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November 07, 2011, 12:36:07 AM »
Quote from: Wirestone on November 02, 2011, 09:20:39 PM
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It also seems like the evolution to smiley smile began during the smile sessions.
Fishmonk, this has been one of my real revelations too!
I said somewhere else -- not sure what thread -- that maybe our vocabulary about Smile has been incorrect. We use words -- heck, Brian uses words -- like "collapse," "abandon," "shelve." But really the end of the project just seems like a shift and an evolution. Brian keeps working on the same songs. He remakes some of them, sure, but he'd been recutting tracks throughout the Smile sessions. He already had shifted to exceptionally simple backing tracks before the SS sessions -- listen to some of the sparse Vega-Tables tracks, for instance.
I had always thought of Smiley Smile as being incredibly separate -- the "bunt" and all that. But it really seems as though it's actually the finished album! Or at least, that Brian at the time considered it so. At the very least, it seems part of the same continuum of work that continued, in some form, at least through the Friends album.
When I first listened to actual SMiLE tracks on the GV box set I thought they sounded much more like Friends than - as I had expected - like Pet Sounds.
On TSS the tracks sound much better than on the GV box.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on November 06, 2011, 11:50:17 PM
Quote from: The Demon on November 06, 2011, 03:01:13 PM
Quote from: PhilCohen on November 06, 2011, 12:52:49 PM
Still unanswered is this question: does Mark Linett's reassembling of "Heroes & Villains Part 2"(heard in the 2-CD set and on a 7" vinyl single) have a factual basis, or is it a product of Mr.Linett's creativity?
Someone around these parts, or the Hoffman board, who interviewed D. Priore recently said that Priore said those were based on Brian's "notes" for a double-sided "Heroes" 45.
The 'notes' are written on the tape box, and are not in any way as detailed as has been assumed or stated.
So do you know what those notes say???
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November 07, 2011, 03:38:15 AM »
Quote from: desmondo on November 07, 2011, 02:25:44 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on November 06, 2011, 11:50:17 PM
Quote from: The Demon on November 06, 2011, 03:01:13 PM
Quote from: PhilCohen on November 06, 2011, 12:52:49 PM
Still unanswered is this question: does Mark Linett's reassembling of "Heroes & Villains Part 2"(heard in the 2-CD set and on a 7" vinyl single) have a factual basis, or is it a product of Mr.Linett's creativity?
Someone around these parts, or the Hoffman board, who interviewed D. Priore recently said that Priore said those were based on Brian's "notes" for a double-sided "Heroes" 45.
The 'notes' are written on the tape box, and are not in any way as detailed as has been assumed or stated.
So do you know what those notes say???
Nope. But I know a man who does. When people read "detailed notes" they assumed a sheet or two of paper with Brian's directions, whereas it's more a series of scribbles on a tape box.
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Re: SMiLE Sessions box set!
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on November 07, 2011, 03:38:15 AM
Quote from: desmondo on November 07, 2011, 02:25:44 AM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on November 06, 2011, 11:50:17 PM
Quote from: The Demon on November 06, 2011, 03:01:13 PM
Quote from: PhilCohen on November 06, 2011, 12:52:49 PM
Still unanswered is this question: does Mark Linett's reassembling of "Heroes & Villains Part 2"(heard in the 2-CD set and on a 7" vinyl single) have a factual basis, or is it a product of Mr.Linett's creativity?
Someone around these parts, or the Hoffman board, who interviewed D. Priore recently said that Priore said those were based on Brian's "notes" for a double-sided "Heroes" 45.
The 'notes' are written on the tape box, and are not in any way as detailed as has been assumed or stated.
So do you know what those notes say???
Nope. But I know a man who does. When people read "detailed notes" they assumed a sheet or two of paper with Brian's directions, whereas it's more a series of scribbles on a tape box.
Ahh - Ok thanks
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November 07, 2011, 04:37:50 AM »
Well it looks like I'm actually going to own 2 boxes - not through choice though. Amazon Canada clocked up my order so it quite literally is a buy one get one free scenario - the joys of international ordering...
I've also got the 2CD set on the way but from UK's Amazon. I get to enjoy opening Smile another 2 times yet ha ha
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November 07, 2011, 05:28:53 AM »
Quote from: Zander on November 07, 2011, 04:37:50 AM
Well it looks like I'm actually going to own 2 boxes - not through choice though. Amazon Canada clocked up my order so it quite literally is a buy one get one free scenario - the joys of international ordering...
I've also got the 2CD set on the way but from UK's Amazon. I get to enjoy opening Smile another 2 times yet ha ha
wow, so lucky
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According to someone who would know.
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Quote from: Chris Brown on November 06, 2011, 04:51:05 PM
As per AGD, the '68 vocal tapes are missing, and thus there would have been no way to present isolated "Truck Drivin' Man" vocals, which is too bad, because that would have been amazing to hear.
Even then, who says Dennis had his own track anyway?
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November 07, 2011, 12:56:46 PM »
Quote from: 37!ws on November 07, 2011, 12:01:35 PM
Quote from: Chris Brown on November 06, 2011, 04:51:05 PM
As per AGD, the '68 vocal tapes are missing, and thus there would have been no way to present isolated "Truck Drivin' Man" vocals, which is too bad, because that would have been amazing to hear.
Even then, who says Dennis had his own track anyway?
The new "Smile Sessions" products answer many questions and bring forth many new questions. That's the way it is destined to be. My quest for "Smile" material(which began with an early to mid 1980's bootleg vinyl release on a fake "Brother Records" label) has(barring the discovery of further material in the hands of private collections and/or bootleggers) come to an end. I'm enjoying "The Smile Sessions". If there are any further Beach Boys archival Beach Boys CD's(from other periods of the group's career), I'm receptive. I'll buy 'em.
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November 07, 2011, 01:35:52 PM »
Got my box today
What a beautiful thing, and I wasn't prepared for how big and heavy it is.
My box came from the US to the UK
I would like to believe it set sail from Plymouth Rock, back to Southhampton
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November 07, 2011, 01:52:38 PM »
Smile couldn't have been released in the 1990's because Brian was not mentally ready to consider the project. It couldn't come out without some involvement on his part.
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November 07, 2011, 02:22:28 PM »
(trying.....VERY HARD....to not throw a TWSS joke at Iron!)
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November 07, 2011, 02:34:20 PM »
Quote from: Iron Horse-Apples on November 07, 2011, 01:35:52 PM
Got my box today
What a beautiful thing, and I wasn't prepared for how big and heavy it is.
My box came from the US to the UK
I would like to believe it set sail from Plymouth Rock, back to Southhampton
You couldn't give Yanks enough money to sail back there!
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November 07, 2011, 02:37:48 PM »
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Quote from: Iron Horse-Apples on November 07, 2011, 01:35:52 PM
Got my box today
What a beautiful thing, and I wasn't prepared for how big and heavy it is.
My box came from the US to the UK
I would like to believe it set sail from Plymouth Rock, back to Southhampton
You couldn't give Yanks enough money to sail back there!
You'll come back to the fold one day. When Charles becomes King I fully expect him to officially unrecognise the Declaration Of
Treason
Independance.
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November 07, 2011, 02:40:14 PM »
There is actually some debate about whether the Declaration is legal....
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All roads lead to Kokomo. Exhaustive research in time travel has conclusively proven that there is no alternate universe WITHOUT Kokomo. It would've happened regardless.
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November 07, 2011, 02:46:06 PM »
Quote from: hypehat on November 07, 2011, 02:40:14 PM
There is actually some debate about whether the Declaration is legal....
Hell, I don't even recognise the Norman Invasion in 1066. Bring back King Eghead
(I'll stop derailing the king of SMiLE threads now)
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Can we have an American/Brit flame war in the Sandbox? This'll be fun.
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Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on November 07, 2011, 02:51:24 PM
Can we have an American/Brit flame war in the Sandbox? This'll be fun.
For example, why do the British misspell words such as color and realize?
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Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on November 07, 2011, 02:51:24 PM
Can we have an American/Brit flame war in the Sandbox? This'll be fun.
But we've got the unfair advantage of having had 1500 years to master the English language. Our barbed insults would leave you in tatters like the french at Agincourt.
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Norman bastards
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Yeah, well, I don't see Van Dyke and Brian Wilson deciding to write an album about Britains problems.
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Quote from: ontor pertawst on October 06, 2012, 06:05:25 PM
All roads lead to Kokomo. Exhaustive research in time travel has conclusively proven that there is no alternate universe WITHOUT Kokomo. It would've happened regardless.
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What is this "life" thing you speak of ?
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Syncopate it? In front of all these people?!
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Quote from: hypehat on November 07, 2011, 03:17:16 PM
Yeah, well, I don't see Van Dyke and Brian Wilson deciding to write an album about Britains problems.
Looter-essence "over and over, the looters light up the city" Thats a start for Brian and Van dyke.
The United States is having similar unrest right now with "occupy wallstreet" protests all over the nation.
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Quote from: Iron Horse-Apples on November 07, 2011, 03:09:50 PM
Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on November 07, 2011, 02:51:24 PM
Can we have an American/Brit flame war in the Sandbox? This'll be fun.
But we've got the unfair advantage of having had 1500 years to master the English language. Our barbed insults would leave you in tatters like the french at Agincourt.
We've got the Beach Boys and our friends got the Stones.
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Quote from: hypehat on November 07, 2011, 03:17:16 PM
Yeah, well, I don't see Van Dyke and Brian Wilson deciding to write an album about Britains problems.
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Absolutely champion
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Quote from: ontor pertawst on October 06, 2012, 06:05:25 PM
All roads lead to Kokomo. Exhaustive research in time travel has conclusively proven that there is no alternate universe WITHOUT Kokomo. It would've happened regardless.
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What is this "life" thing you speak of ?
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Syncopate it? In front of all these people?!
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