That amount would've hit him instantly, esp. considering it was injected.

I think that a dealer killing him is a bunk theory. Kurt Cobain was a millionare, he was shelling out thousands a day for a year to serve his addiction. The dealers could make more with him alive than him dead.

Unless he pissed the wrong person off.

My mother-in-law is a National Guard recruiter, my dad was in the Army and fought in Korea, my uncle was in World War II, my brother was in the Navy. Me, on the other hand, am anti-military due to my political and (more to the point)religious beliefs (not that I don't support the troops already over there, just the whole reason) so...I guess I'm different from the rest.

Ian... 

Sad to say, I know far more about depression than anyone here will ever realize. I've had some serious issues in the past that I won't go into; when I say that Brian's music saved my life, I actually mean it in the literal sense. It got me started on my own music, and that along with my wonderful wife, really is the only thing that keeps me going.

Been like this since I was a small kid, but it's gotten worse over the past 5 years. I've buried both my parents, both my daughters, been close to being homeless...and I was bad off emotionally BEFORE all this happened. I *do* have an addicitive personality, and that is what worries me. Smoking marijuana on occasion has been the only thing that kept me grounded; I've been on anti-depressents before, and they only made me worse. I have used cocaine in the past, and regretfully must admit that that was the worst thing I could've done. Not that I didn't like it; rather the fact that I liked it too much is the problem. I haven't done it in a while, but I know that I do not have the willpower to decline it if it was offered. I come from a long line of alcoholics and drug abusers. I understand why Kurt would have committed suicide if he had (which I don't think he did for the reasons I stated above, not because I don't take what he was going through seriously) and...I had tried it myself on more than one occasion when I was younger.  Thank God I have my three loves :my faith, my wife, and my music.

Let's not.

Yeah, that was me who asked that about BWPS.

Looks like the same handwriting to me, just bigger for effect.

The structure of all the letters is totally different. Different writing.

I also have always wondered what was written in the parts that are blacked out; were the black-out originally, or after the fact?

Something I've wondered about, that we will never know...

Suppose he DID commit suicide, and had a friend help him to make it look like he was murdered, so Frances (and maybe Courtney,too) could still get the insurance money (in addition to his estate)?

We will never know.

Actually, I would've loved it if he would've tried the spoken bit on CoW these days.... 

This same thing was posted when this board was on comiclist. Talk about deja vu all over again...

Curt also worked with Love (Mike, not Courtney) on Looking Back with Love.

That's what I was thinking too. Looks like 1983 or 1984. In '87, Brian was BONY.

[12 year]

Frances and Courtney, I'll be at your altar.
Please keep going Courtney, for Frances.
For her life, which will be so much happier without me.

I love you, I love you!

Notice how the above is in completely different handwriting?

Shortly after I got the idea for this topic, I heard on the news that yesterday was the 12 year anniversary of Cobain's death. 12 years...wow.

I'm the cop! Called it!!!! 

Let it also be said that if you read what I posted above, I personally think Kurt died by accidental overdose; yes, it was the shotgun blast that actually killed him, but he would've died anyway due to the heroin. So I guess you can call that "death due to gross negligence covered up by murder".

Something like that, anyway.

The problems I have with the suicide theory...and these are all *fact*, not speculation or conspiracy theories (I'm leaving those out of this for the moment)

1) Cobain's blood morphine level was over 1.5 per liter; no possible way for him to shoot himself after that. He would have been incapacitated. That level of purity for a shot of smack...no way. Considering he was, in fact, an addict...he would've metabolized the heroin quicker. That means he had to have been given quite a large dose.
2) He weighed about 110-115 pounds, making that level of morphine even more toxic.
3) There was a can of root beer present that was tested and showed to contain Valium.
4) The part I mentioned earlier about the "suicide letter" not actually being such, except at the end....and that showed an entirely different handwriting.
5) Why were there no prints on the shotgun, OR on the pen used to write the note mentioned above? No way Cobain could've smudged his own prints off.

That's just for starters.

NOW for the conjecture time...

My own personal theory is that he was shooting up with someone, and that person gave him a lethal dose of heroin, and then made it look like Kurt shot himself.  Why? Maybe the person (whomever it was) had just bought a bad batch of sh*t, panicked, then tried to cover their tracks. OR it could've been someone whom he p*ssed off. When you start dealing with actual pushers,as opposed to just some guy next door you buy a dime bag of weed from, you're playing an entirely different game.


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Let it be said,though, that I do NOT believe Tom Grant's theories about a conspiracy to kill Kurt involving Courtney Love. I'll get into those later.

D'oh!

Ignore

In case anyone is wondering, this post was supposed to be first, but I buggered up the splitting of the topic.
 Anyway,  I had just finished a book devoted to the subject, "Love and Death", written by Max Wallace and Ian Halperin, a few days ago .

I don't think it was Courtney. I personally think it was either a music industry person ( the so-called suicide note was actually a *retirement* letter, with the only parts relating to suicide coming in at the end in an entirely different handwriting) or ,more likely, a former drug contact. C.Love may have had some *knowledge* that it was going to happen, but as far as her being involved....don't think so.

Landy. As odd as it may seem, there are pictures of Landy with horribly bleached hair, looking like the guy from Def Leppard does now.

During IGA, he squatted  down and looked like he was dropping a turd.

All of them, plus Audree.

He refers to Mark Linnett as his manager?

And he didn't know that he was playing in St Louis?

Umm....

I think he's been hitting the brown acid again...

That screaming is killing my ears. No wonder Brian quit touring back then; his good ear had to be killing him...

[KNEW.]

Okay, I agree that enough time has passed. Here we go...

Landy redrafted Brian's will, right? Supposedly, he forged Brian's signature,right? Main benficiary:Landy. That by itself doesn't really mean too much...until you add in the fact that the medication Brian was on was causing seizures and blackouts. Landy *knew* the meds were taking a toll on Brian's health. Repeat:he KNEW. And *then* changes Brian's will to make himself the sole heir, completely cutting out everyone else?! Now, what does that sound like to you?