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« Reply #200 on: October 11, 2011, 02:18:05 PM »

not  Ocean Way sessions.. just "Ocean Way"
great name for a BB CD.

and if your going to grab a ML solo track for this, Cool Head, Warm Heart  isn't half bad...
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« Reply #201 on: October 11, 2011, 02:27:32 PM »

If I hear another rerecording of California Feelin' I'm probably gonna stop liking that song.

Unless it's the 1974 version.  Evil

I've yet to hear a good rendition of the line "pick a grapefruit from a grapefruit tree…".

In my mind the song is irredeemable.
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« Reply #202 on: October 11, 2011, 02:32:07 PM »

IMHO, most of Mike's solo songs need to be put in the can....don't forget to flush.
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« Reply #203 on: October 11, 2011, 03:10:58 PM »

IMHO, most of Mike's solo songs need to be put in the can....don't forget to flush.
Anything with that much cr@p in it probably would require three or four flushes with some incredibly vigorous plunging  in between.  Or perhaps a much larger model with an extra huge escape route for the rejected material. angel
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« Reply #204 on: October 11, 2011, 03:31:10 PM »

Good to see you guys are so humble with your opinions........

You know what Mike would do if he didn't get one of his songs on there or at least one with his lyrics, don'tcha?

Hard to believe Mike re-did "Brian's Back" again. Just saw that on YouTube a couple weeks ago and couldn't believe it.  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #205 on: October 11, 2011, 03:56:41 PM »

They should just nail it with absolute gold-standard unreleased gems.

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« Reply #206 on: October 11, 2011, 04:05:52 PM »

Call me nuts, but I would love to hear a BB version of Love and Mercy.

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« Reply #207 on: October 11, 2011, 04:16:45 PM »

I don't understand why people keep asking for re-recordings of old songs they've already heard. Give me 12 new ones!!!
Gee, I still remember how dissapointed people were upon knowing that GIOMH would include so many re-recordings. For me, that weakens previous interest on any album
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« Reply #208 on: October 11, 2011, 04:20:09 PM »

Good to see you guys are so humble with your opinions........

You know what Mike would do if he didn't get one of his songs on there or at least one with his lyrics, don'tcha?

Hard to believe Mike re-did "Brian's Back" again. Just saw that on YouTube a couple weeks ago and couldn't believe it.  Roll Eyes
Kinda thought the new version of Brian's back was decent compared to the crass 1970s version.
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« Reply #209 on: October 11, 2011, 04:22:47 PM »

I don't understand why people keep asking for re-recordings of old songs they've already heard. Give me 12 new ones!!!
Gee, I still remember how dissapointed people were upon knowing that GIOMH would include so many re-recordings. For me, that weakens previous interest or any album

Exactly. And not great songs I might add.

These guys still have what it takes to make a great album full of originals. Brian wrote 'Good Kind Of Love' by himself - he has a lot of great tunes left in him I bet....Mike has some great lyrics, and they ALL have great voices right now - why the heck would we want a re-recorded version of Desert Drive or Soul Searchin'?
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« Reply #210 on: October 11, 2011, 04:47:50 PM »

Of COURSE we want new songs!  No brainer!  But what if the new songs aren't up to snuff and basically suck?  I say throw a couple of re-makes on the fire that deserve to be heard by the mainstream. You know, good solid unreleased tried and true songs that the fan community has heard on bootlegs, but remain unreleased to the public. The instrumental tracks are there, just re-record the vocals or use existing ones. I'm all for new songs - let's see what Brian (and Mike) have up their sleeves. Don't want another "Still Cruisin'" CD, just originals with maybe a few good unreleased ones thrown in. I'll take "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" or "Dancin' The Night Away" or "This Could Be The Night" or "It's Like Heaven" or "Sandy/Sherry She Needs Me" or..........or.........Yeah, that's the ticket!

"Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again" would be a given. That song by itself would probably sell the CD.

"Do It Again" has been released 3 or 4 times already in some capacity, but it looks like they've re-recorded it again. Maybe it's a theme song for the new album, who knows.

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« Reply #211 on: October 11, 2011, 04:50:21 PM »

Kinda thought the new version of Brian's back was decent compared to the crass 1970s version.

Who's singing that, Mike's kid?  To me it's inferior compared to the version on the Endless Harmony CD.
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« Reply #212 on: October 11, 2011, 04:57:53 PM »

Kinda thought the new version of Brian's back was decent compared to the crass 1970s version.

Who's singing that, Mike's kid?  To me it's inferior compared to the version on the Endless Harmony CD.
Its Mike's kid Christian singing, i just thought it was crass to write a song with such goofy lyrics about a man only in his mid 30 and understanding his problems. Hope Mike is over his habit of writing songs that reference older Beach Boys songs.
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« Reply #213 on: October 11, 2011, 05:17:04 PM »

Regarding re-recordings, etc. Of course I am for new songs and new recordings. I was just saying what would be possible to include Carl's voice. Since some of his vocals are on tracks not finished (like was the case for DFTS), I don't think there would be a problem with finishing them. It would be just for one or two songs like I'd look at it.
But all in all I am OF COURSE for new songs and new recordings. I think I was clear enough from the beginning. I also think that's what most people would want
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« Reply #214 on: October 11, 2011, 05:23:14 PM »

Of COURSE we want new songs!  No brainer!  But what if the new songs aren't up to snuff and basically suck?  I say throw a couple of re-makes on the fire that deserve to be heard by the mainstream. You know, good solid unreleased tried and true songs that the fan community has heard on bootlegs, but remain unreleased to the public. The instrumental tracks are there, just re-record the vocals or use existing ones. I'm all for new songs - let's see what Brian (and Mike) have up their sleeves. Don't want another "Still Cruisin'" CD, just originals with maybe a few good unreleased ones thrown in. I'll take "You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling" or "Dancin' The Night Away" or "This Could Be The Night" or "It's Like Heaven" or "Sandy/Sherry She Needs Me" or..........or.........Yeah, that's the ticket!

"Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again" would be a given. That song by itself would probably sell the CD.

"Do It Again" has been released 3 or 4 times already in some capacity, but it looks like they've re-recorded it again. Maybe it's a theme song for the new album, who knows.



I just read today it's supposed to be used for a promo-vid for their reunion shows....http://www.tgdaily.com/games-and-entertainment-features/58937-unplugging-garbage-is-back-and-so-are-the-beach-boys - though I don't know where they got that info....I need to read up more on this stuff.

No reason why it can't be part of an album as well though.
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I think Do It Again is a great choice for a re-record - I just don't want the album to be full of them. And songs like 'Wouldn't It Be Nice (To Live Again)' deserve to be a part of a "from the vaults" comp - not a newly recorded Beach Boys record imo.

I'd love a CD full of new songs by the guys - a final goodbye to the many fans. Then have another CD chock full of songs like 'Wouldn't It Be Nice (To Live Again)', the backing track to 'In The Back Of My Mind', etc.

I just think, as a final farewell album, they can do better than 'Desert Drive' and 'Dancin' The Night Away'.
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« Reply #215 on: October 11, 2011, 05:27:46 PM »

Regarding re-recordings, etc. Of course I am for new songs and new recordings. I was just saying what would be possible to include Carl's voice. Since some of his vocals are on tracks not finished (like was the case for DFTS), I don't think there would be a problem with finishing them. It would be just for one or two songs like I'd look at it.
But all in all I am OF COURSE for new songs and new recordings. I think I was clear enough from the beginning. I also think that's what most people would want

I see what you're saying - but I don't think it would be fair to us (or more importantly, Carl) if they used a shoddy unreleased song just because it had Carl's voice on it. I don't know the history behind these vaulted songs - they could be masterpieces for all I know - but if 'Don't Fight The Sea' was the best song of the bunch, I'd hate to see what is left....in my humble opinion.

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« Reply #216 on: October 11, 2011, 05:28:37 PM »

The Beach Boys present "Ocean Way"

Sounds so good
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« Reply #217 on: October 11, 2011, 06:24:08 PM »

Ocean Way is not a good album title (imo). It's only slightly better than, say, Keepin' The Summer Alive or Summer In Paradise.
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« Reply #218 on: October 11, 2011, 06:34:44 PM »

My vote is for: "The Faded Rock Group Revival" album.
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« Reply #219 on: October 11, 2011, 07:09:48 PM »

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I just think, as a final farewell album, they can do better than 'Desert Drive' and 'Dancin' The Night Away'.

That is, in my opinion, honestly the best they can do.

We will be lucky if a reunion album has songs of that quality.

I mean, what else has anyone in the group produced in the last 30 years that suggests they can top those songs? Brian has certainly written some good ballads in that time, but have any of his up tempo tunes fared better than these two?
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« Reply #220 on: October 11, 2011, 07:21:48 PM »

I hasten to add, I think you could have a much better performed and produced version of DD -- something like the Paley sessions backing track, for one, and Mike lead vocals -- and it would go to a different level than the flat rendition on GIOMH.

And we've never heard a completed version of DtNA -- I'd love to hear the whole thing. "Grace of my Heart," too, come to think of it.
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« Reply #221 on: October 11, 2011, 07:27:22 PM »

I guess it just comes down to personal preference. I think a song like 'Good Kind Of Love' is a far superior song to the aforementioned songs.

Granted, that is one song out of the plethora that Brian has written in last 20 years. Anyways, I see ya'll's point. I'm just trying to be optimistic about the idea that they can blow us away with some incredible original music.

Either way, can't wait to hear what this version of 'Do It Again' sounds like! When do you guys think it will be released?
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« Reply #222 on: October 11, 2011, 07:35:44 PM »

I really like Good Kind of Love too, by the way. Great tune. As are lots of things from TLOS. I'm just not sure the difference in quality between it and the best-possible version of DD is that wide.

Am very curious about the Do It Again remake. I really hope it has some sort of added BW tag or backing part. The new tag to "Caroline No" made Stars and Stripes nearly bearable for me!
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« Reply #223 on: October 11, 2011, 07:43:07 PM »

Honestly, at their core and in their basic elements, Brian has had a bunch of really solid songs of the last twenty years or so. It's just that a good 3/4 of them have  been pissed away due to poor arrangements or other sonic oddities. It's a shame some of them have already seen release, thus preventing them from making a new Beach Boys album and, in all likelihood, being far better executed.
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« Reply #224 on: October 11, 2011, 07:58:43 PM »

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Honestly, at their core and in their basic elements, Brian has had a bunch of really solid songs of the last twenty years or so. It's just that a good 3/4 of them have  been pissed away due to poor arrangements or other sonic oddities. It's a shame some of them have already seen release, thus preventing them from making a new Beach Boys album and, in all likelihood, being far better executed.

Absolutely. Brilliant post.

In terms of "sonic oddities," sadly many of them are due to Brian singing lead on these songs. He seems to have a flair for taking the most commercial tune on his records -- South American on Imagination, DD on GIOMH -- and totally whiffing on the lead. His so seldom handles those lyric-driven rockers well.
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