Flo & Eddie Keep It Warm

[guitarfool2002]

Say, are you really Jimmy Robinson?

Who is Jimmy Robinson? I'm not him and I don't get the reference. Remember I'm the same guy who didn't get the "Groundhog Day" reference with Sonny and Cher.

I'm not into getting personal with anyone, it's just a debate but at the same time I think if there is mis-information posted or whatever, it can be refined or corrected without wagging a finger at someone. I have no ill will here at all, but this topic is of great interest to me and I spent a lot of time on it within the past year...and am always seeking more info.

Check this google reference to June:  http://armandsrancho.blogspot.com/2010/02/june-fairchild.html
One of the comments is from Jimmy , who is/was an engineer/recordf producer.  Isn't that what you do? 

That's cool, I just checked that link! I don't recognize the name Jimmy Robinson but it looks like he knew June and worked in some nice studios at a great time to be working in a big studio. I did co-own a local studio/production company at one time, but it was mostly local artists and nothing we had done there (yet... ) made it big.

[Cam Mott]

I've probably said this before but sometimes if you ask directly the scene people, that have or we think they have given the impression the Boys were confrontational, if they witnessed any confrontations: the answer is no. Try it sometime if you get the chance. On the other hand they have witnessed Brian getting his way and doing whatever was his whim.

[bgas]

I've probably said this before but sometimes if you ask directly the scene people, that have or we think they have given the impression the Boys were confrontational, if they witnessed any confrontations: the answer is no. Try it sometime if you get the chance. On the other hand they have witnessed Brian getting his way and doing whatever was his whim.

And if you're going to do it, do it SOON!!  People aren't getting any younger, yaknow.  ( except Mikie) 
Just sayin...

[guitarfool2002]

I've probably said this before but sometimes if you ask directly the scene people, that have or we think they have given the impression the Boys were confrontational, if they witnessed any confrontations: the answer is no. Try it sometime if you get the chance. On the other hand they have witnessed Brian getting his way and doing whatever was his whim.

This goes to my earlier point about those accounts of this photo at the airport: There were *two* people who knew exactly what happened on that plane and the events leading up to it: Brian and Vosse. If Vosse doesn't mention the supposed conflict, then how did it get written into the story in such a way that people reading those accounts in various books will connect the idea of the Beach Boys being negative with Brian wanting to have a group photo taken at the airport? The quotes are there, yet Vosse who sat on the plane and was Brian's traveling companion that weekend doesn't mention what others have reported as the impetus behind that photo. At the end of it all, Brian in this case did get his way no matter how bizarre the request, where the pilot radioed the ground and most of the people showed up at the airport for a photo. That says a lot about the entire scene.

[Cam Mott]

It is just my guess that they they are exposed to same sorts of "history" we are. It is my experience that they will tell the sort of party line we learned but when you ask, it turns out they are not telling it from their direct experience. Please, try it yourselves if you get a chance, maybe it is only true of the few guys I've been able to ask.

[A Million Units In Jan!]

I've probably said this before but sometimes if you ask directly the scene people, that have or we think they have given the impression the Boys were confrontational, if they witnessed any confrontations: the answer is no. Try it sometime if you get the chance. On the other hand they have witnessed Brian getting his way and doing whatever was his whim.

Well, you have talked to Vosse then, Cam? He said there that wasn't any confrontation? Isn't he one of them who said that the Boys resistance is what led to the demise of SMiLE? Not being confrontational my friend, just asking 

[Cam Mott]

I've probably said this before but sometimes if you ask directly the scene people, that have or we think they have given the impression the Boys were confrontational, if they witnessed any confrontations: the answer is no. Try it sometime if you get the chance. On the other hand they have witnessed Brian getting his way and doing whatever was his whim.

Well, you have talked to Vosse then, Cam? He said there that wasn't any confrontation? Isn't he one of them who said that the Boys resistance is what led to the demise of SMiLE? Not being confrontational my friend, just asking 

Yes. That is my recollection. Did he say that?

[A Million Units In Jan!]

In the Vosse interview, he says 'A lot of the arguments that took place were between Brian and Mike. And a lot of people would go off into corners together-the sure sign that a group is in trouble'.

[Cam Mott]

In the Vosse interview, he says 'A lot of the arguments that took place were between Brian and Mike. And a lot of people would go off into corners together-the sure sign that a group is in trouble'.

Maybe the lesson is don't trust a 35 year old memory or don't trust a 60 year old's [me] memory.

[A Million Units In Jan!]

In the Vosse interview, he says 'A lot of the arguments that took place were between Brian and Mike. And a lot of people would go off into corners together-the sure sign that a group is in trouble'.

Maybe the lesson is don't trust a 35 year old memory or don't trust a 60 year old's [me] memory.

Maybe a little of both 

[Andrew G. Doe]

In the Vosse interview, he says 'A lot of the arguments that took place were between Brian and Mike. And a lot of people would go off into corners together-the sure sign that a group is in trouble'.

To place this in the context, Vosse said that about the sessions that took place after the band returned from their October/November European jaunt and the immediately subsequent US Thanksgiving tour - the late November onwards sessions.

[guitarfool2002]

Context is so important as mentioned above: Vosse's comments were not about the Michigan concert nor the plane ride, again he said it was a whim of Brian's to get that photo session together from the plane. He says nothing about conflict related to the Michigan show weekend he witnessed firsthand with Brian - not ruling everything out 100% but just pointing out that he does not mention a conflict with the Beach Boys. I'm still wondering where that notion came from.

To his Fusion article: piggybacking on the late-November onward session timeline, he does point a finger squarely and in no uncertain terms at Murry and certain members of the Wilson clan to paraphrase him about those who *did* openly challenge Brian and question his decisions, with Murry going so far as to question "Good Vibrations" even as it was becoming a major hit on several continents.

[Pretty Funky]

The call from the plane thing.

Unlikely IMO but a call prior to boarding could become a call from the plane many years later . (know what I mean?)