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« Reply #325 on: October 24, 2011, 10:04:01 PM »

Point taken.

Sorry if I came off as... preachy? Something like that. It'd just be goofy if they could get this guy to act like he was doing something multiple times on film but not get him to pose for a staged picture. But hay, there are some interesting folk behind the modern day "Brian machine", so it's hard to say.
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« Reply #326 on: October 24, 2011, 10:20:24 PM »

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The staged studio footage,

I believe some was staged for Imagination, the Christmas album and BWPS. But at least for the latter two, it was done because filming schedules were short and they needed footage quickly. Nothing on those latter two videos seems particularly out of character -- and and Mark has said the footage was perfectly representative of the actual sessions. There has also been abundant real footage of Brian creating -- TLOS DVD, On Christmas Day web video, the footage from Darian's laptop on the Smile DVD.

The Imagination stuff is at a different level. It basically shows him producing tracks that he didn't produce, and arranging things he didn't arrange. It gave everything that followed it a bad name. I can understand the desire to do it -- it had been 10 years since his last big solo project -- but it has had repercussions.

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people doubling Brian's leads live and especially on record (especially Jeff doing it),

Live, I don't see the problem. Lots of the songs are double-tracked, and re-creating that can take two voices. On record, I'm not sure what you're talking about. Happened in BWPS on a tune or two, but I'm not sure where else you're hearing this. Yes, Jeff does sing a lot of falsetto and "answer" type parts. And that does get on a nerve or two around these parts!

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the staged "fun and sun" image they're giving him a good 45 years after it was appropriate - this is the sort of trickery that I find really annoying,

Where and when have they given him that image? The suit and tie at the grand piano for the Gershwin album? The suit and broken-down 50s backdrop of the TLOS pictures? If anything, they've been trying to make him look like an elder statesman. I mean, if anything, his folks are trying to keep Brian away from that image -- he wants to start all his live shows with California Girls, for Pete's sake!

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but a photoshopped Facebook picture? Meh.

Agreed.
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« Reply #327 on: October 24, 2011, 11:14:41 PM »

Brian at Ocean Way yesterday:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150380545642241&set=a.452661542240.241240.34250497240&type=1&theater

(I'd post the photo but I don't know how to)

OK I use photosop quite a lot.

The hands are not 'shopped. Something funny is going on with Brian's face and head but I'm not convinced that it means he was not actually there. It may just be lighting effects or that its been 'shopped to bring out his face. Look at the hair, it's nearly impossible to photoshop hair that well and merge it into an existing image.

So my conclusion, admittedly from the low res pic on Facebook, is that the image has been played with in order to make it look nice but I am 70% sure it's not actually fake. But I am ready to be corrected, because there are some very strange things going on with Brian's nose

It's not faked, just oddly processed, according to someone who would know.
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« Reply #328 on: October 25, 2011, 07:02:22 AM »

Whew.  Glad we got that straightened out.  I wonder if Brian ever thinks "Fuck the money, get these people away from me?"
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« Reply #329 on: October 25, 2011, 07:13:52 AM »

Whew.  Glad we got that straightened out.  I wonder if Brian ever thinks "f*ck the money, get these people away from me?"

I'm sure he thinks it, just wish he'd say it!
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« Reply #330 on: October 25, 2011, 12:54:17 PM »

Brian at Ocean Way yesterday:

http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150380545642241&set=a.452661542240.241240.34250497240&type=1&theater

(I'd post the photo but I don't know how to)

OK I use photosop quite a lot.

The hands are not 'shopped. Something funny is going on with Brian's face and head but I'm not convinced that it means he was not actually there. It may just be lighting effects or that its been 'shopped to bring out his face. Look at the hair, it's nearly impossible to photoshop hair that well and merge it into an existing image.

So my conclusion, admittedly from the low res pic on Facebook, is that the image has been played with in order to make it look nice but I am 70% sure it's not actually fake. But I am ready to be corrected, because there are some very strange things going on with Brian's nose

It's not faked, just oddly processed, according to someone who would know.

As an experienced photoshopper I am fully prepared to believe that.

It looks to me as if possibly Brian's face was very dark in the photo and somebody has selectively processed just that are (Brian's face) to play with. Most of the rest of the photo is untouched. It's a shame they didn't manage to blend the edges (eg. nose) in with the console better. Perhaps they were rushed for time.

It is also entirely possible that the image looked fine, and was then posted to facebook - FB has it's own image squashing algorithm which may have made the photo look less plausible.

As I said earlier, I'm a photoshop user and perfectly prepared to believe it's a real image where the only manipulation was in making it look nicer. Brian was there at the console in the pose depicted.
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« Reply #331 on: October 26, 2011, 04:52:26 PM »

Can anyone make out any of the channel notations, other than "Music" and "Vocals" on the two bus faders to the left? 
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« Reply #332 on: October 28, 2011, 02:27:41 PM »

From http://www.knoxville.com/news/2011/oct/14/wayne-bledsoe-brian-wilson-on-disney-songs-and/?partner=RSS

Overall, Wilson seems to be in a very productive phase of his life.

"I feel a creative roll coming on, yeah, I do. I'm working on an album. It's just going to be great. All original stuff and, believe me, it's good stuff."

Wilson says he hopes to have the new album out possibly as soon as the end of this year.

"We're not working slow. We're working at a pretty good clip. My producer, Joe Thomas, and I are also writing songs together."

Wilson says tracks on the upcoming album include songs titled "The Private Life (of) Bill and Sue" and "Shelter."

"It's gonna be a really, really good album," he says.
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« Reply #333 on: October 28, 2011, 02:30:36 PM »

Hm, so now we know for sure he's working with Joe Thomas again. Don't know what I think about it. Hope both of them have learned their lessons.
But it's great he seems to be on a roll. I think TSS and digging into the Disney and Gershwin songs might have spurred some new creativity. And of course I hope it will become a Beach Boys album
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« Reply #334 on: October 28, 2011, 02:30:52 PM »

So does this suggest this is only a solo album? Shame, I would like one last BB album.
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« Reply #335 on: October 28, 2011, 02:37:29 PM »

It's never too late.  They could drag these Zombies out for the 60th!
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« Reply #336 on: October 28, 2011, 02:54:09 PM »

In a Billboard.com article, BW made it pretty clear this is a solo project:

"I'm starting another Brian Wilson album. We've got about five or six things in the works," Wilson tells Billboard.com. He adds that he anticipates making "just another album with good songs, some of it rock 'n' roll, some of it not."
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« Reply #337 on: October 28, 2011, 02:57:56 PM »

So does this suggest this is only a solo album? Shame, I would like one last BB album.

Not me, I have no interest in the post Love You BB albums and expect we'd get more of the same. If Brian was in charge and using his current band with the other BBs singing and maybe writing a few words it might be good. But I see that as an unlikely scenario.

I'm looking forward to a new album of new material it does seem like a watershed time for Brian.

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« Reply #338 on: October 28, 2011, 03:06:14 PM »

And let me guess: there's one song that goes "Rock...roll...rockin' an'-a-roll-lin'..."
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« Reply #339 on: October 28, 2011, 03:15:06 PM »

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And let me guess: there's one song that goes "Rock...roll...rockin' an'-a-roll-lin'..."
I like watchin' '60s radio TV
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It's gotta be '60s rock
every night at seven o' clock!
Melinda take all the dogs outside
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It's gotta be '60s rock
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Melinda take all the dogs outside
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It's gotta be '60s rock
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Melinda take all the dogs outside
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« Reply #340 on: October 28, 2011, 03:21:36 PM »

Brilliant.
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« Reply #341 on: October 28, 2011, 04:17:16 PM »

"Just another album with good songs, some of it rock 'n' roll, some of it not."

Please make it ALL Rock & Roll, Brian. None o' that wimp rock! Couple ballads will be OK, but let's boogie! Driving guitars and bass, drums, the whole nine yards. Give it a little Spectoresqe feel and you got a million and two seller!
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« Reply #342 on: October 28, 2011, 04:29:50 PM »

I'm not sure I'd really want an entire full length album from The Beach Boys....but it'd be pretty great if they had 2 or 3 new songs on Brian's next solo album.   
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« Reply #343 on: October 29, 2011, 12:35:50 AM »

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Wilson says he hopes to have the new album out possibly as soon as the end of this year.

"We're not working slow. We're working at a pretty good clip. My producer, Joe Thomas, and I are also writing songs together."

End of this year?! We're almost in NOVEMBER. I think he means 2012.
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« Reply #344 on: October 29, 2011, 02:22:12 AM »

With reference to his recent BBC Radio interview, Brian said he was getting together with his friends Joe and Jeff to make an album. He said it wasn't a Beach Boys album.

Of course that doesn't stop him from also being involved in some sort of Beach Boys project. Why not do an EP? Surely the Boys between them have three good new (or at least unheard) songs they could add to the new Do It Again and fashion a decent EP.
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« Reply #345 on: October 29, 2011, 07:53:31 AM »

"Just another album with good songs, some of it rock 'n' roll, some of it not."

Please make it ALL Rock & Roll, Brian. None o' that wimp rock! Couple ballads will be OK, but let's boogie! Driving guitars and bass, drums, the whole nine yards. Give it a little Spectoresqe feel and you got a million and two seller!

but those have been the worst songs on every bw release
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« Reply #346 on: October 29, 2011, 08:55:39 AM »

Yeah, we're gonna get an entire album of "How Can We Still Be Dancin'", no thanks.
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« Reply #347 on: October 29, 2011, 09:18:09 AM »

Yeah, we're gonna get an entire album of "How Can We Still Be Dancin'", no thanks.
Am i  the only person who happens to like that song. If they let brian work on things with them and mike doesn't take over the session it could be a good record. 
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« Reply #348 on: October 29, 2011, 09:28:44 AM »

Yeah, we're gonna get an entire album of "How Can We Still Be Dancin'", no thanks.
Am i  the only person who happens to like that song. If they let brian work on things with them and mike doesn't take over the session it could be a good record. 

I love HCWSBD. One of the stronger tracks on GIOMH IMO.
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« Reply #349 on: October 29, 2011, 10:40:09 AM »

Yeah, we're gonna get an entire album of "How Can We Still Be Dancin'", no thanks.
Am i  the only person who happens to like that song. If they let brian work on things with them and mike doesn't take over the session it could be a good record. 

I love HCWSBD. One of the stronger tracks on GIOMH IMO.
Not to mention the title track as well.
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