jardine tomorrow. But Mike Love remains a no show. Come on Mike... let's talk SMiLE!"
"Now I've got Al Jardine. Along with Brian, Brian's wife, Bruce and archivist Alan Boyd. Come on Mike Love. You gotta talk."
Now who is this? I´d really like to read those interviews.
I agree. By "Brian's wife," I assume this journalist means Marilyn. Interviews with Brian, Al, Bruce, Alan Boyd, and Marilyn? Yes, where do I read?
He works for the Boston Globe, here's his twitter
http://twitter.com/#!/gedgers1
Don't think his interviews have been published yet, Mike is stalling
Trying to finish Smile story but slow going. In reality, putting off inevitable in hopes my hero Mike Love will finally call.
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Regarding Mike's apparent refusal to be involved in the promotion of
Smile
...
Believe me, I generally hate sticking up for this guy, but...in this case I need to...it might not be so much that he "refuses," but probably DECLINES quite simply because he literally knows he can't contribute much; his involvement in
Smile
was little, if anything, more than vocals here and there. He wasn't around during the creation, he doesn't know where Brian's head was at, what the atmosphere was like, etc. Remember the
Smile
portion of
Endless Harmony
where Mike laughs and says something like "Why are you asking
me
about that?" Quite simply, he's probably saying/implying, "Look, if you want input about
Smile
, I'm not going to be a good source. Talk to someone who was more involved. Hey, instead, let me sing you a song I wrote. It's called 'Wrinkles.'"
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That's exactly how I see it too. It would be a bit disrespectful of Mike to even talk about it, seeing as how he's been painted, and also seeing as how he had little to do with the album.
On the other side of it, which I'm sure most people won't really agree with, but oh well.... it's kind of disrespectful (unless done in the most casual way) to even ask Mike about it. The only possible reason somebody would ask Mike about Smile is to stir up some sh*t.
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Quote from: Amy B. on October 26, 2011, 06:20:12 PM
Quote from: Jimmie_R on October 24, 2011, 06:04:43 AM
Quote from: Slim Shady on October 23, 2011, 07:43:24 PM
"Got Brian Wilson the other day. Al Jardine tomorrow. But Mike Love remains a no show. Come on Mike... let's talk SMiLE!"
"Now I've got Al Jardine. Along with Brian, Brian's wife, Bruce and archivist Alan Boyd. Come on Mike Love. You gotta talk."
Now who is this? I´d really like to read those interviews.
I agree. By "Brian's wife," I assume this journalist means Marilyn. Interviews with Brian, Al, Bruce, Alan Boyd, and Marilyn? Yes, where do I read?
Marilyn would be cool but it's probably Melinda.
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Mike's working on his '..the crow flies..' line for next year.
http://gothamist.com/2011/10/27/brian_wilson.php
Have you considered touring with The Beach Boys who are still alive, and performing the Smile material?
Brian: I don't know, we haven't discussed that yet.
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Quote from: My Cousin Brian on October 27, 2011, 01:36:53 PM
Mike's working on his '..the crow flies..' line for next year.
http://gothamist.com/2011/10/27/brian_wilson.php
Have you considered touring with The Beach Boys who are still alive, and performing the Smile material?
Brian: I don't know, we haven't discussed that yet.
I read that interview earlier today. Kind of your standard "yes, no" BW interview but I did enjoy this part:
What do you think about the raft of newer musicians, such as Panda Bear, who see you as an influence. Do you listen to their music at all?
No I don't actually. I listen to oldies but goodies records.
Are there any contemporary bands or singers that you enjoy?
Oldies but goodies.
What was that interviewer trying to do? Get Brian to admit he is a regular follower of American Idol?
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Good on Brian fronting all these interviews about Smile. I would want to have a sign or T-shirt saying 'Same as 2004!' as my answer.
No offence to the others but it is better to talk to the organ grinder. With the box signings, PR etc he is earning what I'm sure is a bigger cut of the earnings aside from his writing percentage.
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