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26  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) on: December 08, 2021, 12:55:34 PM
In my opinion, the pinnacle of the right kind of polish in BW's solo career is the Gershwin album.

By a mile.

His voice sounds fantastic and whatever pitch correction artifacts on there are exceedingly minimal and not distracting to my ears whatsoever. They totally nailed it in the production on the album and Brian clearly really took his time on those vocals.

It doesn't have to be the extremes of Joe Thomas NPP versus this new rawer soundtrack.

But I also understand he is getting older and either might not have the patience or there could be any number of factors why we aren't getting another Gershwin level album these days. But I'm grateful for what we are getting nevertheless.
27  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) on: November 26, 2021, 03:18:39 PM

"Slightly American Music" seems like a sequel to "Do You Remember"... although the moment that Brian sings "I Get Around", I'm instantly transported to the alternate Black Mirror universe of self-references of "Smart Girls" for a brief moment. Grin

I wonder what drove the 1990s decision to record "Slightly American music" considering there was a BBs song with virtually the same blueprint in the Beach Boys catalog from a thematic standpoint. I guess maybe it's a bit of an updated version with references to The Beatles, looking back 30 years later…
28  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 25, 2021, 08:56:27 AM
Has any announcement been made as to when this film might become available in Europe?

I’ve seen no info about any release outside USA, not even a “stay tuned for info”. Very disappointing.
Which is weird, because last summer they announced that they already have international distribution covered. There's a lot of Brian fans outside of US and it's dissappointing not being able to see it when we are living the time of streaming. I tried a million ways to see it already, but VPNs won't work when all the platforms require a US credit card.


It's truly remarkable how inept the process is for the powers that be to not allow the film currently in other countries. Especially right when all the promo is happening and people are getting excited about the film.

Literally they are just begging for the movie to be pirated when they behave this way. When people are happily willing to pay for a product that's available in other countries and they make it unavailable, it just doesn't compute to me. International rights needed to have been worked out ahead of time. Whoever is in charge of this really dropped the ball. Oof.
29  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Song Question on: November 24, 2021, 12:35:10 PM
I think Right Where I Belong is easily in the top 5 songs of Brian's solo career. It has those amazing melodies and just gives me that warm, fuzzy BW vibe.

It's constructed in a manner that has Brian's sonic DNA in it; it's unclear to me if some of that songwriting is Jim James duplicating the Brian sound, but none of that matters to me - I love it a ton. The retro-esque, but simultaneously timeless and tasteful production rules too.

Probably the top 5 released songs of Brian's solo career in my view are:

- Melt Away
- Midnight's Another Day
- Love & Mercy
- Right Where I Belong
- One Kind of Love

That top 5 list might fluctuate here and there depending on my mood, or if I were to re-listen to all of Brian's solo albums I might change my thoughts a bit... but off the top of my head, I think that's a fair list for today.

Great job to all involved in this new track.
30  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 23, 2021, 05:41:24 PM
I think more than anything, this doc’s point and purpose is spelled out by Elton. He says, and I’m paraphrasing, that Brian’s life of the last 30-odd years (post Landy) has been a creative accomplishment in itself. That is, he’s built a life of caring and compassion around him from nothing. Really, that’s what the whole doc is about. He made great music in the past, he can still do it to some extent, but really just getting through every day and communicating with the world is a huge challenge. And Brian is older and less gregarious than he once was, but dammit, he does it. He pushes through.

Like Carl says, it’s about the joy of life in a very simple way. The movie is much less sophisticated than IJWMFTT (which was really about re-creating the whole legend from scratch after the brutal Landy period), but it has a lot of heart and is far more spontaneous.

So very well put.

That Elton John quote was one of the most poignant lines in the entire film, and Elton's words brought something new to the overall Brian Wilson discussion.

The terms "musical genius" and "survivor" are often used with regards to Brian, and I suppose Elton's view is an extension of the "survivor" ideology, but Elton expanded upon that viewpoint in precisely how he put it... Elton really spoke that sentence in such a great, profound way (can't wait for a Blu-ray release so I can fast forward to get the exact quote); I found it quite moving and spot on. I hope more people begin to see Brian's story that way too.
31  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 23, 2021, 05:37:04 PM


No, Nick Jonas doesn't need to be here. He doesn't say anything disagreeable; I just think it lacks any gravitas. There is a bit of a sense of trying to sell the viewer too hard on Brian's genius though some of these interview clips; a bit like a McCartney doc.

I also still find it fascinating how Al Jardine has been touring full-time with Brian now for almost TEN years, and he's still largely ignored. I'm not saying he should be a main focus, but we get more interview footage with Nick Jonas than Al Jardine in this (who gets one very quick interview clip). I dunno, maybe the point was to *not* interview very close friends and family for this (in which case, why is Al there at all then?). But Al would have some very specific keen insights into Brian's life, having been back in it since 2012 and being able to contrast it to the past.
 

Agree completely that Nick Jonas doesn't need to be in the film, and that it would be better to have more Al interview footage.

One thing to consider is that during the Q&A I attended last week, the director Brent Wilson said Nick Jonas was chosen specifically to try to broaden the demographic and pull in more non-BBs hardcore fans to perhaps consider digging deeper into Brian's work.

Apparently, according to the Q&A, the interview subjects were chosen out of an attempt to get a variety of different musicians from different parts of the world (The Boss from USA, Elton from UK, etc) and also music celebs who have a variety of ages and types of music they're best known for. And also it was stated at the Q&A that Nick Jonas was, like Brian, in a boy band, and then tried (and apparently continues trying - I have no idea since I've never listened to a note of his music) to branch out and broaden his musical output beyond the pigeonholed music he initially made with his brothers.

So whether one digs Nick Jonas or not, I can at least appreciate the intention set by Brent Wilson. I suppose if the idea of the film is to get more people on the Brian Wilson train who aren't already huge fans, maybe Al Jardine wasn't considered as vital to that discussion for the filmmaker's intent.

I also have to think that there's 100% an intent for Oscar consideration behind the film's release, so maybe they feel high profile celebs singing the praise of Brian is going to help nudge the factors in the direction to get a proper high profile award for the film. But ultimately, yeah, as a fan absolutely I would love to hear more from Al though, and less from Nick Jonas, no doubt.

I do hope this film gets an Oscar, who knows what will happen. I was certainly disappointed by the lack of awards and noms attained by Love & Mercy compared to what I feel that film deserved (and I tried to think about that film detached from my superfandom, and I still believe it's the best biopic I've ever seen, and at least as good - better in my view - than Walk The Line)... so I think that Melinda and company probably feel this film is another shot at getting Oscar or similar award gold for a Brian Wilson film. And I completely feel it's deserved, again, in the case of this great film.
32  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billy Hinsche 1951-2021 on: November 21, 2021, 03:08:31 PM
RIP Billy and Celia. Such very sad news.

The scene in "long promised road" where Brian listens to "farewell, my friend", written by Dennis in honor of Billiy's father Otto, takes on a whole new meaning.

💔
33  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 19, 2021, 10:12:27 PM
Everyone should watch the darn thing before commenting.

Brian might not _say_ many more words than he has before, but this film studies his face and eyes like no others. It doesn’t cut away. And there are words and thoughts he expresses that really took me aback with their power and clarity.

Worth your time.

+1 to the max
34  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 19, 2021, 10:11:56 PM
Just watched LPR - absolutely loved it.  I have a question, but will precede it with a POSSIBLE SPOILER WARNING

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In the film, there is a shot of the piano in the sandbox.  Does anyone know if that is an actual photo taken in the Laurel Way house, or was that taken on the set of Love & Mercy?

That's a very good question - I was wondering the same thing myself. I do remember reading either on this message board or perhaps a Facebook page that Marilyn actually has some photos that are unpublished of the real sandbox, so apparently they do exist.

I'm thinking and hoping and wishing and praying that that's actually one of the real photos, seen for the first time... but I would love for the experts to weigh in before making any conclusions...
35  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 18, 2021, 08:08:48 AM
I had the profound pleasure of seeing the film at the Laemmle theater in Westwood last night along with a post-film Q&A by Brent Wilson, Jason Fine, and Brian Wilson.

In a nutshell, the film is a GAME CHANGER. It's a truly worthy (and very different) documentary counterpart to Love & Mercy. For anybody learning about the story of Brian Wilson, *both* of these superb films are absolute must-sees.

Among many other unexpected firsts that this film shows, latter day Brian is seen in the studio fully in charge, kicking butt, very much engaged, getting stuff done, which definitely goes a ways to prove how much confidence and self sufficiency Brian Wilson still has at this time in his life when he's feeling it. The amount of empathy gained for what Brian has to go through on a daily basis to deal with the voices in his head is quite profound.

There have been many people who over the years have claimed otherwise, and many assumptions by fans have been spoken about how Brian doesn't do anything much in the studio and lets people do everything for him…, but this film proves Brian has still got it, which as the filmmakers noted afterwards in the Q&A was shown in the film virtually live and mostly unedited just as the events happened in front of them.

The film is a brave piece of filmmaking, and many raw moments that might be considered a bit surprising that they let in the film were right there for the audience to see. Both in terms of raw sounding latter-day live performances, and also just in terms of Brian physically looking like a dude who is almost 80 and has lived a hard life in many ways, you're going to see some stuff on film that isn't sugarcoated and I really appreciate that they let this level of honesty into the film.

The new song heard in the film "Right Where I Belong" is super, and I think most people would agree it's among the best top shelf songs in his solo career.

Brian speaks about topics that you would not expect him to speak about, and so much of the credit goes to Jason Fine for setting a comfortable tone and environment which Brian was extraordinarily responsive to.

Brian Wilson is very much still there, but it takes the right environment for him to come out of his shell - and this film provides such an environment in a way that I think will be stunning for people to see. It's unlike any documentary ever done about Brian; in my opinion it was made with a similar level of filmmaking artistry, emotion, and craft that Love & Mercy was made with, which is a rare compliment.

I can't wait to hear what everybody else about the film once they see it.
36  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 22, 2021, 04:01:29 PM
Great words from Stanley Shapiro

It's really unconscionable that this wonderful song was omitted in favor of SDT.

My mother is a child of the 60s who attended Berkeley and was part of People's Park, she was there and lived it, and I recently played her SDT for the first time, and about halfway through it she thought it was so horrible - lyrically speaking she found it incredibly emotionally tone deaf and insulting  - that she wanted me to turn it off.

I happily obliged.
37  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: October 14, 2021, 11:50:43 AM
I agree, costume and set design were award-worthy as well.

"Love & Mercy" was a small miracle; a truly great film above all else. I don't have really any major gripe about the film. I think plenty of elements were awards-worthy, and certainly nomination-worthy. It's not a knock on Brian, but "One Kind of Love" was pretty far down on the list of things that seemed award-worthy, to me anyway.

If Brian wanted an Oscar nom for a song, I think a good model would be to shop something like "Sail Away" (from NPP) to like a Disney animated movie or something.

I have to say I disagree. I think "one kind of love" is definitely amongst the very very best material Brian has ever done in his solo career. Does it compete with the very best stuff he did in his heyday? I wouldn't quite say so. But it's still quite excellent and definitely gives me the feels especially on the chorus and the lyrics about unconditional love are just very meaningful to my ears at least. From a purely emotional standpoint I think it gets my vote for it being award worthy especially when trying to tie something into that movie to get some sort of award connected to it.

That said I suppose OKOL doesn't quite fit into the modern day context of what wins awards perhaps. It's not quite as mesmerizing or filled with hooks or whatever you wanna call it, and didn't really strike a chord with the mass public in the way that they perhaps hoped it would, which if it had perhaps would've led to it winning. But I think it deserves proper accolades and definitely had a place at the table amongst whatever songs it was nominated against that year. IMHO.

That said... from a truly realistic standpoint, just in terms of thinking about what could actually win an award, as opposed to what is maybe most deserving or not, your suggestion of "Sail away" in a Disney flick  might have been a bit more logical. I'm just more thinking about my emotions here with regards to my own personal opinions on the matter.

38  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Wilson article in \ on: October 08, 2021, 02:17:45 PM
I believe this is the essay in question:

https://www.shindig-magazine.com/?p=4986

What's here is quite like fodder for a long, complicated thread, but if the description in the section of the essay pertaining to "Wouldn't It Be Nice (to Live Again)" is any indication, there was (as Jack Rieley has been quoted as saying) simply too much music being created in the time frame after SUNFLOWER's release for the group to process it properly. The question of how the "Poops" songs were supposed to seque is worth some time from some of our more advanced musicians/musical thinkers, and I hope that some folks will take it up.

But the central mystery that I'd love to have solved is why "Make It Good" and "Cuddle Up" got selected for CATP over "Wouldn't It Be Nice (to Live Again)." Neither of those tracks could possibly have been seen as singles, and it must have been apparent even then that WIBNTLA was a superior track.

I could be mistaken but I seem to recall reading, possibly on this board, that WIBNTLA was written during one particular period in Dennis's love life, but at a future point when it might have been released on a later album, he was in a different place in his love life where that song was incongruous with his current feelings, and maybe that impacted its non-release.

It is still baffling, although it would perhaps seem that he learned a thing or two from his big brother as far as keeping some of his best material locked away, if perhaps that material experienced some sort of rejection in its original incarnation. I mean, Brian essentially normalized that behavior within the Wilson brothers,  I think it had much to do with heavy emotions and feelings of rejection.

When those heavy feelings were at play, I think there was no way for them to be objective about what was "better material" when it came to releasing songs. Maybe a song was "tainted" or just had heavy feelings associated with it, and that probably took precedent over any objective reasoning  when it came to  releasing comparatively lesser material in its place.
39  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Here's a little web-series about some Feel Flows era tunes on: October 05, 2021, 11:21:43 PM
Just watched the video on "slip on through" and it was really fantastic. Thank you so very much for doing these!
40  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The 2020 mix of \ on: October 05, 2021, 11:08:47 PM
The best part of the song is the little brief break/bridge ascending melodic part. Somehow that section has always remind me of an old TV station jingle, like something you'd hear while the announcer says "you're watching NBC", or something to that effect.

Definitely one of my least favorite songs by the band, but it's much better in instrumental form, comparatively speaking. Oddly, it feels somehow cut from a similar cloth as "tears in the morning", with a vaguely European type of vibe. I do appreciate that Brian was trying to do something different, is definitely different than most of the other songs he ever recorded.

Lyrically, was Mike trying to write some sort of proto feminist anthem? It almost feels like maybe this was a conscious effort to conceptually distance the band from songs like "California girls", with lyrics that just talk about women being cool in a non physical or non romantic way...or something like that.

I can't quite even understand what the point of the song is lyrically, other than some random outsider observations of women as though they are some sort of species onto themselves. Very odd. I guess it paved the way for "smart girls", which also seems to be Brian atoning for his past sins of thinking about women primarily for reasons other than their brains.  But yes lyrically this song is extraordinarily embarrassing IMHO
41  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Won't you tell me why Won't You Tell Me was left unreleased? on: October 05, 2021, 08:51:26 AM
It's a pretty song but it's quite schmaltzy and dated sounding for the time.  And Brian's wonky lead vocal is all over the place.  The song would have probably been more at home featured in one of the band's earlier albums from the early 60's.

I have wondered if the vocal was even properly considered  to be a "final" lead vocal, or if basically what we have on the recording is just the state it was in when Brian stopped working on it? It's a really odd vocal because in parts it's really amazing and pulls at the heartstrings but in other parts it sounds a bit off in a way that I can't quite describe. But I guess this is probably also part of Brian's mental state at the time where his self-confidence was getting erratic.

In any case I just adore this song and it's one of my very favorite part of the entire box. It's got those patented Brian Wilson chord changes, And it really makes no sense why a song like this was left off while tracks like "our sweet love" were released around this time. I love "our sweet love", but I suppose it could be considered not all that different in terms of feel/vibe/topic to this song. Maybe this song is just a hair more schmaltzy...

Somehow it does feel like a song that would've been recorded by Carpenters.
42  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys lineup in Cleveland - June 1, 1991 on: September 28, 2021, 05:27:22 PM
Richie Cannata was part of the band for this 1992 publicity photo (which was probably taken in late 1991 or early 1992):



That backing band pic is amazing. What would have been the purpose of doing a professionally shot photo of the backing band at this point in time? Were they being contracted to do one-off shows for non-BBs type scenarios?

Side note: Matt Jardine's mullet and near shirtless look make him look just like the sax player from The Lost Boys in this pic.
43  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian’s involvement in solo albums on: September 28, 2021, 05:05:45 PM
In a nutshell, it seems likely to me that - just like Marilyn said - it took a good deal of questioning and haranguing aimed at Brian's music, by the people around Brian, to cause something to irrevocably "flip" in his head.

From a certain point on, this caused Brian to not quite completely have full 100% confidence in his own mojo to pull off songs and have the entire process go relatively easy-peasy.

I mean, Brian had such an amazing track record in the early days, and yes I'm sure there was some push/pull with his collaborators here and there... but ultimately Brian being the boss and having final word was relatively UNQUESTIONED for a number of years. Then, at a certain point, the pressure of some people close to him not quite believing in him or his vision, and getting all of those wires crossed in his head with second-guessing the "appropriateness" of the music he was making, it all seemingly culminated in Brian permanently not really having the self-contained motivation to see songs through fully to completion, without someone else REALLY helping to push a project along to the final stages.

The bad vibes during the SMiLE period, and the fact that Mike basically passive aggressively helped (didn't solely cause, but helped) to sink a creative collaboration between Brian and Van, had long lasting ramifications. And yes the drugs didn't help either.

On top of this, the other factor is that Brian - in addition to nearly always getting his way creatively in the early years - also had a streak of amazing success, where the vast majority of what he released with The BBs was well-received by the public/critics, and it SOLD and did well on the charts. As the band's reputation took a nosedive, and Brian was dealing with his own second-guessing of his own work, he sadly ALSO at this time - when he was beginning to be artistically crippled by this internalized second-guessing - sadly secondarily had to deal with wondering if the songs that he'd release would even sell worth a damn, and if anyone in the public would really care. It was a double whammy for his self-confidence, and I think after trying really hard to make super A-level contributions for Sunflower - and having it tank so profoundly commercially - this was something he never fully recovered from.

Many artists will tell you that the hardest thing it might be to do is to put one's heart and soul into a project and have it fall flat (in terms of how it is received by those around the artist, or the public)... and this sad cycle of losing full confidence in his work - IMHO -  led Brian's ambition, and thus his creativity, to slowly fade over the years. Luckily he still has the urge and inclination to write music sometimes, and if the right collaborator comes along, it can cause some magic to happen for sure - but overall the early massive success set in motion expectations that couldn't be sustainable over the years.

And as VDP put it in the Beautiful Dreamer doc, if ANYONE as an artist deserved to not have their artistic vision questioned, it was Brian Douglas Wilson. That wholly accurate statement, and the way that concept was not adhered to by those in Brian's circle (sometimes for some perfectly understandable, human reasons, and sometimes for other much more nefarious reasons) is IMHO the chief reason why Brian's ambition to finish projects and see stuff though to completion became spotty. He needed a safety net, and his safety net failed him too many times.

Brian eventually basically said "f*ck it" out of self-preservation, and whatever amount of himself he began giving to projects (which gradually became less than the 100% he gave in the early days) ensured that disappointments wouldn't hurt quite as bad anymore when they inevitably happened again and again.

IMHO, the way that Brian was for years sadly mind-f*cked by those around him, and the way those around him have reacted in an attempt to get Brian back to a more productive state - even with the very, very best of intentions - has had mixed results over the years, for sure. I, just like so many others, just want Brian to be happy first and foremost. Anything else that we are gifted with musically from Brian at this point is a true gift and blessing. I'm sure many agree that that Brian's current band and emotional safety net would have done wonders for his self-confidence and ability to finish projects had they been at his disposal decades earlier.
44  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My failed \ on: September 27, 2021, 07:22:14 PM
Hi CD!

Yeah, that tripped me out that Weird Al played on three Brian/SI tracks. "Rainbow Eyes" (the original recording) is actually one of my favorite BW pieces. It kinda gave me hope to hear that small segment during the "Brian's Song" 20/20 special that it wasn't all bad news.

Tante

For as famous and beloved as Weird Al is, it's a surprisingly little-known and little-discussed fact. I hope one day somebody gets to ask him about it, it would be worth it just to see the look on Al's  face to have somebody even know that he did those tracks - deep cuts!

Although I assume that any/all memories that Al might have about those tracks would probably be tainted by some weird Landy goings on.  

I have to wonder, was Al simply asked to perform on those tracks as a way to rope in some celebrity connection to the album? Was he a big fan of Brian Wilson? That certainly wouldn't be hard to believe. I just wonder how he wound up doing them, was he asked, and how did all that go down... I've never heard of any connection between him and Brian or Brian's people so I wonder how they did get connected.

Come to think of it, there needs to be a Weird Al Jardine collab.
45  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: My failed \ on: September 27, 2021, 06:17:48 PM

"Weird Al" also played accordian on "Rainbow Eyes" and "Angel"!

 

Side note: I met Weird Al several years ago, and sincerely regret that I completely brain-farted and forgot to ask him about working with Brian Wilson. D'oh!

I wonder how many times he's been asked that. I can't think many, especially how obscure and unreleased the material was that Al worked on.
46  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Misheard lyric favorites on: September 26, 2021, 10:20:49 AM
For years - no joke - this is what I incorrectly misheard a lyric as : "There's a black person in my soul" - Water Builds Up
47  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 26, 2021, 10:09:02 AM
One of my favorite moments on the box that I've recently discovered is the live version of "long promised road", particularly when Carl starts singing "yeah, yeah" repeatedly during the bridge. It just feels like he's really getting into the groove of it.

I haven't deep dived into the live recordings of this era, so I don't know if that was just something that he did off the cuff this one performance, or if it was more of a recurring thing when they would play this song during the era, does anybody know?
48  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: May 1, 1971 Footage on: September 24, 2021, 08:30:26 AM
Proof that the hippies really DID dig the Boys again by this time, after having banished them to the "square, has-beens" wasteland for a good four years or so. I think the beards helped!

It's very interesting trying to wrap my head around watching this. The footage is phenomenal and I'm so glad it exists.

C-man, I'd say your statement is only partly right! Smiley I think a good amount of hippies were still trying their best to give the band the cold shoulder at this time. But the camera can see it changing a bit in front of us, too. It's a transitional period that got documented.

Watching the crowd react to the band is also really a trip, it almost seems like more members of the crowd "want" to dance around and enjoy the music, but perhaps some of them think they are too cool for school and wind up looking a bit standoffish.

But nevertheless some other people are dancing (it would appear to be a relatively small amount of the crowd), and that almost gives "permission" for other hipsters in the crowd to start bopping their heads and outwardly enjoy the music as well.

Around this time period, I think some young people were second-guessing what was socially acceptable to like and enjoy. I mean, I'm sure people had their tastes legitimately change anyway, and some people just didn't really dig The BBs anymore...but there was also a secondary matter of how much some people were willing to outwardly show they were enjoying music (being performed by musicians who for the last several years had largely been thought of by the hipster elite as being "squares") in the event that showing enjoyment would cause some sort of social repercussions in their elite social group.

From a social perspective and trying to understand "The BBs are unhip and very uncool" wilderness years mentality, and how that perception wound up changing and turning around, this is truly an invaluable historical document. It's almost like you can begin to see the cracks in that perception here. Also this is particularly interesting because this wasn't a "Beach Boys show", it was a festival with multiple bands, so you're seeing the reaction of many people who are just seeing the band inadvertently, who likely didn't go there for the specific reason to see The BBs play.
49  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Audree Wilson on Is It True What They Say About Dixie on: September 22, 2021, 11:44:52 PM
It seems like Murry's musical influence on the Wilson trio has been overstated, and Audree's understated. Murry was definitely the one Brian was trying to impress, but as far as actual passing on of skill, Audree was clearly the better singer. It would make more sense to assume that Brian, Carl and Dennis learnt to sing by listening to her, not their dad.

Spot on
50  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 22, 2021, 09:09:34 AM
Has there ever been any info on why My Solution was recorded in the 1st place?

There's no way this was ever done with the intent of it being an album track on any project, right?

I'm guessing it was just written/recorded for fun/as a goof, but wondering if anyone knows any other info.
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