What does Mike Love think of the band's late 60s and early 70s work?

[Smile4ever]

Does Love personally dislike this period, or does he simply prefer to "give the masses what they want"?

[Iron Horse-Apples]

All through that period, when he had the beard and the robes, he was secretly biding his time till he could don a baseball hat and Hawaiian shirt and write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda.

He is a truly evil person, far worse than Hitler IMO, and I'm glad someone finally start a thread where we could discuss this.

[drbeachboy]

All through that period, when he had the beard and the robes, he was secretly biding his time till he could don a baseball hat and Hawaiian shirt and write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda.

He is a truly evil person, far worse than Hitler IMO, and I'm glad someone finally start a thread where we could discuss this.

Mike is a Monster.

[rogerlancelot]

All through that period, when he had the beard and the robes, he was secretly biding his time till he could don a baseball hat and Hawaiian shirt and write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda.

He is a truly evil person, far worse than Hitler IMO, and I'm glad someone finally start a thread where we could discuss this.

Mike is a Monster.

He may not be a monster but he is definitely a very weak songwriter.

[drbeachboy]

All through that period, when he had the beard and the robes, he was secretly biding his time till he could don a baseball hat and Hawaiian shirt and write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda.

He is a truly evil person, far worse than Hitler IMO, and I'm glad someone finally start a thread where we could discuss this.

Mike is a Monster.

He may not be a monster but he is definitely a very weak songwriter.

For the time period we are discussing, he was fine in my opinion.

[Mike's Beard]

Other than thinking 'Till I Die was depressing I've never read or heard anything where Mike gives nothing but praise for the group's output from this period.

[leggo of my ego]

Mike thinks the work of this time period should have made him a lot more money than it did 

[rogerlancelot]

All through that period, when he had the beard and the robes, he was secretly biding his time till he could don a baseball hat and Hawaiian shirt and write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda.

He is a truly evil person, far worse than Hitler IMO, and I'm glad someone finally start a thread where we could discuss this.

Mike is a Monster.

He may not be a monster but he is definitely a very weak songwriter.

For the time period we are discussing, he was fine in my opinion.

I was just listening to "It's A Beautiful Day" and "Summer In Paradise (Live)" from the box set and they are terrible. Also I was referring to this:
"write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda."
No apologies.

[Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again]

All through that period, when he had the beard and the robes, he was secretly biding his time till he could don a baseball hat and Hawaiian shirt and write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda.

He is a truly evil person, far worse than Hitler IMO, and I'm glad someone finally start a thread where we could discuss this.

Mike is a Monster.

He may not be a monster but he is definitely a very weak songwriter.

Um what?

Let me create an alternate reality where it's your name on some of the most earth shatteringly awesome hit songs in history and tell you you're a weak songwriter!

[SurfRiderHawaii]

All through that period, when he had the beard and the robes, he was secretly biding his time till he could don a baseball hat and Hawaiian shirt and write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda.

He is a truly evil person, far worse than Hitler IMO, and I'm glad someone finally start a thread where we could discuss this.

Mike is a Monster.

He may not be a monster but he is definitely a very weak songwriter.

With "Sound of Free" on the box, gotta give Mike his due. In his prime, he wrote so great lyrics.

[DonnyL]

He seems to like the music from the era, but he'd probably rather discuss the more successful recordings they've made. Mike seems to make a distinction between artistic and commercial, so he probably views the period as artistically successful, but maybe indulgent ... or perhaps thinks of these records as 'failures' in the sense that they were experiments that were not fully embraced by the general public.

I think Mike was way more involved in these records than maybe some think he was. I mean, the guy co-wrote the Wild Honey album ... and seems to have positive things to say about it.

[drbeachboy]

All through that period, when he had the beard and the robes, he was secretly biding his time till he could don a baseball hat and Hawaiian shirt and write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda.

He is a truly evil person, far worse than Hitler IMO, and I'm glad someone finally start a thread where we could discuss this.

Mike is a Monster.

He may not be a monster but he is definitely a very weak songwriter.

For the time period we are discussing, he was fine in my opinion.

I was just listening to "It's A Beautiful Day" and "Summer In Paradise (Live)" from the box set and they are terrible. Also I was referring to this:
"write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda."
No apologies.

I was talking late 60's, early 70's. You're talking late 70's and early 90's. Big, big difference, there.

[rogerlancelot]

I just listened to "Sound Of Free" and typed the lyrics and they ARE cool. Check them out:

Children of light in darkness all around
We are all born without sight and shackled to the ground
Drawn always toward the sound of free
Free

I pray my love will make you come and see
I know the ways so come and follow me
And always hear the sound of free
Free

The mountains are high
The valley so low
I know the way through
Come, baby, listen to me
I'll whisper the sounds of free
Free, free, free, come on, listen to me
As high as the sky
As deep as the sea
Sound of free, listen, listen

I was referring to those other 2 songs I mentioned which name check past glories. But then there is the wonderful turd known as "Smart Girls" on the flip side of things...Ouch!

[Nicko1234]

Does Love personally dislike this period, or does he simply prefer to "give the masses what they want"?

In terms of the live shows it is absolutely about giving the crowd what they want. Which is why they will play the 'meat and potatoes' setlists at the outdoor shows and the longer sets in theatres.

[pixletwin]

He draws some interesting images with those lyrics... almost like some of Rick Wright's Pink Floyd lyrics.

[Mike's Beard]

With "Sound of Free" on the box, gotta give Mike his due. In his prime, he wrote so great lyrics.

I had a classic exchange with someone on the Hoffman board a couple of months back. A poster (who at times could give OSD a run for his money) was claiming that Mike has never written a good song without Brian. I supplied a list of good/great songs Mike has wrote/co-wrote without the involvment of BW, including Sound of Free. The guy posted a snarky reply that unless Mike had been suing for songwriting credits again he didn't have a credit for Sound of Free. I was more than happy to upload an image of the orignal 45 which clearly displayed the names D. Wilson - M. Love under the song title. Oddly enough, the guy then suddenly shut up on the subject, funny that.

[rogerlancelot]

I like Rick's lyrics like "Paintbox" and "Remember A Day" and can see the comparisons. On the other hand, the second verse of SOF seems to suspiciously have the "Manson" touch or maybe I'm just stretching it a bit.

[Smile4ever]

All through that period, when he had the beard and the robes, he was secretly biding his time till he could don a baseball hat and Hawaiian shirt and write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda.

He is a truly evil person, far worse than Hitler IMO, and I'm glad someone finally start a thread where we could discuss this.

My thoughts exactly.

Hitler, Bin Laden, Mike Love. My own personal "axis of evil."

For the record, I'm joking.

[bossaroo]

Mike was still harping on the Friends album during C50 interviews.

[Magic Transistor Radio]

Once again the John Cena of rock n roll has reared its ugly head.

Mike has said before that he always liked the musical changes. But he didn't like how Capitol Records continued to promote them as a surfing group. During this time Mike wrote Let the Wind Blow, Anna Lee the Healer, All I Wanna Do and Big Sur. (with a little help from his friends). Even after Endless Summer, how clear is it that he was or wasn't the leader in pushing them to a more oldies route? Didn't they ALL agree to play more oldies live??? Plus, Mike wrote what I consider to be the best song on 15 Big Ones called Everyone's in Love With You.

[Wrightfan]

Once again the John Cena of rock n roll has reared its ugly head.

 

[Wirestone]

Once again the John Cena of rock n roll has reared its ugly head.

Mike has said before that he always liked the musical changes. But he didn't like how Capitol Records continued to promote them as a surfing group. During this time Mike wrote Let the Wind Blow, Anna Lee the Healer, All I Wanna Do and Big Sur. (with a little help from his friends). Even after Endless Summer, how clear is it that he was or wasn't the leader in pushing them to a more oldies route? Didn't they ALL agree to play more oldies live??? Plus, Mike wrote what I consider to be the best song on 15 Big Ones called Everyone's in Love With You.

Yes, we all know that Mike was in the forefront of experimentation with the Beach Boys. His genre hopping and dedication to following his muse at the expense of public adulation or sales set an example for fellow trailblazers like Captain Beefheart.

[bluesno1fann]

All through that period, when he had the beard and the robes, he was secretly biding his time till he could don a baseball hat and Hawaiian shirt and write songs which quote or paraphrase Fun Fun Fun or Help Me Rhonda.

He is a truly evil person, far worse than Hitler IMO, and I'm glad someone finally start a thread where we could discuss this.

My thoughts exactly.

Hitler, Bin Laden, Mike Love. My own personal "axis of evil."

For the record, I'm joking.

Or even worse:
Stalin, Pol Pot, Mike Love. The true evils of history!
 

[RubberSoul13]

I think it has a lot to with the fact that Mike was lead VOCALIST on probably about 75% of the songs put out from 1962-1965...vs maybe 30% of the songs from 1966-1973

[MBE]

Though I mentioned I didn't like how they made Brian look in the era, in the new Record Collector Mike and Al are both very positive about the 1967-73 period.