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326  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: December 02, 2021, 05:54:12 AM
Just my perspective on this, but if the death of old friends is one of the supposed off-limits topics for the band/etc I would think that someone would’ve let Jason Fine know this before getting into a car with Brian for 70 hours. And while the band and other workers may know what subjects are taboo, Brian still does interviews, he sees people at the deli. It’s not like he is completely shut off from the outside world…I mean, I’m sure the guy knows how to use a TV remote and flips through channels, sees the news, etc. As in, it’s impossible to shelter Brian from everything, so why hide things like this from him (when it could possibly be mentally worse for the guy if he is blindsided by bad news).

Death is a part of life, and Brian is no stranger to it. I mean, Nicky Wonder unfortunately passed away and Brian paid homage to him in concert. To me, the simplest explanation is that Brian just forgets things from time to time, and Reiley’s passing is just one of those things.

There would no avoiding the sad death of Nicky W but the news of Jack R is different. He wasn't well known outside BB's circles and was there only for a brief fairly uncommercial period during the bands history. He's unlikely to make mainstream news. The chances of someone saying such things at the deli also seems slim IMO.


1) My point about Nicky Wonder is that Nicky was someone who Brian spent a lot of time with on a very long term basis and Brian didn't mentally break down because of the news - he was able to carry on with life in a normal fashion to the point of being able to pay homage to him in a concert following his death. Thus I doubt that his wife/doctors keep sad news from him because he can obviously handle it...even the news of Reiley...if Fine bringing it up was the first time Brian heard the news, you can see that Brian didn't go into a panic attack, he just seemed saddened by the news like any normal person would be if an old friend died.
2) My point about Brian watching the news wasn't tied in with Reiley but other people who Brian is/was close to who have already or will eventually die (who are more newsworthy - say, if McCartney passed away (yes I know he wasn't close to McCartney, but it would still be sad for Brian to hear, etc). My point is that it is impossible to shelter Brian from sad news 100% of the time.
3) My point about the deli is that Brian goes places, sees people in uncontrollable environments and thus it is possible for him to be blindsided by sad/bad news. Thus I doubt they keep sad news from Brian because there are chances that he will find out about it anyways.

It's very easy break down all that to make my point but we are not gonna agree so I'll leave it.

I mean, I don't mind having a discussion. And I'm not saying I'm right. I'm just saying what seems the most logical to me.

I do understand your point of view and it is very well possible that they shelter Brian from bad news. I guess what I'm saying is that it would be kinda irrational (on their part) if that is the case considering what happened with Jason Fine and Brian in the car...if they do shelter him I think that is worse than just telling him bad news in a controlled environment (than Brian being blindsided by it in an uncontrolled environment). That's all.
327  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: December 02, 2021, 05:32:44 AM
Just my perspective on this, but if the death of old friends is one of the supposed off-limits topics for the band/etc I would think that someone would’ve let Jason Fine know this before getting into a car with Brian for 70 hours. And while the band and other workers may know what subjects are taboo, Brian still does interviews, he sees people at the deli. It’s not like he is completely shut off from the outside world…I mean, I’m sure the guy knows how to use a TV remote and flips through channels, sees the news, etc. As in, it’s impossible to shelter Brian from everything, so why hide things like this from him (when it could possibly be mentally worse for the guy if he is blindsided by bad news).

Death is a part of life, and Brian is no stranger to it. I mean, Nicky Wonder unfortunately passed away and Brian paid homage to him in concert. To me, the simplest explanation is that Brian just forgets things from time to time, and Reiley’s passing is just one of those things.

There would no avoiding the sad death of Nicky W but the news of Jack R is different. He wasn't well known outside BB's circles and was there only for a brief fairly uncommercial period during the bands history. He's unlikely to make mainstream news. The chances of someone saying such things at the deli also seems slim IMO.


1) My point about Nicky Wonder is that Nicky was someone who Brian spent a lot of time with on a very long term basis and Brian didn't mentally break down because of the news - he was able to carry on with life in a normal fashion to the point of being able to pay homage to him in a concert following his death. Thus I doubt that his wife/doctors keep sad news from him because he can obviously handle it...even the news of Reiley...if Fine bringing it up was the first time Brian heard the news, you can see that Brian didn't go into a panic attack, he just seemed saddened by the news like any normal person would be if an old friend died.
2) My point about Brian watching the news wasn't tied in with Reiley but other people who Brian is/was close to who have already or will eventually die (who are more newsworthy - say, if McCartney passed away (yes I know he wasn't close to McCartney, but it would still be sad for Brian to hear, etc). My point is that it is impossible to shelter Brian from sad news 100% of the time.
3) My point about the deli is that Brian goes places, sees people in uncontrollable environments and thus it is possible for him to be blindsided by sad/bad news. Thus I doubt they keep sad news from Brian because there are chances that he will find out about it anyways.
328  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: December 02, 2021, 04:33:21 AM
Just my perspective on this, but if the death of old friends is one of the supposed off-limits topics for the band/etc I would think that someone would’ve let Jason Fine know this before getting into a car with Brian for 70 hours. And while the band and other workers may know what subjects are taboo, Brian still does interviews, he sees people at the deli. It’s not like he is completely shut off from the outside world…I mean, I’m sure the guy knows how to use a TV remote and flips through channels, sees the news, etc. As in, it’s impossible to shelter Brian from everything, so why hide things like this from him (when it could possibly be mentally worse for the guy if he is blindsided by bad news).

Death is a part of life, and Brian is no stranger to it. I mean, Nicky Wonder unfortunately passed away and Brian paid homage to him in concert. To me, the simplest explanation is that Brian just forgets things from time to time, and Reiley’s passing is just one of those things.
329  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is it fair to call for an artist to quit? on: December 01, 2021, 02:21:03 PM
Yeah I hear ya. It's one reason that I will never join that forum....wayyyyyy too much history of bullshit from a cadre of people there. So yeah, I agree that "fans" like that are...unique...to put it kindly.

I do think that others (there and here) don't mean harm by their calls for Brian to retire. But I wish those people would put themselves in Brian's shoes - imagine someone forcing (or even just calling for) you to retire from something you love doing - that is a cruel thing to do, especially when you're not harming anyone by trying to record some songs.
330  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is it fair to call for an artist to quit? on: December 01, 2021, 12:27:31 PM
Anybody calling for Brian to quit is not a real fan. Sorry, but it has to be said.

While I understand your sentiments, I think some people who make this wish/request (for Brian to quit) do so out of love for Brian. The post that sparked this topic talked about Brian possibly embarrassing himself by releasing any more underwhelming tunes (I am paraphrasing here, not the OPs actual words). And like Bossaroo said above, "for many years, fans have seemed unsure just how much Brian wanted to be out on tour and worried that he's been forced into it somehow"...and given the amount of disinformation plastered on these forums (and PMs) it doesn't surprise me that people would want Brian to quit for his own mental well being. So in that regard I can see why people would want Brian to take a break and bow out, as he has a lifetime of achievement under his belt and doesn't need to prove anything else - But I think that this outlook completely overlooks how the creative mind works.

Bossaroo is on point with this: "I think time has shown that Brian does indeed enjoy performing his music to appreciative audiences, he enjoys being active, and he enjoys the camaraderie his band provides."

And I really wish people would take that to heart. And, like Bossaroo, I have called for Mike himself to hang it up before...which wasn't fair of me to do so. In the last few years I have openly stated that I am happy that Mike likes to record, and I'm also happy that he and his band share some good tunes with people when he does concerts. I do wish that he did it under his own name, but that's my minuscule opinion that doesn't need to be elaborated on.

Basically, I think sometimes us fans can have weird opinions, but in the end, if Mike and Brian are happy and recording/performing wholesome tunes to spread some joy in the world, then nothing should stop them from doing that. Especially if most people are happy with the offerings at the end of the day, and since both Brian Wilson and the touring Beach Boys are still touring, obviously the coffers say that people still want to see these guys perform.
331  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: December 01, 2021, 11:43:10 AM
Yeah that could be the case. But I'd also think that since Brian is around a lot of people from time to time (recording studios, backstage at concerts, interviews) that his wife/management would tell him this stuff anyways because eventually he's probably going to hear the news. If he isn't told about emotionally troubling news, then he could potentially be blindsided with that news...if that's what happened with the Reiley information from Jason Fine on camera, that really isn't a great way to handle that type of stuff.
332  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is it fair to call for an artist to quit? on: December 01, 2021, 11:37:59 AM
As a professional artist, as long as there are people that support your art financially by paying to hear your music or see your concerts, then I don't see why any artist should quit their chosen vocation and means of income unless they want to. As an amateur or hobbyist, as long as making your art gives you joy, then anything else should be irrelevant. To answer the original question, no, it's not fair or even anyone's business to call for an artist to quit making their art, but people can make their opinion heard with their wallets.

Agreed. I think voting with one's wallet is completely fair - as well as telling your opinion about the work in reviews or on message boards.

Quoting myself on this board, back in 2018:
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...retirement is not a thing for someone like Brian.  Brian has never worked a 9-to-5 job.  He goes out on tour for a few weeks at a time, then is back home.  Not saying that touring is always easy, but it sure ain't breaking bricks in the hot sun.  Brian has a lot of time to be at home and do what he wants to do.  There's no daily grind that he needs to hang up and retire from.   A man needs a reason to get up in the morning, and not everyone just wants to lie around all day - that's how you end up dead.

The idea that someone has to "retire" after a certain age is outdated and frankly, offensive.  If a person is willing and able to do what they want to do, they should be allowed and encouraged to keep doing so.  Also, making music is not work for Brian.  It's as essential to him and air and food. 

I think that's what makes me sad about the calls for Brian to quit. What would people rather Brian be doing with his time? Brian should be doing whatever Brian wants to do (within the bounds of reason of course - I doubt his doctor would approve of him smoking weed all day watching Jeopardy haha). But if Brian makes music and wants to release it, why should anyone force him not to?
333  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Is it fair to call for an artist to quit? on: December 01, 2021, 10:11:03 AM
With all due respect, I'm curious what prompted this question? The only truly new music Brian has put out in the past five years is the newly written "Right Where I Belong," a song that seems to have been generally well received by fans, while the rest of the documentary soundtrack is re-recordings of old songs and previously unreleased demos. Otherwise, it's not as though Brian has been exactly churning out music for the past decade or so.

It was a post on another forum regarding the latest album/song from Brian. It wasn’t just regarding the music he puts out, but also his concerts. And yeah, I totally agree that most of the response to the latest offering has been positive. But I have heard more and more calls for Brian to quit in recent years, and most recently today.
334  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Is it fair to call for an artist to quit? on: December 01, 2021, 09:26:51 AM
I ask this question because more and more I see people saying that Brian should quit recording music and touring. Some of these opinions come from people who I respect and like as posters - so I'm not trying to call anyone out. But I'm really curious about this mindset.

As a creative myself, there's a line from 'Love and Mercy' that I think about quite often: Brian is having an argument with his father and says "I got different stuff inside me, I gotta get it out."

I write and record music. I do so partially as part of my job, but also partially as a hobby. The music I make as a hobby I sometimes post it on the internet. I will admit that my hobby music isn't great music, but I LOVE making it. I love how it sounds to me. But it would break my heart if someone told me I was embarrassing myself by posting that music. It would really hurt if someone told me to quit.

I guess that's why I pose this question. Because it seems like a really hurtful thing to request/wish upon an artist...even an artist like Brian Wilson who reached this upper echelon of musical brilliance who now isn't making music on that level. So because he's not making music on a Pet Sounds level (or even maybe on a Friends level) do we as fans have a right to wish him to quit making his art? Imagine if when Brian was destroying his voice in the 70s, and people told him to quit because of a few bad songs, and he never made music again? That would be a travesty considering the beautiful music he has made since then.

Creatives do have things inside of them they want to share - I don't think that ever goes away. So if Brian wants to make music, no matter how imperfect the vocal line, he should be able to do that. And if we don't like the music he sells, the beauty of the free market is that we don't need to buy products that we don't like. In fact, with a streaming service you don't even have to buy the product...you can listen to 30 seconds of it and see if it's something you want to devote any more time to.

As fans are we meant to be the judges of when someone should quit? We can absolutely be the judges of whether or not we want to listen to an artist or not. But I don't see the fairness in trying to be some kind of gatekeeper of Brian's dignity.

I'm not trying to stifle opinions - on the contrary, the more music Brian puts out, the more we have to critique. But if we make calls for him to quit, and he one day possibly reads those calls and quits making music, then we have nothing to hear, nothing to share an opinion about.

Anyways, I'd love to hear opinions from everyone about this. I don't want to argue about it, but to try and understand the mindset. You've heard my opinion above and I'd like to hear anyone else's take on the matter.
335  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: December 01, 2021, 06:22:36 AM
I don’t know. It just seems to me that old rock stars have better things to do than dictating random social media posts. I mean, we know that Brian has answered folks at times, but it’s usually been a distinct event or one night only kind of thing. In a case like this, I could see somebody writing the message, showing it to BW for sign off, and him nodding while barely paying attention. And I might be wrong!

Yeah, I can definitely see them writing some copy for him to sign off on in some cases. But when it comes to the passing of certain people, it would seem really inappropriate for them to write these short statements claiming they are from Brian (when they could just as easy be honest and sign them "from all of us in the Wilson family" or something). Like I say, I can't see Brian initiating the creation of these social media posts, but I can see his wife or someone asking him for a short statement. I don't think he's that busy (or incapable) to do such a thing. But I have no idea what goes on in this guy's life, so you could be very correct.
336  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian going on tour with Chicago next summer on: December 01, 2021, 06:15:53 AM
This is intriguing! I'm hoping that add some dates that are closer to home than the current ones...otherwise I probably won't be able to go.
337  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) on: December 01, 2021, 06:14:37 AM
I really love the "new" version of Must Be a Miracle. I wonder if there's any other re-recordings of the Paley material we haven't heard yet?

The vocal on it sounds much closer to Imagination-era than the Paley sessions, but the backing track doesn't have that sheen from Imagination.

We know that Brian, Andy and Don Was produced a track for The Beach Boys in 1995, so that's probably what this is, with later vocals. There's also a version of God Did It with Brian singing lead from the same period, and a few other whole songs that haven't been bootlegged. Release it all!!!

+1

I'd bet the Paley Sessions will be out before too long. Maybe there's a little appetite for a 30th anniversary deluxe package ? ?

It wouldn't be inconceivable for these leftover Paley tracks to find their way on some kind of release eventually but an anniversary box set commemorating them?  Highly unlikely.  If this soundtrack is any indicator, then dare I assert that the Paley era was mostly overrated, as the majority of songs really don't have much appeal to most folks save for the unconditional die-hards.  I guess if you really wanted a sequel to the Love You album then you might like these songs.  But having listened to this soundtrack it's very obvious why BW and the other Beach Boys abandoned these songs. 

I guess it's all up to one's personal taste. Must Be A Miracle and Slightly American Music have been stuck in my head since I first heard the soundtrack. I remember other Paley era recordings/compositions being really cool. I like the creativity associated with these songs - they aren't really trying to copy a previous era of Brian Wilson tunes (kinda like Gershwin and Disney) but are instead their own thing.

Personally I would love to see a career spanning boxset - Brian remixes the Imagination album and takes out the hokey AC sounds, we get a better mix of TLOS, the original mix of Gershwin, outtakes from those eras, the awesome demos from the TLOS era, the Paley songs. If there is any cool studio chatter from the Paul McCartney collaboration that would be great. I would LOVE it if Lana Del Rey OK'd the release of her vocal take of 'Last Song' for such a set.

Honestly there is something for everyone in his solo career. I'm not sure how feasible a physical set would be, but even a digital set would be tremendous for us.
338  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 30, 2021, 06:41:03 AM
I doubt very much that Brian has anything to do with expression of sympathy social media posts. Why would he?

Really? I'd just find it highly disingenuous if they write a post for him and sign his name if he had nothing to do with it. I mean, I highly doubt that Brian logs into Twitter and types these posts out himself, but I also don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that Brian is asked to write something down for his social media team to share on social media.

If someone is writing that stuff for him and signing his name "love and mercy, Brian" I think that's really lousy and disingenuous. (For the Reiley post I don't think he signed it in his name, but the writing implies that he wrote it. And other posts his name is signed).
339  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 30, 2021, 05:55:05 AM
Anyone else want to box Jason Fine's ears when he ambushed Brian with info that Jack Rieley had passed away? Brian looked like he might have liked to.

As someone posted, brian posted on instagram when jack died a small tribute to him, so he mustive known he died, but just forgot....

Yeah, I think Brian just has a rather poor memory when it comes to some things (like Pacific Ocean Blue). Some may speculate that Brian is just pulling someone's leg - but really who benefits from this? Brian looked legit saddened by the news of Reiley passing away. And some may speculate that the Instagram/Twitter statement was written by a handler in Brian's tone. This suggests that either Brian was never told about Reiley's death, or that Brian doesn't have the capacity to write a short statement about the passing of an old friend. I'm sure Brian was told of Reiley's passing and he was probably asked to write a short tribute to the guy. And over the last couple years he had forgotten about Reiley's passing.

I mean, is it that far fetched that a nearly 80 year old man who spent years of his life addicted to cocaine, who then spent a decade+ being pumped full of pharmaceuticals may not have the best memory in the world?

It's sad to me what some people speculate about Brian's life.
340  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beatles' Get Back documentary (BB content) on: November 30, 2021, 05:18:24 AM
The underlying footage of the Beatles is just so unbelievable, it must have cost a fortune in film stock alone. And of course the cameras did not exactly create a creative working environment, so its almost certainly for the best that the Beach Boys never tried something similar. But man, what I would give for even a half hour of 32 mm color film showing Brian and the band working in the 60s! The Good Vibrations footage in the new Brian doc is more than I ever expected to see, of course, but it's amazing what a difference the higher quality film stock makes. In the Beatles footage, you're *there*, it's unbelievable.

FWIW, the Beatles' footage is actually 16mm film.   But I agree with you that the picture quality is absolutely incredible.  There's no graininess or color distortion at all.  You say it well: it's like you're there.  It looks like it could have been filmed yesterday.  Kudos to whatever Peter Jackson and his team did to scan and digitize this film.  And kudos to the Beatles and Michael Lindsay Hogg for spending freely back in the day on the original footage.   It's an absolute grand slam.

I heard Jackson used the same technology that he used with 'They Shall Not Grow Old' - in the film it is stunning to see the transition from choppy black&white footage to smooth, crisp, large color footage. I highly recommend that film to anyone as well.
341  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 29, 2021, 07:40:05 AM
I just watched the documentary and have to say that I am overwhelmed emotionally. I cried at several points. Seeing Brian recording in the studio was a joyous experience for me. And I have to say that I’m kind of ashamed of the occasional criticism of Brian’s vocals, or performance, or songwriting that occur when people review “Brian Wilson”.  He is 79 years old.  He will never again sound like he did when he was 22 or 33 or 60. He has trouble walking around. Brian won’t do another Pet Sounds, I’m fairly sure.  But, my lord, he has given me more joy in my life that any other artist, by far.  To simply see him and hear him, that’s enough for me.  The guy is still LIVING, for goodness sake.  Look at what the man has given all of us, for nearly 60 years!  I truly love this man and thank him for giving me so many happy moments in my life. God bless Brian.

It is baffling to me the firepower people into their criticisms of Brian. Also the constant calls for Brian to quit touring or quit making music (moreso the former). If one doesn't like the music, don't buy the product. If one doesn't like his concerts, don't buy the ticket. But yet people outright call for Brian to "hang it up" - how about you just accept that Brian is a human being who wants to give a concert. If it sucks then people will stop buying tickets. But I think most people get a TON of joy out of seeing Brian and his band perform a concert. Hence, the concerts keep taking place.

Casey Hardmeyer from PopMatters did a scathing review of NPP when that was released. He actually joined the forum to defend his review - I don't remember it going too well for him here. But really, when a guy in his mid-70s (who has a slew of mental disorders) records and releases an album, maybe don't spend half your review mocking the guy? I think because Brian gets balled up into the "Managers/Handlers" category that people think it's fair to completely trash an album because "maybe" Brian had very little to do with it. And meanwhile, according to people who are there, unless he's working with Jeff Beck, Brian works his ass off when he makes a record these days.

People complain about the autotune - it's like it's 1966 and someone notices the sped up tape of 'Caroline, No' and they bitch about vocal manipulation...meanwhile, just listen to the song, and it's beautiful even with the manipulation - that's how I feel about Brian's recent career. There may be odd studio quirks here and there, and some of the songs I will possibly skip, but overall there are moments of pure beauty in that music that no other artist has come close to achieving.

And granted, there are some songs that I don't like from Brian's recent catalogue, but I don't think that gives any fan the right to say that the man needs to quit music. Mike Love makes music that I don't listen to, but I'm happy that he seems to like recording music - he is 80 years old and has more than earned the right to record whatever music he wants to. And that's the way it should be for Brian.

I'm just happy that he is doing what he loves at his age - not many people (especially with his history of mental health and chemical dependency issues) get to do such a thing. Brian has been blessed in so many ways - I mean, he could have died decades ago from ODing. But he is instead still around and still making music - so not only is he blessed, but WE are blessed too, and some of us don't even know it or appreciate it.
342  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beatles' Get Back documentary (BB content) on: November 29, 2021, 06:59:11 AM
It's subtle but when Paul mentions Mike Love, he pulls a face that suggests (to me at least) he found him a bit of an ass.  LOL

Yeah there's something there he's alluding to. I can't say whether or not it was Paul suggesting that Mike was an ass, but there definitely is something there.

It is cool that Mike gets mentioned right after someone mentions the lyrics to 'Back in the USSR' and Paul is like "Yeah yeah!" and he immediately brings up Mike Love because of it.

Also hearing Paul mention The Beach Boys (regarding the 8 track) made me smile - I honestly don't even know why. I think since The Beach Boys are my favorite band, its great to hear the greatest band acknowledge their existence (even in this case when it's just about an 8-track recorder).

AWESOME documentary and it makes me sad that The Beach Boys won't really have anything like this. This was such an intimate view of the Beatles and it really helped me appreciate their talent so much more. It's amazing how each episode seemed to fly by even though they were almost all 2 1/2 hours long a piece. The documentary was great at explaining the timeline of things - so I was surprised it never did a simple explanation of what happened with the Let It Be album (Phil Spector being handed the tapes, etc). But overall that was by far the best music related 'documentary' I've ever seen.
343  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) on: November 27, 2021, 10:26:12 AM
So it’s been years since I’ve listened to any Paley era recordings - and whatever bootleg I had I’m pretty sure it was transferred via a wax cylinder recorder from the 1800s. Basically, hearing these mixes my mind is blown away at how good that material sounds. Slightly American Music is CRAZY good - I’m not sure I had ever heard that before, and to my ears that’s gotta be one of Brian’s best solo compositions. I mean what the hell - it’s like a wall-of-sound of all this great music rolled into one. I’ve been playing that on repeat constantly.

Anywho, I don’t know much about the mixes to even comment on the quality. Honestly I love how these sound so I won’t be complaining about it.

On the newer songs, the instrumentals sound great, and while you can tell that Brian is aging, he sounds confident behind the mic on those tracks.



^also thank you KoolKoolWater1 on Reddit LOL
344  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Song Question on: November 24, 2021, 02:42:07 PM
Wirestone, I was hoping someone would do a breakdown of those tracks and you greatly exceeded my expectations! Thanks much!
345  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New 'I'm In Great Shape' video on: November 23, 2021, 01:02:06 PM
This was really enjoyable! The narrative and the artwork helped the music flow well. Great work!
346  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 23, 2021, 12:55:29 PM
There is a bit of a sense of trying to sell the viewer too hard on Brian's genius though some of these interview clips; a bit like a McCartney doc.

Despite the generous amount of cheerleading from interview subjects, I don't know how this film would play to non-fans; I don't know if it gets deep enough to really fully *show* his genius and talent.

This is my only issue with this documentary. I know this was less of an informative documentary and it was meant to pull on your heartstrings (which I think it did perfectly), but how I wish someone like Philip Lambert had been interviewed even to show up for just 3 minutes on film explaining WHY those chord changes are genius...sprinkle in a little bit of music theory (or whatever you want to call it) just to help back up the claims. It's one thing to keep saying "genius" over again, but it's another to quickly show why Brian has a level of talent that has hardly been topped (if it ever has) by other songwriters. Lambert was great at doing just that in the Songwriter documentary.
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BTW the iTunes Extras are really cool. And by "Extras" it is just one full 15 minute piece that has some extra car, other footage, and some interviews. There is a really beautiful segment that shows a lot of Audree Wilson photos/footage that I have never seen before, and overtop that montage Audree is heard on a very crisp recording singing wonderfully the tune "Is It True What They Say About Dixie" (I'm sure others here know of this recording but I have never heard it before) - really funny dialogue between her and Brian. The 15 minute clips ends rather abruptly.

Highlight of this segment was after spending time at Hawthorne High Brian yells to Jason "I wanna split after this, I've seen enough of this damn place!" LOL
347  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Song Question on: November 23, 2021, 12:26:49 PM

Thanks for linking that!

Tracklist for the album:

01. Right Where I Belong
02. I’m Goin Home
03. It’s Not Easy Being Me
04. Must Be a Miracle
05. Slightly American Music
06. It’s O.K.
07. Rock & Roll Has Got a Hold On Me
08. The Night Was So Young
09. Honeycomb
10. Long Promised Road
11. In My Room Live from the Ryman Auditorium
12. I’m Broke
348  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Song Question on: November 23, 2021, 09:10:06 AM
Thanks, Aomdiddlywalla!!

While I love the majority of the track (and really think it is one of the better compositions/recordings of Brian's solo career), I do wish that Brian had done a couple more takes for that opening and re-occuring line "For me, the loves, that's what the music really is". The "is" (at least I think it is supposed to be "is"?) is completely warped and distorted (I think both vocally and via audio manipulation to the point you can't really tell what he is singing. Not trying to nitpick it, but for such an incredible song it seems like a vast oversight.

Outside of that, the production is perfect - the tone of that piano works so well against Brian's vocal, and I love the buildup.

Can't tell you how blessed we are as fans of The Beach Boys to get all these new songs, this new documentary, and who knows whats around the corner.
349  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: November 22, 2021, 10:13:35 AM
The Cadillac moment is fun.

 I also got a kick out of Brian's excitement about seeing Vanna White at the deli.

Speaking of the Beverly Glen deli, it's also a slightly funny moment when Brian tells Jason to park in the handicapped spot and Jason is hesitant but Brian says he parks there all the time.  It kind of comes off as humorous in the sense of "rock star parks wherever the hell he wants."  At the same time, as a gentleman in his late 70s with back and knee issues, Brian would almost certainly be entitled to a CA handicapped placard if he or his people were to obtain a note from his physician.

LOL I didn't notice that part at all! Must look for that on my second viewing.
350  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Song Question on: November 22, 2021, 06:25:50 AM
According to the documentary’s official Instagram, the soundtrack comes out next Friday.  I asked about it under the most recent post.

From the Long Promised Road thread. No doubt the new song will be on there as well as (hopefully) all the stuff Brian was recording in the studio in the film.
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