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Author Topic: What does Mike Love think of the band's late 60s and early 70s work?  (Read 7976 times)
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« Reply #25 on: August 30, 2013, 07:12:03 PM »

All through that period, when he had the beard and the robes, he was secretly biding his time till he could don a baseball hat and Hawaiian shirt and write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda.

He is a truly evil person, far worse than Hitler IMO, and I'm glad someone finally start a thread where we could discuss this.


LOL Mike is a Monster.

At least Hitler killed Hitler. Mike Love never did anything nearly as good.
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« Reply #26 on: August 30, 2013, 07:23:51 PM »

Once again the John Cena of rock n roll has reared its ugly head.

Cena is actually a better lyricist than post-1973 Mike Love though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVqtMx1TlGA
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« Reply #27 on: August 30, 2013, 07:33:33 PM »

Though I mentioned I didn't like how they made Brian look in the era, in the new Record Collector Mike and Al are both very positive about the 1967-73 period.

Yeah...Friends is the only record I've heard Mike gripe about...Bruce too for that matter.
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« Reply #28 on: August 30, 2013, 07:54:57 PM »

He said All This Is That is a favorite of his, so he must have some positive thoughts about the period. Of course, he's almost certainly more proud of the mid-60s, when The Beach Boys were one of the biggest bands in the world.

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« Reply #29 on: August 31, 2013, 01:55:28 AM »

Once again the John Cena of rock n roll has reared its ugly head.

 LOL

Not as far fetched as it seems!



Which means this little pipe bomb frm Mr. Wirestone :

"Yes, we all know that Mike was in the forefront of experimentation with the Beach Boys. His genre hopping and dedication to following his muse at the expense of public adulation or sales set an example for fellow trailblazers like Captain Beefheart."

is the BB message board equivalent of  this.

http://youtu.be/gujrv_HanGU

Or this.

http://youtu.be/stlJGgvvdqc

Or this.

http://youtu.be/fqn5LDu397w
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« Reply #30 on: August 31, 2013, 06:02:43 AM »

Though I mentioned I didn't like how they made Brian look in the era, in the new Record Collector Mike and Al are both very positive about the 1967-73 period.

Yeah...Friends is the only record I've heard Mike gripe about...Bruce too for that matter.

I've heard Bruce moaning about Friends, wasn't aware Mike had whinged about it too. What exactly did he say? Perhaps they don't like it much because they're both barely on it...
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« Reply #31 on: August 31, 2013, 06:20:03 AM »

In general, I presume that Mike Love is not an albums person. He probably has fond memories of individual songs like "Do It Again" or "All This Is That", maybe even "Student Demonstration Time". Grin Other than that I reckon that touring must've been a bigger highlight for someone like Mike around that time. I mean, how many lead vocals did he get to sing on So Tough? Two, right?
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« Reply #32 on: August 31, 2013, 06:33:36 AM »

Mike Love's favorite moment was dancing like an ugly woman and adjusting everyone's mics during "You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone".
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« Reply #33 on: August 31, 2013, 06:44:02 AM »

In general, I presume that Mike Love is not an albums person. He probably has fond memories of individual songs like "Do It Again" or "All This Is That", maybe even "Student Demonstration Time". Grin Other than that I reckon that touring must've been a bigger highlight for someone like Mike around that time. I mean, how many lead vocals did he get to sing on So Tough? Two, right?

Three.
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« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2013, 08:50:39 AM »

This era is when Mike found his post-surf, post-car, post-teenage lifestyle subjects -- subjects he would continue to write about through SIP:

1) Ecological warnings
2) TM
3) Nostalgia with a purpose (that is, let's not just remember the good old times, but let's re-create them)

1968-73 is when Mike emerged from Brian's shadow and found his "mature" voice.
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« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2013, 11:49:55 AM »

Once again the John Cena of rock n roll has reared its ugly head.

Cena is actually a better lyricist than post-1973 Mike Love though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVqtMx1TlGA

I was thinking in terms of being the front man and guy who has the good guy image, yet people dont buy it, and like to hate him. Perhaps coming off as a bit of a phony to many. Yet Mike has been a huge part of their success and best stage performer they ever had. John Cena has been the ggood guy face of wwr and brings in the most money. But he gets booed as much as anyone  and social media isnt kind to him either Smiley
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"Over the years, I've been accused of not supporting our new music from this era (67-73) and just wanting to play our hits. That's complete b.s......I was also, as the front man, the one promoting these songs onstage and have the scars to show for it."
Mike Love autobiography (pg 242-243)
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« Reply #36 on: August 31, 2013, 12:47:56 PM »

Once again the John Cena of rock n roll has reared its ugly head.

Cena is actually a better lyricist than post-1973 Mike Love though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVqtMx1TlGA

I was thinking in terms of being the front man and guy who has the good guy image, yet people dont buy it, and like to hate him. Perhaps coming off as a bit of a phony to many. Yet Mike has been a huge part of their success and best stage performer they ever had. John Cena has been the ggood guy face of wwr and brings in the most money. But he gets booed as much as anyone  and social media isnt kind to him either Smiley

I think the real similarity is that they've been overhyped up, by the WWE in Cena's case and by Mike Love in Love's case to the point where "hardcore fans" dislike them.  They're both talented in their fields and work hard but aren't as good as some others in their field, and generally cater to the casual masses instead of the hardcore fan in terms of their performances.  As a result, they basically have been doing the same old routine for so long that it's been overexposed to the hardcore fan and they hate them for it.  The hardcore fan would rather hear some more obscure songs or watch CM Punk and Brian Danielson wrestle a 5-star classic match.
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« Reply #37 on: August 31, 2013, 01:08:12 PM »

Though I mentioned I didn't like how they made Brian look in the era, in the new Record Collector Mike and Al are both very positive about the 1967-73 period.

Yeah...Friends is the only record I've heard Mike gripe about...Bruce too for that matter.
Mike was upset because he had written a whole set of lyrics for "Passing By".  Grin
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« Reply #38 on: August 31, 2013, 08:49:09 PM »

Once again the John Cena of rock n roll has reared its ugly head.

Cena is actually a better lyricist than post-1973 Mike Love though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVqtMx1TlGA

I was thinking in terms of being the front man and guy who has the good guy image, yet people dont buy it, and like to hate him. Perhaps coming off as a bit of a phony to many. Yet Mike has been a huge part of their success and best stage performer they ever had. John Cena has been the ggood guy face of wwr and brings in the most money. But he gets booed as much as anyone  and social media isnt kind to him either Smiley

Fans don't hate John Cena because they are the wrestling fan equivalent of  Brianistas. They hate the character because he has been doing it for so long. Just like the WCW faithful's reaction to Hulk Hogan  prior to his heel turn.  By he early to mid 90's, the fans were starting to boo Hogan (especially in Ric Flair/4 Horsemen country).  It was only the heel turn and the nWo storyline that reinvigorated Hogan's career as a box office draw.

Fro: That is also a very good observation.  Cena, however much we jokingly compare him to ML, carries himself a little differently than ML.
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« Reply #39 on: August 31, 2013, 09:16:00 PM »

I vote this thread takes a sharp detour from Cena back to the original topic.
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« Reply #40 on: September 01, 2013, 12:51:06 AM »

I vote this thread takes a sharp detour from Cena back to the original topic.

66 - 73 was the Beach Boys attitude era when Mike rapped about them singing in the nude and cussed out the audience since no one could hear him . Since the late 70s, Mike Love has lead the Beach Boys into the PG era. Wheeeeeeeeeen....
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"Over the years, I've been accused of not supporting our new music from this era (67-73) and just wanting to play our hits. That's complete b.s......I was also, as the front man, the one promoting these songs onstage and have the scars to show for it."
Mike Love autobiography (pg 242-243)
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« Reply #41 on: September 01, 2013, 07:44:25 AM »

LOL Mike is a Monster.

Actually all monsters are Mikes, but as it happens, Mike Love isn't one of them. Shocked


Plus, Mike wrote what I consider to be the best song on 15 Big Ones called Everyone's in Love With You.

I'm not sure it's the best song on the album, but certainly the most earpleasing recording on it.
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« Reply #42 on: September 01, 2013, 05:10:03 PM »

LOL Mike is a Monster.

Actually all monsters are Mikes, but as it happens, Mike Love isn't one of them. Shocked


Plus, Mike wrote what I consider to be the best song on 15 Big Ones called Everyone's in Love With You.

I'm not sure it's the best song on the album, but certainly the most earpleasing recording on it.

Not saying much. I am not a big fan of 15 Big Ones. But its ironic that there are two Beach Boys albums that I think Mike exclusively wrote the best original song IMO. 15 Big Ones and Summer in Paradise. Also, the two worst Beach Boys albums IMO. Smiley
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"Over the years, I've been accused of not supporting our new music from this era (67-73) and just wanting to play our hits. That's complete b.s......I was also, as the front man, the one promoting these songs onstage and have the scars to show for it."
Mike Love autobiography (pg 242-243)
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