Gee & H&V intro

[grooveblaster]

When was Gee first placed at the beginning of H&V? What is the earliest point in the SMiLE timeline that it was used at the beginning of the song and not within the song?   Thanks.

[The Shift]

Best of my knowledge it was for the 2004 BW SMiLE tour, so arranged 2003.

[grooveblaster]

Best of my knowledge it was for the 2004 BW SMiLE tour, so arranged 2003.

That is what I thought also. There is a jan/feb '67 version that has it placed after the cantina section.

[Bicyclerider]

The session tapes are pretty clear that gee preceded the H&V "sections"  - after the sing Gee you can hear one of the Boys go into the next part, "dit dit dit, heroes and villains."

[grooveblaster]

When was 'you're under arrest!' recorded?

[Paul2010]

When was 'you're under arrest!' recorded?

I think at the same time as the Cantina vocals.

Best of my knowledge it was for the 2004 BW SMiLE tour, so arranged 2003.

That is what I thought also. There is a jan/feb '67 version that has it placed after the cantina section.

If you are referring to the TSS bonus track, I actually thought that was a compilation of (rough/early) mono mixes from that time, and not one edit. So it is an edit of a mono mix of the verse and other sections, one of the cantina, a rough edit of HAV part 2 sections, and one of the fade. I don't think the order of those mixes is vintage. The order of the various part 2 sections is vintage, I believe.

[grooveblaster]

When was 'you're under arrest!' recorded?

I think at the same time as the Cantina vocals.

Best of my knowledge it was for the 2004 BW SMiLE tour, so arranged 2003.

That is what I thought also. There is a jan/feb '67 version that has it placed after the cantina section.

If you are referring to the TSS bonus track, I actually thought that was a compilation of (rough/early) mono mixes from that time, and not one edit. So it is an edit of a mono mix of the verse and other sections, one of the cantina, a rough edit of HAV part 2 sections, and one of the fade. I don't think the order of those mixes is vintage. The order of the various part 2 sections is vintage, I believe.

I'm referring to track 24 on Disc 4 - Heroes and Villains: Early Version Outtakes. Thanks for the clarification.

[grooveblaster]

ok, i copied this order from another thread:

1. Normal first verse although the lead vocal sounds quite laid back ( more than normal

2. Whistle/Dum Dum section

3. My Children were raised accapella with Often wise/piano section

4. Wordless vocal verse

5. In the Cantina

6. How I love my girl (Gee)

7. Dit Dit accapella H&V with handclaps and the one/two note bass line

8. Heroes & Villains accapella - with the clip clop thing

9 False Barnyard with hum dum vocals

So you are saying that 1-5 was a test mixdown and the 6-9 are a compilation of H&V Part 2 bits?

[Paul2010]

ok, i copied this order from another thread:

1. Normal first verse although the lead vocal sounds quite laid back ( more than normal

2. Whistle/Dum Dum section

3. My Children were raised accapella with Often wise/piano section

4. Wordless vocal verse

5. In the Cantina

6. How I love my girl (Gee)

7. Dit Dit accapella H&V with handclaps and the one/two note bass line

8. Heroes & Villains accapella - with the clip clop thing

9 False Barnyard with hum dum vocals

So you are saying that 1-5 was a test mixdown and the 6-9 are a compilation of H&V Part 2 bits?

All the sections can be found on UM17.
1-3 are a mixdown (including "at 3 score and 5", with the word "at" inserted from a different source since it's missing on UM17).
4 is taken from another Heroes And Villains mono mix tape on UM17.
5 is also on UM17, called "vocal overdub take unknown".
6-8 is a mono mixdown.
9 is an alternate mix of the fade.

[grooveblaster]

ok, i copied this order from another thread:

1. Normal first verse although the lead vocal sounds quite laid back ( more than normal

2. Whistle/Dum Dum section

3. My Children were raised accapella with Often wise/piano section

4. Wordless vocal verse

5. In the Cantina

6. How I love my girl (Gee)

7. Dit Dit accapella H&V with handclaps and the one/two note bass line

8. Heroes & Villains accapella - with the clip clop thing

9 False Barnyard with hum dum vocals

So you are saying that 1-5 was a test mixdown and the 6-9 are a compilation of H&V Part 2 bits?

great thanks for all of your help