I was wondering, has there been any reaction from Mike about Brian's death? I just hopped on his Twitter page and there's nothing about it.

Yes, it's on his Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/p/DKxscKEB10n/

"Today, the world lost a genius, and I lost a cousin by blood and my partner in music.

Brian Wilson wasn’t just the heart of The Beach Boys—he was the soul of our sound. From the first time we sang together as kids in my living room, I knew there was something otherworldly in him. His musical gifts were unmatched. The melodies he dreamed up, the emotions he poured into every note—Brian changed the course of music forever.

Our journey together was filled with moments of brilliance, heartbreak, laughter, complexity and most of all, LOVE . Like all families, we had our ups and downs. But through it all, we never stopped loving each other, and I never stopped being in awe of what he could do when he sat at a piano or his spontaneity in the studio.

Brian’s unique artistry and our collaboration gave the world the American dream of optimism, joy, and a sense of freedom—music that made people feel good, made them believe in an endless summer and endless possibilities. It was one of the greatest blessings of my life to experience that creative space with him.

It was our privilege to make the world believe in sunshine, surfing, and teenage dreams. My life was forever changed by Pet Sounds, God Only Knows, In My Room, Good Vibrations, The Warmth of the Sun and a hundred other pieces of his soul wrapped in music. He allowed us to show the world what vulnerability and brilliance sound like in harmony. He was fragile, he was intense, he was funny—and he was one of a kind.

My wife, Jacquelyne, and I are heartbroken. She stood beside me through so many chapters of this story, and we both send our love and prayers to Brian’s family, his children, and all who were touched by his life and gifts.

Brian, you once asked, “Wouldn’t it be nice if we were older?” Now you are timeless. May you rest in the peace you so deeply deserve, surrounded by the heavenly music you helped create. May your spirit soar as high as your falsetto, may your wings spread in effortless flight.

Thank you for the harmonies, the memories, and the love. Death leaves a heartache no one can heal, Love leaves a memory no one can steal.

I’ll miss you forever, my beloved cousin.
– Mike"

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/articles/brian-wilson-cause-death-revealed-175854173.html

🥺

Wow, he was in really bad shape! :-(

Yeah that was very hard to read. Seems like a fair bit of it stemmed from his kidneys , and that he’d been sick for longer than we knew.

Just occurred to me we still don’t know what happened to Melinda.

My heart goes out to their kids…I lost both my parents about the same length apart

I think Melinda’s passing has been surprisingly undiscussed. There are a lot of mysteries.

— Why wasn’t she seen in public after 2015?
— What role did or didn’t she have in BW’s career after that point?
— What actually happened with BW’s bad back surgery in 2018/19?
— Did BW face challenges a lot earlier than anyone suspected?

I suspect a lot of things went on over these final years that we may learn in times to come. And some will likely be really challenging to take.

Regarding Brian, Al said Brian declined a lot after a case of Covid and there were issues with oxygen. Covid can damage pretty much every organ, and Brian probably already had existing issues (given his age). My own father declined mentally after getting Covid and has now been diagnosed with dementia.

Regarding Melinda, no idea, but I remember thinking she seemed a little frail during the Love and Mercy promotion, and we didn't really see her after that. However, she lived many more years, and no one seems to have made arrangements for Brian and/or the kids in case of her death (hence the family's rush to make arrangements/a conservatorship to protect the kids after she died). I keep thinking about those kids, many of whom are still so young.

 

Darlene Loves Instagram:
Today I lost a dear friend and the world lost a true musical genius — Brian Wilson. I’ve known Brian since the very beginning of my career through Lou Adler, and over the years, we shared unforgettable memories, both on stage and in the studio.

From singing backup on Beach Boys tracks to sharing moments of laughter and harmony during his solo projects, Brian was more than a collaborator — he was family. His creativity knew no limits, and his heart was just as big as his talent.

One of his favorite Christmas songs was Christmas (Baby Please Come Home), and I was always so touched by how much that meant to him. We shared a deep respect for each other’s gifts, and I always said, “The world always needs to see and hear Brian Wilson.” That’s never been more true than it is today.

Rest easy, Brian. Your music, your spirit, and your soul will live on forever. 🕊️💙🎶

Mike's tribute got me choked up. More tributes below. Some were reprinted in Pitchfork, but I keep finding others.

 Sean Lennon: “Anyone who really knows me knows how heart broken I am about Brian Wilson passing,” wrote Sean Ono Lennon, whose late father, John Lennon, was a Wilson contemporary and known Beach Boys fan. “Not many people influenced me as much as he did. I feel very lucky that I was able to meet him and spend some time with him. He was always very kind and generous. He was our American Mozart. A one of a kind genius from another world."

Fred Vail: “Sixty-two years, that’s how long we were buddies. Some great memories, some great moments. They all fly back at me: meeting them at the old house in Hawthorne; sitting on the floor at Capitol, when he mastered Pet Sounds; at Columbia, when we recorded ‘Good Vibrations’; and then all the shows at the auditorium in Sacramento that I emceed.”

John Cusack: “The maestro has passed - Brian was a raw open heart with two legs - and an ear that heard the angels - quite literally. He was touched. To see him so happy with his wife Melinda - finally talking about and performing his unfinished masterpiece Smile , (after the release of the astounding Smile sessions) - to hear him be so open about the depth of his struggles so that the telling of his story might help others and take away the stigma of mental health - was to see a triumph of endurance and spirit , love and Mercy .”

Bob Dylan: “Heard the sad news about Brian today and thought about all the years I’ve been listening to him and admiring his genius. Rest in peace dear Brian.”

Carole King: "“Brian Wilson was my friend and my brother in songwriting,” wrote Carole King. “We shared a similar sensibility, as evidenced by his 4 over 5 chord under ‘Aaaah!’ in ‘Good Vibrations; and mine under ‘I’m Into Something Good.’ We once discussed who used it first, and in the end we decided it didn’t matter. The world will miss Brian, but we are so lucky to have his music.”

Elton John:  “Brian Wilson was always so kind to me from the day I met him. He sang ‘Someone Saved My Life Tonight’ at a tribute concert in 2003, and it was an extraordinary moment for me. I played on his solo records, he sang on my album, The Union, and even performed for my AIDS Foundation. I grew to love him as a person, and for me, he was the biggest influence on my songwriting ever; he was a musical genius and revolutionary. He changed the goalposts when it came to writing songs and shaped music forever. A true giant.”

Paul McCartney: "Brian had that mysterious sense of musical genius that made his songs so achingly special. The notes he heard in his head and passed to us were simple and brilliant at the same time. I loved him, and was privileged to be around his bright shining light for a little while. How we will continue without Brian Wilson, ‘God Only Knows’." (Carnie's response on Insta: "Sir Paul thank you for your friendship. He absolutely adored you. You know that. 💔"

John Cale: "To me, Brian Wilson was not merely about surf music, rather a true musical genius toiling away at melding POP into startling sophistication.  He will he be missed mightily."

Randy Bachman: “I’ve known the Beach boys since the mid 60’s and have done lots of shows with them. They were the American answer to the Beatles. They wowed everyone with the songs, structures, vocals harmonies. The sunshine sound. I remember when Brian decided to not go on the road anymore but continued to write incredible music. They were like family.”

Questlove (there's more to this one on his Instagram): “If there was a human being who made art out of inexpressible sadness….damn it was Brian Wilson. I hate he went thru what he went thru to create this album (also: Smile Outakes in my North Star) but man——without him I dunno how so many that came after felt safe to express a feeling of sadness that most humans would be otherwise ridiculed/punished for.”

Mick Fleetwood: "Anyone with a musical bone in their body must be grateful for Brian Wilson’s genius magical touch !! And greatly saddened of this major worldly loss!! My thoughts go out to his family and friends"

Maybe it's because I'm preparing myself for my father's death (you do that when you have a parent with dementia), but I'm trying to be grateful that we had Brian on this Earth for so long. He gave us so much--he's leaving us with so much. I'm also grateful that I got to see him perform live and work with a truly great band that adored his music. I hope he had some moments of peace and happiness in his life and that his last years brought some artistic and personal fulfillment.

I don't know if I believe in any kind of afterlife, but at the risk of sounding corny, I hope he's at peace now, wherever he is.

I'm thinking of his children, who (the younger ones) lost their mom not that long ago. They'll be in a lot of pain. I hope they have a support system.

The obvious implication is that Melinda wasn't welcoming toward her. And that's very sad.  No one owes us as fans any sort of explanation as to what was going on and why, but it's very strange. Clearly there were many periods over the past two decades when Brian and Carnie were in fairly regular contact and other periods when contact was strained. There often two sides to every story. Was Melinda just being a brat? Or if she was squeezing out Carnie and Wendy, did she have legit reason for doing so?

That's interesting. My father is in his 80s and I have a stepmother. They've been together for about 20 years. My father is not as mentally sharp as he used to be...memory problems, etc. And as time goes on, he's more and more dependent on my stepmother because I think he gets lonely and has fewer outlets. And he doesn't really call me. I call him, but he doesn't call me. And he isn't really into talking on the phone for very long. But when she goes out of town, he's very dependent on me and my sister. So it's, "What are we doing for lunch? What are we doing for dinner? What are you up to today?" My stepmother does not try to keep us apart. Quite the contrary, because his dependence on her is draining at times. So I wonder if it's something like that. Now, with Melinda gone, he reaches out to Carnie more or wants to talk to her more, but it's more him than Melinda.

Or not. Every situation is different.

Listening to part 2 now, and really enjoying it. I don't know anything about this host and probably won't listen to much more of his podcast, but it's interesting to hear about Brian and the Beach Boys from Carnie's perspective. She knows she's not an expert. There are enough experts out there, and she has something else to offer. She clearly loves her dad, even though he wasn't always a great parent.

I also like Carnie a lot. She may not be everyone's cup of tea, but I think she's similar to Brian in many ways. She's herself, says what she wants, and doesn't care what anyone else thinks. She seems like a kind, loving person. I don't care about her salty language. She's not hurting anyone--just cursing a bit!

Carnie is the guest on the Discograffiti podcast.

Here's the description:
"Carnie assured me she’s never done an interview like this in her life, so it’s an honor for Discograffiti’s “Beach Boys: And Your Dreams Come True” Series to have had this opportunity. Here, then, is Part 1 of the longest interview Carnie’s ever given, and on a subject she rarely talks about…her father’s band, and what it means to her. She picked 7 of the most important Beach Boys albums of her life (plus a solo LP), which, if taken together, form a patchwork quilt that defines the essence of Dad as she knows him. We, of course, know him as Brian Wilson, and so rarely do we get to have such an intimate glimpse of him.

Here’s just a few of the many things Carnie discusses with Discograffiti in this podcast:

Her father’s typical breakfast in the 1970s;
Carnie’s memories of Grandpa Murry;
How her parents felt about her Playboy appearance;
What music’s been playing uninterrupted on a loop for the last 19 years in Carnie’s home;
Carnie’s fraught experiences while being looked after by Dr. Eugene Landy;
And her feelings on Pet Sounds and Friends!
Listen: linktr.ee/discograffiti"

Carnie posted photos and videos from Brian's birthday party on her Instagram. Brian's band played, Carnie sang Be My Baby, and it looks like it was a nice time.

I watched this very interesting and moving interview with the members of REM ahead of their induction to the Songwriters' Hall of Fame. I've been a fan of theirs for years, and they're known for their integrity and for being respectful to one another and to their legacy. They broke up years ago but continue to get along. Their drummer, Bill Berry, left many years before and they carried on without him only because he was adamant that they should. Bill gets quite emotional in this interview. I also love where, when asked if they will ever reunite, they all say no, and Peter Buck says, "It wouldn't be as good."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATHHACcw3Q4

After a long absence, I wanted to check in here to see the conversation about this development. It's very sad, but we've heard only good things about the people who will be taking care of Brian's needs moving forward. I suspected something was wrong (or that Brian had gone into some kind of decline, whether mental or physical) when whoever runs his Instagram account stopped posting new photos and posted only throwbacks. That was well before Melinda died.

I do want to say that the reports use the word "dementia," not Alzheimer's. Alzheimers is a type of dementia, but not all dementia involves forgetting who you are, who your loved ones are, etc. The word only refers to cognitive decline. That in itself is difficult to contemplate, but we don't know what Brian's specific condition is. It's possible he can still go into the studio if he wants to. I only say that because, as someone whose own parent is beginning to decline a bit, it's a good idea to keep the person as active and engaged as possible. Even if that just means spending time with his kids. Speaking of whom, I believe some of his and Melinda's kids are still quite young (still need care), and I'm thinking about them as well. I only want the best for Brian and his family. I hope they're all getting some comfort through music and leaning on one another for support.

Happy birthday, Brian!

I don't come on here much anymore, but I wanted to check out what people are saying about the doc. I agree that Brian doesn't open up much, but there are still moments that for me were quite emotional to see, particularly when Brian hears some terrible news...Well, I don't want to spoil anything. He wasn't a chatterbox, but he put himself in a vulnerable position just sitting in front of the cameras like that. I found it very brave. Those who aren't familiar with his story will come away with empathy for him and (I think) an understanding of why he is the way he is, in addition to having a greater understanding of what makes his music special. Also, the filmmakers highlighted some music that a lot of the general public might not know. Special attention paid to the Holland album, for example. Jason Fine is an empathetic listener and a person who clearly puts Brian at ease (in fact, Brian says that and verbalizes how much he appreciates his friendship).

I wanted to note that I found the movie on Amazon Prime, where if you're in the U.S., you can rent it for $6.99 (or buy it for $14.99).

I could be mistaken, it's been over 5 years, but I don't think the song's inclusion on Brian's NPP album had anything to do with why it didn't qualify for an Oscar that year. It has to do with how it was placed in the film too, and in this case it's playing in a scene toward the end of the film when Brian and Melinda are driving in a car, and is also used as the second song played over the end credits. There was some other factor involved in the Oscar guidelines that I don't remember which disqualified it, but it wasn't that it appeared on the album. Corrections welcome!

You are correct, sir.

From a write-up 5 years ago:

BEST SONG FROM GOLDEN GLOBE NOMINEES NOT ON THE SHORTLIST: “One Kind of Love” from Love and Mercy
Why did this song from the Brian Wilson biopic not even make it to the shortlist? Because of an Academy rule that states that eligible songs need to be “used in the body of the motion picture or as the first music cue in the end credits.” Wilson’s “One Kind of Love” was the second song played during the credits.
http://thecomeback.com/theapparty/pop-culture/music-for-the-unhip-looking-at-oscars-best-original-song-shortlist-and-nominees.html


As to the brief use of 'One Kind of Love' in the body of the film, I'm guessing that it was deemed to not meet the Oscar requirement of  "a clearly audible, intelligible, substantive rendition."

Let's face it.  There's often some measure of arbitrariness on these things.  One of the most famous Oscar music disqualifications was on Nino Rota's legendary Godfather score, which was deemed ineligible because Rota recycled some of his own melodies from an earlier film, "Fortunella."  It was very much a gray area because the renditions, tempos and instrumentation were completely new and while the melodies were identical in some places they were different in others.

I believe this happened to Rufus Wainwright, who wrote the beautiful song "The Maker Makes" for Brokeback Mountain many years ago. It didn't quality for an Oscar nom because it played over the closing credits, IIRC. Really weird rules.

As a huge Beach Boys fan and a strong conservative centered around the importance of values, morals and ethics, I'm proud that Mike is playing the Trump sponsored concert.   For all my other musical 'heroes' that have supported the politics of hatred, divide, racism and suppression of freedoms (liberals), I'm glad that the Beach Boys band name is being represented on the right side of history.    Congrats to Mike.   Remember, the thoughts shared on these boards are not as widespread as you'd like to believe.   Americans in the vast majority of states, cities and counties elected Trump as our President because he stood for the political decisions/directions we so desired after being on the brink of a civil war with President Obama.   The seething anger of racism generated by that man's words and actions were unlike anything this country had saw, but the media and these boards rarely bothered to notice or report.  

For fucks sake, you’re completely missing the point that they’re playing a concert for a crowd during a pandemic. I don’t give a sh*t about Mike’s politics or your politics, it doesn’t change that it’s stupid and dangerous and against CDC guidelines.

EXACTLY, and as someone who DID have Covid and have had complications since, I have a major issue

I'm sorry to hear that, Billy, I hope you are on the mend.

I can only imagine it must be extra insulting as a Covid survivor and as somebody who has been dealing with complications for Mike to be breaking those rules and showing a lack of disregard, playing a show in front of a bunch of anti-masking idiots, and having people in this thread try to downplay Covid.

I personally know several friends, and friends of friends, who have actually passed away from Covid - people who were not elderly, in their 40s and early 50s. One had a pre-existing health condition, one didn't. As even Chris Christie himself has said, this disease is very random in how it manifests in people. There's lots that we don't know. In fact if there's one thing for certain that we do know, it's that we know that we don't know as much as we should know in order to make an informed decision to try to downplay it.  

So people who want to downplay Covid with their horseshit facts can seriously take a long walk off a short pier. That downplaying mindset plays directly into the same narcissistic simpleton mindset that Mike Love has, where he can only understand the world as it relates to his own personal experiences affecting his own dumbass, privileged self, as opposed to actually being an empath for once in his life.

There's a certain mindset that a section of people on this planet have: things are disregarded and are not considered a problem that they are willing to recognize/tackle/address *until it happens to them personally*, until their own life is detrimentally affected by it. Mike very much seems to fit the bill of that kind of person.

Yes, to all of this.

Let's say the situation were reversed. Let's say Brian had the BBs name license and decided to do a Biden event. (I'm not saying Brian is a Biden supporter. This is totally hypothetical.) Knowing Mike is NOT a Biden supporter, would I think it was ok for Brian to have the "Beach Boys" to do a Biden event? Mmmm...no. Honestly, I would say Brian should do it under his own name. Wouldn't you? (And while I put Trump in a totally different stratosphere than Reagan, Bush, and W, I also think Mike-as-the-BBs doing any events for them without the go-ahead from the others would be wrong. But I think the Reagan/Bush stuff WAS with the permission of the others, who even participated. And again, this is putting aside that I think Trump is not even a politician. He's a completely different thing.)

I should add here, since apparently I missed the point of the thread, I would say Brian should do it under his own name IF there wasn't a pandemic. Given the pandemic, I would be horrified if he (or anyone else) did it at all.

As a huge Beach Boys fan and a strong conservative centered around the importance of values, morals and ethics, I'm proud that Mike is playing the Trump sponsored concert.   For all my other musical 'heroes' that have supported the politics of hatred, divide, racism and suppression of freedoms (liberals), I'm glad that the Beach Boys band name is being represented on the right side of history.    Congrats to Mike.   Remember, the thoughts shared on these boards are not as widespread as you'd like to believe.   Americans in the vast majority of states, cities and counties elected Trump as our President because he stood for the political decisions/directions we so desired after being on the brink of a civil war with President Obama.   The seething anger of racism generated by that man's words and actions were unlike anything this country had saw, but the media and these boards rarely bothered to notice or report.  

For fucks sake, you’re completely missing the point that they’re playing a concert for a crowd during a pandemic. I don’t give a sh*t about Mike’s politics or your politics, it doesn’t change that it’s stupid and dangerous and against CDC guidelines.

Oh, I thought there were two issues here: The covid issue AND the political issue. I have a problem with both.

So basically what I'm reading is that the problem isn't that you don't agree with what Mike is doing... but you just don't agree with his politics.

Okie dokie, join the club. 99% of the artists I listen to would probably call me horrible things because I happen to disagree with them.

Let's say the situation were reversed. Let's say Brian had the BBs name license and decided to do a Biden event. (I'm not saying Brian is a Biden supporter. This is totally hypothetical.) Knowing Mike is NOT a Biden supporter, would I think it was ok for Brian to have the "Beach Boys" to do a Biden event? Mmmm...no. Honestly, I would say Brian should do it under his own name. Wouldn't you? (And while I put Trump in a totally different stratosphere than Reagan, Bush, and W, I also think Mike-as-the-BBs doing any events for them without the go-ahead from the others would be wrong. But I think the Reagan/Bush stuff WAS with the permission of the others, who even participated. And again, this is putting aside that I think Trump is not even a politician. He's a completely different thing.)

I think it's totally fine for artists to be involved in politics. They're citizens too. However, in no way to do I think Trump is a typical politician. And if Mike wants to do this super-spreader event, so be it, but not using the Beach Boys name. He should use his own name. Attach his own name to the Trump train, not the band's name and its legacy. There should be some kind of exception to the license agreement where political events require all board members to sign off.

Apologies if this was posted before, but I don't see it. I just found this podcast called "Rivals" about famous fights and feuds in music. Of course they have one about Brian and Mike. I hadn't had a chance to hear more than the first few minutes but wanted to post it while I'm thinking about it:

https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/how-stuff-works/rivals-2

It's from March, so scroll down a little to find it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIXs66BPooY

Probably posted before, but this track is such a beautiful nod towards Brian and the Pet Sounds album. Lovely vocals and instrumentation (notice the bass harmonica for example).

I love that song, and always thought (though this is a different topic) the album it's on, Up, is underrated.

Imagine if he was still this talkative in interviews.

David Crosby retweeted one of the articles about the performance and Brian's statement (this was Feb 4 but I don't check Twitter every day). Probably needless to say that he praised Brian for taking a stand and had some choice words for Mike.

Where are people getting all the stuff about shooting lions and elephants from?

From articles like these:
https://www.wideopenspaces.com/us-ban-elephant-hunt-imports-stirs-controversy/
http://advocacy.britannica.com/blog/advocacy/2020/01/canadian-safari-club-chapter-shuts-down-botswana-elephant-trophy-hunt-auction-following-protests/
https://www.safariclub.org/news/sci-supports-hunting-part-lion-conservation

Also, I would love to know any justification they have for playing that gig. Mike claimed some freedom of expression BS while some poor guy was being paid to delete all comments about the gig. Was it about money (of course)? Was it about ego (of course)? But for the bandmembers themselves, how do they justify this? Were they threatened to be fired if they didn’t play this gig? Do they actually think their involvement in the concert was a business transaction and not a show of support for SCI? Do they even care that the convention they played publicly asked those attending the concert (members of SCI) to “trigger”/taunt those who oppose the murder of endangered animals? Do they care that the person whose music they were playing was opposed to this concert? Do they care that Al and David were opposed to them playing this concert? Their very own idols asked them not to play and they did it anyways, does that bother them at all?

So many questions, I’m just appalled that the band went through with it. Mike has proven he’ll do just about anything for the almighty dollar, but it’s surprising the rest of the band didn’t protest this.

Oh my gosh, how can I respectfully say that you're off your freakin' rocker, man (along with a couple other of the posters).   My gosh.  A friggin' concert for fans.  I mean...put it into prospective across the 60 years of this bands history.  We've looked past the bad bad things of Dennis Wilson, Brian Wilson...geez...every band member has been associated with shady folks...played shady places in the 60's....70's....certain countries that that had horrible conditions for gays....women...people of color....   Associations with certain publications, donors....private events.... Now, they're private lives...I'm not even going to go there.   You're making this out like the worst ever and now you'll never listen to the Beach Boys.   You're anger is at a level that it feels like you'd be happy to punch Mike Love in the face right now.  All of this 'extra' stuff is not his ownership.  He just agreed to play a freakin' concert and move on.  

I could (and probably are) be totally wrong about my hunch, but you probably rarely even heard of this organization before this situation.  The hate you're showing due to your apparently endless love for these hunted animals seems overblown since I'm not sure how involved you were in fighting this organization prior to this one event.  Its like...if this petition wasn't started and caught the news media agenda, you might have not even known about it.   They were trophy hunting in the past and in the future and you'd be just talking about the upcoming beach boys box set.   So, the hypocrisy is comical.  

If Brian Wilson REALLY wants to assert his stance and attack these hunting practices in a pollical mindset to push to have it made illegal, then he should and I'll be watching.   But, then...some of the hard facts will need to be discussed.   I don't know much about this group of stupid hunters, but I hear that Africa welcomes them because of the millions in fee revenue from buying these trips, the locals get the majority of the meat from the kills to eat and the entire organization has helped on the conservation of many of these animals immensely.   That in no way justifies the action if people choose to make it illegal, but there will, of course, be impacts both positive and negative to a change.  

Man...its tough to 'type' arguments back and forth out.  So much easier to have a conversation.   Probably why I don't post much.  But, I don't want to continue to 'trigger' people.  Ha ha kidding...for goodness sake...kidding.  I'll just shut up and stop reading this topic.  

Seriously? You're really comparing the Wilsons' drug use with:
 Mike/Bruce's support of a trophy hunting organization/going against the principles they've claimed to believe in for decades/putting the BBs band name to a cause that the BB main creator doesn't believe in/ Don Jr's spokesman issuing a nasty statement about Brian? Also, there have got to be better ways to promote conservation than actually killing endangered animals. You're making no sense.