MOJO Special Spolier

[grillo]

Why is it that everyone feels they deserve to get things for free?

Why does Mojo get to profit from someone else's creativity is, I think, a question is a lot harder to find a convincing answer for.

Hmm. Let's see, here'e three: 
They've invested the time and $$ to run their business, and they're paying for the right to use that creativity; 
They're the ones that put out this issue that includes the , somewhat, free 45.
They pay people to write the articles in their mag( good or bad)

Why do people feel they deserve to sponge off the people that have spent the $$ to buy the mag? ( some people don't mind sharing, obviously)
I'll be glad to provide you my snail address, if you'll send me everything you own, that I desire to have. Plese make a list of everything you have, so I'll know what to ask for.

Sir, don't forget you are living in a world where people are taught property rights do not matter and that everyone should somehow benefit from someone else's work without lifting a finger and that...well, you get the idea. Garbage in garbage out.

[Chocolate Shake Man]

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Hmm. Let's see, here'e three:  
They've invested the time and $$ to run their business, and they're paying for the right to use that creativity;  
They're the ones that put out this issue that includes the , somewhat, free 45.
They pay people to write the articles in their mag( good or bad)

I'm afraid none of those are convincing.

1. The fact that the magazine is paying to profit from someone else's creativity doesn't justify the fact that they are earning money from the work that someone else has done. Just because they have sacrificed some of that profit by "paying for the rights" is hardly compelling. Ultimately, they are packaging the 45 with the intention that it will help sell more magazines. So in other words, it's okay to profit off of work done by other people if you're a magazine. But if you simply want to hear the music without profiting anyone, then it's a serious problem. So, basically, the key thing here is profit - doesn't matter if it's the creator.
2. So I should be thankful that Mojo is giving me a 45 that is "somewhat free" but I should complain when someone asks to drop the "somewhat"?
3. This has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

Why do people feel they deserve to sponge off the people that have spent the $$ to buy the mag? ( some people don't mind sharing, obviously)

Please provide evidence that proves that you know what "people feel" when they are making this request.

I'll be glad to provide you my snail address, if you'll send me everything you own, that I desire to have. Plese make a list of everything you have, so I'll know what to ask for.

Uh huh - in what fairy tale land do you live in where when you send someone a copy of a song, do you lose the song from your own possession as a consequence?

[Chocolate Shake Man]

Sir, don't forget you are living in a world where people are taught property rights do not matter and that everyone should somehow benefit from someone else's work without lifting a finger and that...well, you get the idea.

Where is this taught, exactly?

[Mike's Beard]

Jeez, bgas has gone all Lars Ulrich on us!

[Mooger Fooger]

I'm afraid none of those are convincing.

1. The fact that the magazine is paying to profit from someone else's creativity doesn't justify the fact that they are earning money from the work that someone else has done. Just because they have sacrificed some of that profit by "paying for the rights" is hardly compelling. Ultimately, they are packaging the 45 with the intention that it will help sell more magazines. So in other words, it's okay to profit off of work done by other people if you're a magazine. But if you simply want to hear the music without profiting anyone, then it's a serious problem. So, basically, the key thing here is profit - doesn't matter if it's the creator.
 

The big difference is that Mojo and BRI have mutually agreed on the entire procedure. That is, BRI says, "if you pay us xxx you are licensed to make a profit by using our work." When you copy the single into a format so that someone else can play it, you have not entered into any agreement with BRI to do so. You can define how much you disagree with that all you like, but that is the law and you will find both BRI and Mojo on your case if you started making a habit of doing so.  Just playing devil's advocate.

[rab2591]

Hey, is it too late to be the recipient  of a shiny new PM? I'm getting weary of haunting the youtubes in hopes of some wonderful surprise.

Maybe the mag wuill get to a store near you soon( I'm still hoping for me) and you can buy the mag. OR get one from MOJO, or Ebay.
Why is it that everyone feels they deserve to get things for free?

I bought the magazine. Can someone PM me a fucking turntable to listen to the record that came with it?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Hey, is it too late to be the recipient  of a shiny new PM? I'm getting weary of haunting the youtubes in hopes of some wonderful surprise.

Maybe the mag wuill get to a store near you soon( I'm still hoping for me) and you can buy the mag. OR get one from MOJO, or Ebay.
Why is it that everyone feels they deserve to get things for free?

I bought the magazine. Can someone PM me a friggin' turntable to listen to the record that came with it?

Post Of The Month winner. 

[Shady]

Well, got mine today and if not for the record it would have been a total waste of time

[JJ3810]

For those of you who have given up looking at your local outlets as I have, CD Universe is shipping these at $23.50:
http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?PID=8539317&Style=MUSIC

[bgas]

Bought one locally today for $16.99. Came in a sealed plastic bag, so I guess I'll never actually see the record....

[18thofMay]

Hey, is it too late to be the recipient  of a shiny new PM? I'm getting weary of haunting the youtubes in hopes of some wonderful surprise.

Maybe the mag wuill get to a store near you soon( I'm still hoping for me) and you can buy the mag. OR get one from MOJO, or Ebay.
Why is it that everyone feels they deserve to get things for free?

I bought the magazine. Can someone PM me a friggin' turntable to listen to the record that came with it?

Post Of The Month winner. 

You obviously have not seen the recent threads started by my mate the monk and Bill!! Oh and Phils' over on the blue!!

[guitarfool2002]

Bought one locally today for $16.99. Came in a sealed plastic bag, so I guess I'll never actually see the record....

Where's the fun in that? 

[bgas]

Bought one locally today for $16.99. Came in a sealed plastic bag, so I guess I'll never actually see the record....

Where's the fun in that? 

It's not about fun; it's about feeling the vibrations coming thru the bag, and picturing what's really enclosed inside. Very akin to An Act of Creation

[SloopJohnB]

Bought one locally today for $16.99. Came in a sealed plastic bag, so I guess I'll never actually see the record....

Where's the fun in that? 

It's not about fun; it's about feeling the vibrations coming thru the bag, and picturing what's really enclosed inside. Very akin to An Act of Creation

 

[The Heartical Don]

Bought one locally today for $16.99. Came in a sealed plastic bag, so I guess I'll never actually see the record....

Where's the fun in that? 

It's not about fun; it's about feeling the vibrations coming thru the bag, and picturing what's really enclosed inside. Very akin to An Act of Creation

Sounds more like Schrödinger's Cat to me.

[The Shift]

Bought one locally today for $16.99. Came in a sealed plastic bag, so I guess I'll never actually see the record....

Where's the fun in that? 

It's not about fun; it's about feeling the vibrations coming thru the bag, and picturing what's really enclosed inside. Very akin to An Act of Creation

Sounds more like Schrödinger's Cat to me.

Wouldn't the Cat suffocate if it came in a sealed plastic bag?

[Loaf]

Wouldn't the Cat suffocate if it came in a sealed plastic bag?

Only if the bag was over its head as well.

[The Shift]

Wouldn't the Cat suffocate if it came in a sealed plastic bag?

          

You been watching too many California-made movies Bro'!

Only if the bag was over its head as well.

[The Shift]

Wouldn't the Cat suffocate if it came in a sealed plastic bag?

Only if the bag was over its head as well.

           

You been watching too many California-made movies Bro'!

[Micha]

I finally bothered to look for the Mojo special at the foreign magazine shop, as I thought even with the SMiLE part being not so terrific, it would be nice to have it. But the price was 22.95 Euros, which I thought was a bit much. That's about $32.85. How much was it in the US and the UK?

[Loaf]

It was £10 in the UK, equivalent to about $16.

[bgas]

It was £10 in the UK, equivalent to about $16.

Yes, here it was $17. 

[grillo]

Sir, don't forget you are living in a world where people are taught property rights do not matter and that everyone should somehow benefit from someone else's work without lifting a finger and that...well, you get the idea.

Where is this taught, exactly?

School, TV, every single politician ever.

[stack-o-tracks]

Sir, don't forget you are living in a world where people are taught property rights do not matter and that everyone should somehow benefit from someone else's work without lifting a finger and that...well, you get the idea.

Where is this taught, exactly?

School, TV, every single politician ever.

Oh come on, all of those politicians totally need those luxury cars they're leasing with our tax money. HOW COULD THEY POSSIBLY RUN THE COUNTRY IF THEY WERE FORCED TO DRIVE TOYOTAS?!

Even though that's barely dipping a toe into the pool. Maybe compared to what they spend it's more like just knowing that the pool actually exists.

If only we could have our cake and eat it like the people "running" our country get to. And yeah, they're running it. INTO THE GROUND. 

Anyways. Why you guys think it's okay to go off topic?

[Paulos]

Resurrecting an old thread as didn't want to start a new one for no reason - I have just got back to the UK after travelling and I found that I had ordered 2 copies of the Mojo Smile special with the Cabin Essence/Wonderful yellow vinyl 45. This means that I have a spare which I am happy to send to anyone who didn't manage to get it (if anyone has a spare H&V record day vinyl they want to swap that would be even better!).