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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My Idol Dennis Wilson on: September 21, 2017, 11:05:03 PM
Just salvaged some pics from photobucket and reupped


Dennis, Shawn and Gage in a stroller.
Sorry about the poor picture quality - had to point a camera at the pic in an early edition of Denny Remembered.

Sad pic of the three of them (was found on a facebook group)



Shawn, Gage and Dennis from People Magazine's early 84 article on Dennis' death (cropped from their offical scan - http://archive.people.com/people/archive/jpgs/19840116/19840116-750-26.jpg).





Geez she really does look alot like Mike in the face, guess I never paid too much attention to it. That other photo with Mike and Shawn must of been pretty awkward, can only imagine. What a strange situation.

If there's something that could contribute to a person indulging in substances and other unfortunate issues, I imagine that denying paternity would be a prime example of something that could mess said offspring up.  It's actually unfathomably rotten to me.  There's little to no doubt from the resemblance.  In fact, I'm sure with DNA testing it could be proven today.

On the other hand, we have those photos from 1988 from backstage where everybody is interacting together. Could it simply have just been a case of "tough love" on behalf of Mike? I really can't understand it, but it just makes me sad to think about.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: September 18, 2017, 06:57:01 PM
In this video, at 3:15, Al is holding a sheet of paper with lyrics for Run James Run: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgFF3n6xpM8



I wonder if there's a version with Al singing it.

Amazing detective work!
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: September 18, 2017, 11:55:47 AM
This song COOKS. I friggin' LOVE it. Listening it to the 3rd time in a row!

It's more like the TLOS/Scott Bennett style production, which is such a breath of fresh air compared to Joverproduction Thomas. I do hear few odd vocal processing artifacts, like on the word "burn", but they're minimal.

Please, more more more like this!

This might be my fave new Brian track in a decade.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys recognition in public in 2017 on: September 16, 2017, 04:16:53 PM
I saw David Marks at the post office a few months ago, and after he finished his transaction, I briefly said hello to him. I don't think he was expecting that anyone would recognize him.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Which is better: That Lucky Old Sun or That's Why God Made the Radio? on: September 10, 2017, 07:25:23 AM
Guys. Do you think 'Wall of Fosketts' should be my new name?

Not just on this board, but actually in real life?

How about the Wally George of Fosketts?

Or is that the pot calling the Foskettle black?
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Blondie Facebook Q&A on: September 09, 2017, 12:40:30 PM
I wonder what are the skeletons he referred to in relation to Carl?

I interpreted it as "skeletons" with the band, not Carl in particular.

He answered some more questions today but can't forward on my device. Nice comment about Dennis, and funny comment about Brian. Said he'd continue to answer questions.

Has Blondie EVER spoken about Mike Love, or any of the Love brothers for that matter, either positively or negatively, whatsoever, in modern interviews? Seemingly there is only one guy in the band who isn't mentioned by Blondie at all, so I'm guessing that this omission may not be a coincidence when it comes to the skeletons that are spoken of.

For that matter, has Mike ever spoken of Blondie in any interview whatsoever?
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Some Sweet Day now streaming on Rollingstone.com on: September 08, 2017, 09:55:46 AM


While Mark Linett has since confirmed above that it's at the correct speed, it's worth noting as an aside that I would imagine at this stage the CDs have already been replicated and ready to ship out if not already shipped out for a 9/22 release. We would probably be stuck with it as-is anyway even if there was some sort of issue. Of course, these days they can of course much more easily and quickly fix problems on the "digital download" versions of tracks.

True, but unfortunately with the exception of the wrong mix of "Melt Away", which still has the incorrect mix on streaming services like Spotify, years after it became known that the wrong mix was used (and on perhaps Brian's best solo song ever, IMO).

TOTALLY unacceptable that this hasn't been fixed yet. How hard would it be to re-upload it? Just how hard? C'mon, powers that be! Please make it happen! I pay for Spotify and use it all the time, but when I want to listen to BW88, I have to bust out my old iPod classic to make sure I'm hearing the right original release mix of Melt Away. That extra vocal line is THAT important.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Some Sweet Day now streaming on Rollingstone.com on: September 07, 2017, 03:57:14 PM
I am almost positive the song is being played at an incorrect speed.

Listen to the version that's been floating around for years: https://youtu.be/FHt_LQBfZ-Y?t=40m11s

Tell me that's not a more natural / realistic vocal range for a mid-'90s Brian. Tell me that's not a more truthful sound for the backing instrumentation.

I recall that copies of the Paley sessions material were sent out at different speeds in an early attempt at copy protection. Is it possible the version on Playback is sourced from one of the sped-up dubs?

It's also possible, of course, that BW and Andy decided the song sounded better being pitched-up. Whatever the case, I'd bet you anything it wasn't recorded that way.

Wouldn't it be interesting if you are 100% correct, and somebody from the record company reads this post and realizes the error of their ways, in that they actually screwed up unintentionally, and fixes it before the actual release?

Stranger things have happened.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Joan Rivers dated Dennis Wilson!!! on: September 06, 2017, 09:41:08 PM

Old Man Rivers
Rivers Song
Spaceballs Dressed Up For School
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Denny's birthdate mentioned in Close Encounters of the Third Kind on: September 06, 2017, 12:59:56 PM
Just rewatched this fine film in the theater for its 40th anniversary re-release, and noticed that near the end of the film, Richard Dreyfuss' character gives his date of birth as December 4, 1944.

Being that Denny saw another Spielberg alien film of that era (E.T.) in the theater, according to Ed Roach, I wonder if Denny saw Close Encounters in the theater and did a spit take?

Separate from that, it's interesting to think about what other famous events happened on the actual dates of birth of other BB members. Has anyone ever pulled the front page of newspapers from microfiche to see what interesting things happened on those days?

From a cursory glance at Wikipedia:

Brian: June 20 1942 – The Holocaust: Kazimierz Piechowski and three others, dressed as members of the SS-Totenkopfverbände, steal an SS staff car and escape from the Auschwitz concentration camp. 1942 – Neil Trudinger, Australian mathematician and theorist born

Carl: December 21, 1946 – An 8.1 Mw earthquake and subsequent tsunami in Nankaidō, Japan, kills over 1,300 people and destroys over 38,000 homes.

Mike: March 15, 1941 – Philippine Airlines, the flag carrier of the Philippines takes its first flight between Manila (from Nielson Field) to Baguio City with a Beechcraft Model 18 making the airline the first and oldest commercial airline in Asia operating under its original name.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Question for Talented Musicy People on: September 06, 2017, 12:52:09 PM
Speaking of the intro of "Look", I've always felt the first 20 seconds were *so* magical, and almost reminiscent of the intro of California Girls. So much so that it kind of feels like a successor or tip of the hat/sequel to that beautiful CG intro.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Article/Interview: Brian Wilson On Touring At 75 & Where Inspiration Comes From on: September 05, 2017, 01:04:53 PM
CD. Brian is not going to condone your dirty weed habit.

In fact he's very cross with you.

 LOL LOL LOL
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Article/Interview: Brian Wilson On Touring At 75 & Where Inspiration Comes From on: September 05, 2017, 10:21:46 AM
http://pancakesandwhiskey.com/2017/09/01/brian-wilson-touring-75-inspiration-comes/

BRIAN WILSON ON TOURING AT 75 & WHERE THE INSPIRATION COMES FROM
Article: Olivia Isenhart

I try not to get personal, but there’s no getting around it here. The knowledge that I’d soon be getting a call from Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys was absolutely unfathomable, right up until the phone rang. No other musician has been part of my life for so long. Pile on the 55 years my dad has spent loving, studying, and collecting every scrap of his music, and you’ve got a serious superfan situation. Smile was the first album I ever owned. I knew all about Brian before I even knew who The Beatles were. By the time the interview came, I was so focused, I swear I could have bent spoons with my mind. When I realized it was really him, though, the nerves drifted away like gentle waves. “Hi Olivia,” he said, somehow making everything seem simple. I was in my room. He was in California. And though I’m sure he was wearing clean, white Nike sneaks, as he was when I saw him perform in Florida in March – I preferred to imagine he was lounging in flip-flops, kicking off bits of fresh sand as we spoke. “There are 20s people, 30s people, 40s people, 50s people, 60s people, and 70s people,” he told me, listing each group with care. “People of all ages come to see my concerts.” He wasn’t bragging (though he certainly could). In fact, he seemed almost surprised by it.

For an introverted musical genius who was once overwhelmed by his own success, it wouldn’t be a leap to assume that the renewed public attention on his life and work has added some pressure to the songwriting process. But Wilson seemed far from intimidated, speaking contentedly and matter-of-factly about the whole exchange. “No, actually, it keeps me going,” he said, “[when] the music inspires people to go buy our records. That’s what will keep you writing music. It feels good; it feels very rewarding. Because we just try to write the best music.” Beyond that, though, he was quick to avoid taking too much credit. The next release on the horizon, Playback: The Brian Wilson Anthology, due out next month, is a collection covering 30 years of his solo music, plus two previously unreleased tracks – one that he wrote just for this record. Ask him much about it, though, and he’ll downplay his involvement completely. “Well I didn’t oversee it. I approved it,” he insisted, sounding somewhat amused by the project. “They put it together, and I said ‘Yeah, that’s okay!’”

He revealed a bit more participation, though, when we dug into the details; namely, whether the new track he penned, entitled “Run James Run,” has any connection to “Pet Sounds” from the Beach Boys album of the same name – which was originally called “Run James Run.” Wilson wrote that swanky instrumental track in the early 60s as a proposed theme for the upcoming James Bond movie (though it was never submitted), and there’s been no coverage yet about whether the new song is related. “No, actually, it’s not. It’s very different than the one we did back in Pet Sounds. It’s not the same melody,” Brian confirmed, though he wouldn’t reveal more. It seemed he was somewhere between mystified and bored by the whole concept of an anthology record, so I asked him what project he’s most excited about right now. “Well, my rock and roll album I’m going to write later on this year. I’m going to write a rrrock and rrroll album!” he repeated with boyish enthusiasm, drawing out the Rs like a radio DJ from his era. “I think it’s going to come out early next year. It’s going to be new material – mostly new material.”

When I mentioned my affinity for his last solo album, 2015’s No Pier Pressure, I witnessed a rare moment of self-assurance. “Yeah, that Pier Pressure album came out very well,” he agreed. “It had a few guest artists like Zooey Deschanel. They all sang really good.” For his upcoming rock record, however, any possible collaborations are still up in the air. “I haven’t decided who to work with. I don’t know! I might work with…” he teased. “I have no idea.” Knowing he’s performed with fellow icons like Paul McCartney and Elton John, I was curious if there were any others he’s always wanted to work with. “No, that covers it!” Brian said, almost on the edge of a chuckle. “Paul and Elton cover it.” While on the topic of releases, I had to find out what he thought about much of The Beach Boys’ discography being remastered from mono to stereo – given that, due to deafness in one ear since childhood, he has adamantly preferred writing and recording music in mono. My dad and I had often pondered whether he liked the way the 2012 stereo mixes came out. “Oh yeah,” Brian said with a lot of enthusiasm, adding, to my relief, that the quality “sounds the same” to him. Then with two rapid “No”s, he denied having had any qualms about his songs being reworked. “I can only hear with one ear, but my one ear hears a good sound.”

Thanks to the immersive 2015 biopic detailing the darkest periods of Wilson’s life, Love & Mercy, the general public and I now have a remote understanding of the chaos inside his head. But Brian divulged that even the wildest scenes were mild. “Yeah, the actors and the actresses portrayed me so well, that it took me back to that time when I was producing records,” he said, affirming that seeing the film made him inspired to write more. I wondered if it was weird having so many personal moments exposed to the world. “It was weird, but only the part when I took the psychedelic drugs. That’s the part I didn’t like. But otherwise, it was very well portrayed.” I cautiously pressed for a reason; drugs had not been a part of the questions I’d carefully prepared over the past week. God only knows how many times he’s been asked about that. Brian paused. “Well, I had a lot of mental troubles from the drugs I took.” He stopped in his tracks. It genuinely sounded like he wanted to say more, so I tentatively asked if he felt the drug scenes portrayed in the film weren’t as severe as what he experienced in real life. “Yeah,” he said definitively. “I try to give people advice. ‘Don’t take drugs,’ you know?” We both left it at that, for the time being. Switching gears, we talked about his wife Melinda’s crucial role in the film, and in his real life. “She oversaw the script,” said Brian, rather proudly. “I did too, but it was mostly her who oversaw the script writing.” And though he said he misses her on tour, she supports him with frequent contact. “Well, she just calls every day,” he told me. “Checks in on how we’re doing, how the concert’s going, you know? Stuff like that.”

By any measure, his concerts have been going extremely well. Since taking off on the 50th anniversary Pet Sounds tour last year, the 75-year-old singer has been on a rigorous run, playing over 165 shows in 54 countries. For any artist, it’d be impressive. For the Beach Boy who once had a jarring panic attack on an airplane (as depicted in Love & Mercy), embarking on a 1964 tour that he subsequently sat out, it’s somewhat miraculous – and feels like a tremendous gift to his fans. I wondered how international dates at age 75 differed from the anxious ones of his youth. “It’s coming more easily,” he said with confidence. “The difference now is, me and my band members have had a lot of practice, and we know our show from the top to the bottom.” That’s quite a feat, considering it includes not only a full run-through of Pet Sounds – with perfectly-timed dog barks, bike whistles, and all – but a jam-packed intro of surf hits, performed with original Beach Boys Blondie Chaplin and Al Jardine, as well as Jardine’s talented 51-year-old son. “Matt Jardine sings most of the high parts that I used to sing,” said Brian, referring to the elegant, precise interplay that blew me away when I saw him in Orlando. “He’s great! He’s really something,” said Brian of the younger Jardine. Remembering how they gracefully exchanged parts on many tricky passages that a younger Brian took on solo, I was dying to know if the quick transitions were challenging. “Well, yeah!” he said. “We rehearsed together for two months before we started our world tour.”

The next thing he said, immediately after I asked about the challenges of their live performance, was unexpectedly deep. “Well, the inspiration comes from God,” he explained, as if he was recapping something obvious that everyone knew. “It comes to me, and we give it to each other. Me and my lyricist give it to each other.” I don’t know what stunned me more: that he said it so suddenly and with such surety; or that, for him, feeling inspired is so closely intertwined with the day-to-day hurdles of putting on a good show. I managed to catch my breath. There was something else I wanted to know. “Well, I would say, make sure you don’t take psychedelic drugs.” That was his advice, without hesitation, for anyone battling depression or going through a difficult period in life. It didn’t totally take me off guard; last year, he said that even though his experiences on hallucinogenic drugs inspired some of his greatest, most critically-acclaimed songs – including “Good Vibrations,” “California Girls,” and “Help Me Rhonda,” according to Brian – it wasn’t even worth it.

“Like, aspirin, Tylenol, or medication…you know?” he told me in a nurturing tone. “But no psychedelic drugs.” I asked if there was anything else he’d suggest, and got a firm “No!” but I could sense a knowing smile in its timbre. I’m not sure what kind of advice I was expecting, but the simplicity of his answer – the notion that any darkness could be overcome, merely by abstaining from things that are bad for you – was more comforting than anything else he could have said. And I loved him even more for it.

Great article.

Brian has warned against psychedelic drug use, understandably. But has he ever said anything bad about weed? Perhaps I can recall vaguely at some point Brian saying that too much hashish screwed him up when combined with all the other stuff he was taking... but it seems like he implied it to be more of a moderation thing; I don't think Brian's ever tried to say that people shouldn't smoke weed at all, am I correct?

Speaking of, I wonder when the last time was that Brian smoked weed. We know Landy gave him access to some occasionally. Has Brian ever occasionally had a toke in the post-Landy era?
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rolling Stone: The Salvation of Brian Wilson on: September 03, 2017, 06:59:43 PM
Take the band, music and wives out of the picture and I still think Brian and Mike could get along ok. They did it at a ball game some years back.

Right. And it's because Brian is simply too nice. This is part of his personality that has gone back years.  Somebody who is so endlessly - and even worse, publicly - judgmental about another person's wife and lifestyle in general should not be given the time of day at a certain point.

Basically, what you're saying is if you take away the toxicity that Mike brings to the table, Mike and Brian could get along fine. And I'm sure that's true.  But toxicity seems inate to Mike, sadly.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rolling Stone: The Salvation of Brian Wilson on: September 03, 2017, 05:21:12 PM
I'd like to hop at one point, when things slow down a little more and Brian and Mike aren't doing so many shows that they can at least break bread as cousins, and enjoy the third act of life and reflect on what they were able to accomplish together.  

What is sad, I mean really sad, is that the Love brothers are estranged and have been for years. Unless they have since reconciled in the past year???  If anything I'd think fans and supporters would be pushing more fervently for the Love brothers to break bread and at least make some moves toward patching things up. That's the direct blood relative relationship there, and I also think of the various families who could be sharing time together, at this point getting to know each other as uncles, nephews, nieces, etc...These are the people who grew up in the same house and Mike seems to be estranged from them...as others have said, that's personal family business, but for all of the endless talk about Brian and Mike getting together to break bread, isn't anyone a little more sad to see Mike's own family and his own brothers fractured as they have been?

So forgive me if my bias is showing again, but it was jarring to hear Mike's biographer/co-author on a podcast interview make it a point to say how Brian was estranged from the Love family...to which I posted a reply in the form of a photo taken within weeks prior to that podcast showing Brian smiling with his cousin Maureen at a show. Yet not a word about Mike's actual brothers being estranged from Mike.

So I have to wonder beyond the normal family dynamic where people want to see relatives patch thing up and get back together as a matter of goodwill and normal human emotions, if among the fanbase (and deeper going into all that insider bullshit) there is some kind of warped notion that Brian and Mike need to break bread so the Beach Boys brand sees an increase in market value...

Because simple, basic, unfiltered human emotions and reactions would dictate that a guy who has spent the past several years telling potentially hundreds of thousands of fans - via public comments supposedly given in the name of promoting concert dates with local media - how his cousin Brian is still being controlled, drugged, and other niceties must think words don't matter. If Brian did indeed check out and slam that door shut, how many normal people would blame him? If I picked up a newspaper and read a close friend or cousin trashing me or my family publicly, that would be it...done.

Narcissists are typically responsible for people being estranged from them.  There does seem to be a sad pattern and common factor here.
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rolling Stone: The Salvation of Brian Wilson on: September 01, 2017, 05:02:11 PM
It's nuts. If you read that Jason Fine article from 2012, Brian heaps a TON of praise on "Daybreak Over the Ocean", yet is so off-put even thinking about working on Al's "Waves of Love" that he LITERALLY just ups and leaves the room to avoid working on it or even discussing it further with Al. Yet, how did things shake down after the reunion? It's Mike who is disenfranchised and feels marginalized creatively on the album, while it's Al who continues to work with Brian despite being almost comically rejected creatively by Brian during those same sessions. 

I wouldn't be surprised if Brian didn't want to have to deal with the emotions that might have come up when newly working on a track with his late brother's vocals on it. Granted, he did it in 2004 with Soul Searchin', but maybe he found that to be a difficult experience.

I can't see any other logical reason for Brian being so apparently extra allergic to another bandmate's BB track. The only other track I can think of that garnered such a Brian reaction apparently was Student Demonstration Time.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Joan Rivers dated Dennis Wilson!!! on: August 30, 2017, 05:23:33 PM
I am wondering if that is a typo for Brian  because she went on a few dates with Brian in the Landy period -there are photos and he discussed it on Howard stern-and she was married to her husband by 1965

I remember it.  I don't recall seeing pictures of them, but I do remember a video of her and her daughter with Brian at the hard Rock Cafe in New York when Brian donated his upright piano.  No evidence it was a"date", but i do remember talk about the possibility

Can We (Don't) Tawlllk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Who Arranged 'Be With Me'? on: August 30, 2017, 05:17:37 PM
The strings were arranged by Van McCoy, based on Dennis' ideas, and the horns were arranged by Roger Neumann, again likely from ideas plotted out by Dennis. Neumann did a lot of the horn arrangements for late '60s BBs tunes. You may be interested to know that the French horns on this tune were played by Alf Clausen...later famous for composing the "Simpsons" theme.

A bit of unfortunate news regarding the career Alf "Be With Me" Clausen:

http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/simpsons-composer-alf-clausen-fired-1202543183/

It seems that Mike's one-time would be duet costar, Bart Simpson (indirectly) has fired the Alf-ster.

"Bart Fires ALF" should have been the headline.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Joan Rivers dated Dennis Wilson!!! on: August 30, 2017, 02:49:54 PM


Beyond ironic that the one time the band makes an appearance on Johnny Carson's Tonight Show, the guy they sang and titled a song about was MIA and replaced by a guest host.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys on American Bandstand in 1979 (video) on: August 25, 2017, 05:16:58 PM
Just based on this brief clip, I could listen to Carl talk for hours. His gentle voice is just so calming. It's almost like a Bob Ross type of effect.  I think Carl's voice and demeanor could induce ASMR in people who are capable of feeling it.

Great clip, thanks so much for sharing.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bruce Johnston's Grammy (video) on: August 22, 2017, 09:48:50 AM
They actually misspelled Bruce's last name on the original burned-in graphic which appeared onscreen as he went up to get the award. Ouch.



I wonder how many people attending or watching in 1977 knew Bruce had been a member of The BBs.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Who wrote the Lucky Old Sun vocal intro? on: August 21, 2017, 03:13:40 PM


I'm more interested in exactly what Jon Bon Jovi contributed to "Summer's Gone" to receive a writing credit on that. Presumably he had a hand in the lyrics but the lyrics to "Summer's Gone" are so effective because they're so simple. Did it really take three guys to write that? Was it merely a case of "Hey, Jon's in the studio next door and he contributed the word "gone" so let's give him a credit and we can say we've got Jon Bon Jovi on the record" or was his contribution much more substantial?   

I wonder if Mike threw out all of his (surely massive) collection of Bon Jovi albums out of frustration when he found out that people not named Mike Love co-wrote a new Beach Boys song with "Summer" in the title.

Slippery Wheeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Wet
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bruce Johnston's Grammy (video) on: August 21, 2017, 03:10:40 PM
I had never been able to find video or photos of Bruce Johnston winning his Song of the Year Grammy. I started to wonder if it actually happened. After some digging I finally found it. At the tail end of this clip you can watch Marilyn McCoo and Billy Davis Jr. present Bruce Johnston with his one and only Grammy award. He looked pretty happy about it. I'm sure Mike was in the audience crying a single teardrop of joy. 

Video: https://youtu.be/OpryIXT4bUA?t=5m06s

It cuts shortly after he accepts so I'd be very interested to see more if it exists. Was there a full speech?



I wonder if Bruce's Grammy is prominently displayed on his fireplace mantle.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Small Addition to SMiLE Website on: August 20, 2017, 03:20:30 PM
Amazing stuff Bill!  What a list!!!  Seems right up Brian's  '66/'67 alley.  The "I know you'll feel better when you send us in your letter....." lyric/section of "Vega-Tables" has always seemed to me like a line from a snake oil salesman/game show host....

And the notion that Brian wanted to keep the purpose behind SMiLE a secret instantly makes me think of Brian's "Smog" recording.  Please correct me if I'm wrong but I think it was recorded during the "Love to Say Dada" sessions and thus the final sessions for SMiLE..... 

“Air pollution is something that has become increasingly more of a threat to all of us over the last ten years, especially in the last five years since the growing industry demands……and when I hear things like that it makes me want to get involved in this thing in some way, do my best. Ok. We, the way we can help is to make a record, and more or less present the facts in some interesting manner, not boring but in some way that people can retain these facts, and to sort of set up in their minds a goal to get rid of this sh*t!"

It seems like at that moment, in light of THe Magic of Believing, he was either confident that SMiLE was finished and could finally share his goal for it or, more likely, SMiLE was "finished", Brian was throwing in the towel, giving up on The Magic of Believing and thus free to reveal SMiLE's purpose during it's last sessions, knowing he was going to put it away on a shelf in a tape vault where he expected no one would ever hear the music or his goal for it. 



The "send us your letter" line definitely has a game show vibe about it.

I wonder… Were there any game shows during that era which specifically might have inspired that line?  In the 1980s, I can recall there was a game show called Press Your Luck, which had a home viewer contest where people could send in poems about the money-hungry animated "Whammy" character that was part of the show. I'm sure there must've been some similar type of letter – sending contest/audience participation thing during the 1960s.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: COPYRIGHT IS GETTING OUT THE LINE on: August 16, 2017, 01:44:27 PM
I'd pay a fortune for a whole huge package filled with videos, live performances, interviews, and of course, songs.  Maybe also have a giant picture booklet with images throughout the band's career, everything would be presented in chronological order in accordance to year.  Perhaps some writings by the members about their perspective on life, love, and music.  Instead of the little snippets we fans get each year due to copyright laws expiring, something this big could get a lot of people interested...

The Beatles, with their gigantic posture did it, why can't America's band, loved and cherished by many, pull themselves together and do something like this?

I would rather see this than more reissues of Pet Sounds. 

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