Flo & Eddie Keep It Warm

[guitarfool2002]

Just as an aside, I think June Fairchild is one of the most stunningly beautiful women of the 60's. Danny Hutton suggested her stage name Fairchild while they were dating, and June suggested his band name "Three Dog Night" in return...  Danny was a lucky man.

[Mikie]

OK, what's Jules Seigal's girlfriend's name (the witch)? Then we'll know everybody there.

Of course Brian's the hippest one there in white Levi's and tennis shoes.....

[guitarfool2002]

Guitarfool, did you find the details of how Brian "phoned" in the request on the airplane to Marilyn to have all those people assembled at the airport?

I guess maybe Priore's a little bit credible too these days since he did write four soft cover books on Smile and was selected to write a book to be included in the new Smile box set.  So I didn't mind transferring his viewpoints on the airport assemblage here. I know in the past his writing was questionable (to say the least) but I pretty much trust his judgement now.

There was no way for a passenger on a commercial flight to make a direct call from that flight to someone on the ground in 1966. It had to be done as I described in the earlier post, where the cockpit would radio the tower and they would in turn forward the message. But this was usually done only in emergencies. The technology that allowed passengers to dial and communicate directly from the airplane came some time later.

[bgas]

Just as an aside, I think June Fairchild is one of the most stunningly beautiful women of the 60's. Danny Hutton suggested her stage name Fairchild while they were dating, and June suggested his band name "Three Dog Night" in return...  Danny was a lucky man.

And June's original name was June Wilson, so she was fated to be at the airport for the photo. 
Gotta love her on that Kim Fowley Album cover!

[guitarfool2002]

Just as an aside, I think June Fairchild is one of the most stunningly beautiful women of the 60's. Danny Hutton suggested her stage name Fairchild while they were dating, and June suggested his band name "Three Dog Night" in return...  Danny was a lucky man.

And June's original name was June Wilson, so she was fated to be at the airport for the photo. 
Gotta love her on that Kim Fowley Album cover!

How about that Fowley shot?! Damn! I didn't realize she was one of the harem girl dancers in the "Can You Dig It" sequence from Head.

Also...after checking further, the whole deal with the call from the airplane is described in the Carlin book just as I described it before knowing it was in the Carlin book with that detail. Anyway, that's how it was done in 1966, no doubt about it.

[Mikie]

Guitarfool, do you have Peter Carlin's book on The Beach Boys?  Turn to page 108 and read the details there - about how the stewardess on the plane at first balked at Brian's request, then later delivered the message. Agreed that cockpit protocol dictated that pilots only radio the tower during emergencies - maybe there was another way, I don't know. I just want to say right here that I believe everything that I read.  

[guitarfool2002]

Guitarfool, do you have Peter Carlin's book on The Beach Boys?  Turn to page 108 and read the details there - about how the stewardess on the plane at first balked at Brian's request, then later delivered the message. Agreed that the cockpit would only radio the tower during emergencies - maybe there was another way, I don't know. I just want to say right here that I believe everything that I read. 

I said I just checked the book and there it was, but I wrote what I did before knowing Carlin went into detail about it. There was no other way for an airline passenger to communicate with someone on the ground in 1966, end of story. And having a civilian musician do this for non-emergency reasons was unusual for sure, but Brian did it.

[Mikie]

Dominic Priore essay - from pages 290-293 of "Look, Listen, Vibrate, Smile"

In late 1966, Brian flew to Michigan State University to sharpen up the group's performance of "Good Vibrations" and lend his production touch to the "Live" master tape. Although this session helped prepare the touring group for their invasion of Britain (see pages 24-47), the group's attitude gave Brian Wilson a notion to have the SMILE participants meet him at the airport for a group photo by Guy Webster. Brian phoned this congregation together on the spur of the moment, on the airplane back from Michigan. for he instinctively knew that his friendships, and the creative atmosphere surrounding the SMILE sessions, would be in jeopardy upon The Beach Boys' return. These group photos feature Van Dyke Parks, David Anderle, Danny Hutton, Mark Volman, Dean Torrence, Michael Vosse, Marilyn Wilson, Diane Rovell and others posed with Brian at Los ANgeles International Airport.

So Priore's detail of events pretty much aligns with Carlin's source(s), right Guitarfool?  Brian's reguest was made during the flight back from Michigan.

[bgas]

Dominic Priore essay - from pages 290-293 of "Look, Listen, Vibrate, Smile"

In late 1966, Brian flew to Michigan State University to sharpen up the group's performance of "Good Vibrations" and lend his production touch to the "Live" master tape. Although this session helped prepare the touring group for their invasion of Britain (see pages 24-47), the group's attitude gave Brian Wilson a notion to have the SMILE participants meet him at the airport for a group photo by Guy Webster. Brian phoned this congregation together on the spur of the moment, on the airplane back from Michigan. for he instinctively knew that his friendships, and the creative atmosphere surrounding the SMILE sessions, would be in jeopardy upon The Beach Boys' return. These group photos feature Van Dyke Parks, David Anderle, Danny Hutton, Mark Volman, Dean Torrence, Michael Vosse, Marilyn Wilson, Diane Rovell and others posed with Brian at Los ANgeles International Airport.

So Priore's detail of events pretty much aligns with Carlin's source(s), right Guitarfool?  Brian's reguest was made during the flight back from Michigan.

Except they didn't have phones on planes in 1966...  unless Mel Brooks was ALSO on the plane and Brian used his Shoephone!

[guitarfool2002]

Dominic Priore essay - from pages 290-293 of "Look, Listen, Vibrate, Smile"

In late 1966, Brian flew to Michigan State University to sharpen up the group's performance of "Good Vibrations" and lend his production touch to the "Live" master tape. Although this session helped prepare the touring group for their invasion of Britain (see pages 24-47), the group's attitude gave Brian Wilson a notion to have the SMILE participants meet him at the airport for a group photo by Guy Webster. Brian phoned this congregation together on the spur of the moment, on the airplane back from Michigan. for he instinctively knew that his friendships, and the creative atmosphere surrounding the SMILE sessions, would be in jeopardy upon The Beach Boys' return. These group photos feature Van Dyke Parks, David Anderle, Danny Hutton, Mark Volman, Dean Torrence, Michael Vosse, Marilyn Wilson, Diane Rovell and others posed with Brian at Los ANgeles International Airport.

So Priore's detail of events pretty much aligns with Carlin's source(s), right Guitarfool?  Brian's reguest was made during the flight back from Michigan.

Priore suggests the group's attitude was the catalyst behind those photos, and suggests because of that reaction Brian "instinctively" knew Smile and his whole circle of friends was in trouble after the "Boys" got home, so he wanted a photo.

I say...where is the proof of that? It reminds me too much of the reports given of the Beach Boys harassing Brian over Smile lyrics as a CBS News crew was filming for Inside Pop. Where is the proof? Surely not in Oppenheim's notes.

Again, where is the proof? And where did I suggest Brian didn't contact Marilyn? What I said was Volman's memory was that Marilyn organized it as s surprise gift for Brian, casting doubt on the origins of it as told earlier. And I said Brian would not have personally phoned anyone from an airplane in 1966, which is true.

[Mikie]

Mark Volman's recollections (with not much more detail about how/where Marilyn was asked to convey the message)

"I am not sure just how much I want to talk about this. I do recall spending many evenings up at Brian's house. One of my best friends was Danny Hutton and Danny was a really good friend of Brian's. We would go to the house with the sandbox and hang out. Brian would play tracks from his then unfinished album which he would eventually call "Smile." We would sit around a very long dining room table with headphones and .......... Listen, this stuff really has nothing to do with The Turtles and it always made me uncomfortable talking about it. It always made me feel like a groupie for Brian. I am glad Brian is doing better and his music was always exciting to watch metamorphose over time. I also felt that others were never given enough credit for his success. The photo happened because his wife Marilyn asked us all to come and surprise him at the airport. We went, someone shot a photo and it came out in a book. "Smile" must be available somewhere because I have many versions of it."

[Mikie]

Badman alludes to the day at the airport in his book on page 153.  Reasoning behind Marilyn's request is that "Brian feels insecure and needs to be loved". One of the Webster pictures was blown up and hung on Brian's living room wall on Laurel Way.

[Andrew G. Doe]

OK, what's Jules Seigal's girlfriend's name (the witch)? Then we'll know everybody there.

Chrissie Jolly.

[guitarfool2002]

OK, what's Jules Seigal's girlfriend's name (the witch)? Then we'll know everybody there.

Chrissie Jolly.

Noted! And added to the caption on page one.

[Mikie]

Hang on, I gotta e-mail three different authors of Beach Boys books to ask them if their sources for information are reliable in relation to how and why Brian contacted Marilyn to have a group of friends show up at L.A. airport to meet Brian Wilson.

Don't have my Paul Williams book "How Deep Is The Ocean" available and my other contact (Tim White) passed away, so I can't ask him.....

[Mikie]

Wait a damn minute!  I'm gonna e-mail Marilyn Wilson-Rutherford herself and see if she remembers the circumstances surrounding this historic day at L.A. Airport!    Yeah, that's the ticket!

[Andrew G. Doe]

Wait a damn minute!  I'm gonna e-mail Marilyn Wilson-Rutherford herself and see if she remembers the circumstances surrounding this historic day at L.A. Airport!    Yeah, that's the ticket!

While you're doing that, I'll ask Brian - that should cover all the bases nicely.

[guitarfool2002]

Check out the thread about  Labor Day Weekend 1961 and the various threads about early live Beach Boys shows for further examples of items written in BB's histories for years that turned out to be less accurate than assumed.

Mikie I have no issues at all with you but you started out in this thread posting inaccurate information about those photos, and isn't it worth correcting it if possible? If I'm wrong in my facts or my assumptions I'm hoping someone will answer with the correct information to set the record straight.

My issue is the way some authors jump to conclusions about various events to enhance a point of view - and when I see something that looks that way, I'll call it out - mostly because I took some of those jumps to be the facts, and that wasn't always the case.

There's no need to get sarcastic about it, but if you want to send those emails to those folks let us know what they have to say. 

[guitarfool2002]

This is one of the few photos of Brian on stage with the band during rehearsals for the Michigan shows: I suppose we could ask Al, Bruce, or Mike if there was any kind of disagreement that weekend which involved them being negative, or we could track down Vosse and ask him what happened since he would have been there too.

[bgas]

Check out the thread about  Labor Day Weekend 1961 and the various threads about early live Beach Boys shows for further examples of items written in BB's histories for years that turned out to be less accurate than assumed.

Mikie I have no issues at all with you but you started out in this thread posting inaccurate information about those photos, and isn't it worth correcting it if possible? If I'm wrong in my facts or my assumptions I'm hoping someone will answer with the correct information to set the record straight.

My issue is the way some authors jump to conclusions about various events to enhance a point of view - and when I see something that looks that way, I'll call it out - mostly because I took some of those jumps to be the facts, and that wasn't always the case.

There's no need to get sarcastic about it, but if you want to send those emails to those folks let us know what they have to say. 

Now you've done it!  NEVER show your soft side to mikie. He'll take that as an excuse to run roughshod all up your back side. 

Say, are you really Jimmy Robinson?

[A Million Units In Jan!]

IIRC it didn't have anything to do with the other guys being negative. I think it was just one of Brian's spur of the moment ideas.

[Cam Mott]

Here's what Vosse told me in '01: "This was pre-cellphone era and Brian got the notion after we boarded a flight... so this involved the captain of the aircraft etc. using cockpit phone so Brian could tell Marilyn to organize the shoot. A whim. The lighting was harsh, the gathered friends sleepy and irritated, so anyway we all look like Eurotrash criminals.”

"This is the trip during which Brian used his star power to get the pilots of the flight back to LA to call Marilyn or let him call her on their cabin phone to tell her to summon photographer guy webster and as many of his pals as she could round up, to meet the flight and take group photos at LAX.  She did, Guy was there (along with some unhappy campers who were unfortunate enough to answer the phone calls ) and photos were taken."

Me: The Velvet Steamroller

[guitarfool2002]

Check out the thread about  Labor Day Weekend 1961 and the various threads about early live Beach Boys shows for further examples of items written in BB's histories for years that turned out to be less accurate than assumed.

Mikie I have no issues at all with you but you started out in this thread posting inaccurate information about those photos, and isn't it worth correcting it if possible? If I'm wrong in my facts or my assumptions I'm hoping someone will answer with the correct information to set the record straight.

My issue is the way some authors jump to conclusions about various events to enhance a point of view - and when I see something that looks that way, I'll call it out - mostly because I took some of those jumps to be the facts, and that wasn't always the case.

There's no need to get sarcastic about it, but if you want to send those emails to those folks let us know what they have to say. 

Now you've done it!  NEVER show your soft side to mikie. He'll take that as an excuse to run roughshod all up your back side. 

Say, are you really Jimmy Robinson?

Who is Jimmy Robinson? I'm not him and I don't get the reference. Remember I'm the same guy who didn't get the "Groundhog Day" reference with Sonny and Cher.

I'm not into getting personal with anyone, it's just a debate but at the same time I think if there is mis-information posted or whatever, it can be refined or corrected without wagging a finger at someone. I have no ill will here at all, but this topic is of great interest to me and I spent a lot of time on it within the past year...and am always seeking more info.

[guitarfool2002]

Here's what Vosse told me in '01: "This was pre-cellphone era and Brian got the notion after we boarded a flight... so this involved the captain of the aircraft etc. using cockpit phone so Brian could tell Marilyn to organize the shoot. A whim. The lighting was harsh, the gathered friends sleepy and irritated, so anyway we all look like Eurotrash criminals.”

"This is the trip during which Brian used his star power to get the pilots of the flight back to LA to call Marilyn or let him call her on their cabin phone to tell her to summon photographer guy webster and as many of his pals as she could round up, to meet the flight and take group photos at LAX.  She did, Guy was there (along with some unhappy campers who were unfortunate enough to answer the phone calls ) and photos were taken."

Me: The Velvet Steamroller

Thanks Cam for the clarification - everything Vosse said lines up with what I've posted here, and I see no mention of Brian reacting to some kind of negativity he encountered with the Beach Boys in Michigan. I'm thinking perhaps Marilyn used the "surprise" request which Volman mentions to get them to the airport, since they didn't seem to happy to be there.

I submit: If that negativity from the band were as crucial to the story as Priore's account and others have written it, Vosse probably would have mentioned it in some way. Instead he described it as a "whim" of Brian's, and in fall of 1966 we know Brian was full of such "whims" to just go out and do something no matter how bizarre. So having a pilot radio the ground to contact his wife isn't too much of a stretch...considering this same man was considering having his friends walk into a bar and start an Old West-style barroom brawl as another whim.

[bgas]

Say, are you really Jimmy Robinson?

Who is Jimmy Robinson? I'm not him and I don't get the reference. Remember I'm the same guy who didn't get the "Groundhog Day" reference with Sonny and Cher.

I'm not into getting personal with anyone, it's just a debate but at the same time I think if there is mis-information posted or whatever, it can be refined or corrected without wagging a finger at someone. I have no ill will here at all, but this topic is of great interest to me and I spent a lot of time on it within the past year...and am always seeking more info.

Check this google reference to June:  http://armandsrancho.blogspot.com/2010/02/june-fairchild.html
One of the comments is from Jimmy , who is/was an engineer/recordf producer.  Isn't that what you do?