BRI are blankety-blank losers.  Tired of this BS.

I dont think you're an asshole either, Cam.  I just think your desire to give Mike his due has gotten out of hand to the point that you give him credit he doesn't deserve AND you try to discredit Brian in the process.  Just my opinion.  But I really don't think you're an asshole.  You take a lot more abuse than just about anyone in BB fandom without getting nasty back, and I commend you for that.

You're still wrong about Mike though.   

I'm so fuckin' tired of the Brian-bashing, revisionist crap that takes place on the Boards these days.  Mike's not the devil, but he ain't the saint Cam's been telling stories about for ten years either.  Why is it hip to downplay Brian's role these days? What a twisted view; guess he's just lucky Mike let him come along for the ride.

Perhaps so; that could ell be the case; but even if those are the circumstances I got the impression that Mike's arguments could have been much better presented.  Maybe not- maybe there was just no meat on the bone, but along with everything else I thought Mike's guys did a poor job of showing how he had been damaged.

Lawsuits can be rooted in a lot of things- personal enmity, righteous indignation, protection of rights, or just plain ol' money.  I'd like to give Mike or any of the guys the benefit of the doubt whenever possible, and- with apologies to the esteemed Dr. Tim and others here- blame it all on lawyers.  But who knows what was at the root of this one?

At the very least, Mike's lawyers could have filed an opposition to Sanctuary's motion.  "We really meant to oppose it" doesnt fly with most judges.

So why don't people think that Chilton and Bell were pervs because of "Thirteen"?

You beat me to the punch, Joel5001.

Anyway, no, he is a junior. And that isn't early to be recruited--top players are literally recruited from the time they reach their teens, and sometimes before. The rumors I have heard have been UCLA, Duke or Oregon, but I don't know if he's decided. (I'm not a member to scout.com--do they show college choices to non-members?)

I'm not a member either, so I can only see the public areas of the site.  However, I don't think they can commit to a school until some time in their senior year.  I know there is a specific day they can sign letters of intent, but I'm not sure when it is.

The Wilson-Love clan is certainly a family of high-achievers.

Here's his Scout.com profile.

http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=1151760

Hard for me to pick a favorite between the mono and stereo.  Very different.  I was only familiar with the Stereo until about a week ago, so the mono version sounds a little foreign to me.  Its growing on me though, and it's nice to hear something old be "new" again.

If not agreeing with Ian is the same as provoking him, yes.

No, I mean the patronizing little semantic games like "I don't see how feeding the hungry is a sin."  You knew what he meant, but you ignored the meaning and nit-picked at the phrasing.  That's provoking, not disagreeing.

That's trying to get someone to be as clear as possible about the point they are making.

Charles, have you ever admitted you were wrong about anything?

Yes-- as an example, since we've chosen to invoke the name of Laurie, I admitted I was too harsh with her.  I let my anger over her actions overshadow the point I was making. 

As much as I hate to even talk about that incident. I think that your quote above illustrates the problem.  "Her actions" were the problem?  You were only making a point?

Anyway, I can let this drop now.  God Bless You!! 

If not agreeing with Ian is the same as provoking him, yes.

No, I mean the patronizing little semantic games like "I don't see how feeding the hungry is a sin."  You knew what he meant, but you ignored the meaning and nit-picked at the phrasing.  That's provoking, not disagreeing.

That's trying to get someone to be as clear as possible about the point they are making.

Charles, have you ever admitted you were wrong about anything?

If not agreeing with Ian is the same as provoking him, yes.

No, I mean the patronizing little semantic games like "I don't see how feeding the hungry is a sin."  You knew what he meant, but you ignored the meaning and nit-picked at the phrasing.  That's provoking, not disagreeing.

Chuck, I think you clearly go out of your way to provoke Ian.  Anyone who has read the board for the last year can see the pattern.

Anyone else like to introduce non-Beach Boy fans to their music using non-stereotypical fare? I have a compilation I did of post-Smile tapes through Sunflower that I've been using for years, but now I did a new one using the more rootsy sounds of (mostly) the Chaplin/Fataar era. I had a great time playing it for a friend of mine who is pretty familiar with stuff through Sunflower and of Love You, but not this material much. I had him thoroughly confused, and I look forward to messing with the minds of my other friends as I barrage them with Beach Boys from every angle.

Track list of this "double album" (on a single disc):

Side One:
I'm Going Your Way
Trader
Hold On, Dear Brother
Steamboat
Marcella

Side Two:
We Got Love
Big Sur (Holland version, edited out beginning and end to sound good alone)
Here She Comes
Funky Pretty
Make It Good

Side Three:
You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone
Long Promised Road
Leaving This Town
All This is That

Side Four:
Sail On, Sailor
Feel Flows
Only With You
Cuddle Up

Excellent comp.  I might burn a copy just for myself.  Consider throwing "Hard Times" on there.  That one really confuses people.

For my next trick, I'm going to turn Jeff and Joel into JoelMason2006.

The mind boggles!!!!!!  We will rule the world.

No, its because you're using the same IP as your previous account and the board automatically links them together.

Strange then that it took it a while to actually happen.  Is it a process that is only run every few weeks?  I just know that I started making a few snide remarks about Chuck (as I can't seem to resist doing), and shortly thereafter my old deleted account was linked to the new one.  I guess I put 2 and 2 together and got 5.

Why would you want a mono version of Who's Next?  More to the point I can't find any record of there even being a mono version. The last Who LP issued in mono was Direct Hits in the UK and Magic Bus in the US.

Absolutely correct.  I must have been thinking about the discussion of "Wont Get Fooled Again" when I typed Who's Next.  It's actually Who Sell Out (the Doc Ebbetts UK mono mix) that I just got a copy of.

OK, without going back into history, you all know at some point I deleted my account here.  When I reversed this decision, I went back as my own name.  At that time I checked and confirmed that the system saw my old account and my new account as two separate accounts and the reset post counts confirmed this.  I was checking something out earlier and saw one of my own posts from the old account --- linked to my new one, even though I was still showing the new count settings.  Sure enough, you search on my history and the two accounts are now combined as one. 

Anyone know how this happens?  Nothing too critical, I am just curious.

This happens because Chuck likes to show that he's a smart boy and you can't put anything over on him.  It happened to me also.

Just when you thought it was safe to go in the water.

Not trying to start sh*t, I REALLY hope God has a plan for this.

On another note, I try to separate musicians from their music, but I have a real hard time with Townshend, and even with the Who following his legal troubles.  I just got a great needle-drop of the mono "Who's Next", and I'm having trouble enjoying it.  Do we just enjoy the art, and try not to think about the creator?

Just now read this thread.  Some of you know that I do not consider myself to be a religious person, but I have to say that I hope Jeff is right regarding the sovereignty of God.  I hope that there really is a reason that GWB is still allowed to inflict such evil on the world.  I've grown hopeless at times over the last few years as I see the death and destruction caused by Bush for the monetary gain of his cronies, and the sad erosion of our Constitution at the hands of an Administration that doesn't believe in separation of powers. If God has a plan for this, I sincerely hope that we see the good come from it soon. 

I never believed in Satan until Bush was elected again.

"Whitney Houston does crack! look, she looks funny, too! Look!" what the f*** is that?  How you can laugh at that is beyond me.  She'll probably be dead soon, and she's got kids growing up in a house with a crackhead and a dad who beats the crackhead up in front of them.  that's really fodaing hilarious. 

 

That's GOLD, Ron!!!!  GOLD!!!!!!!!

Yeah, just on a musical level, I think its clearly the best thing he's done in ages.  Maybe since Ragged Glory.

Neil's stance is commendable, but how many times do we have to hear that our president is probably the most inept man to take office? We already KNOW. There's nothing we can do about that now, obviously a good portion of the American population wanted him in office. Oh well. We deal as best we can.

WE know, but obviously many out there don't get it.  I think everyone should speak out as loudly, and as often as possible.  Silence is at least tacit approval.

Classic performances?  Vocally?  Is the the Christmas album that came out last year?  With the shiny cover?  I'm confused; my version didn't have the classic performances.

Googling brought me to this page from the Songwriter's Hall of Fame.  It lists a lot of BW compositions I've never heard of.  Does anyone know if these compositions have to demo'd to be copywrited?  If so, does that mean demos of these songs are all on file somewhere?

http://www.songwritershalloffame.org/discog_detail.asp?exhibitId=186