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OK let's start an "Albums Listened To Today" thread.  Either list them, or use cover art.  If you use cover art, get it from the All Music Guide (www.allmusic.com) so that the art images aren't too big.  I'll start.
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Well, 3 out of 9 ain't bad.
And this belongs in General Music.
In the what are you listening to  right now thread.

I'd say that this qualifies as a slightly different thread than "listening to right now".  I take that to mean the album or song that you're listening to when you post.  That said, however, if someone wants to move this thread to General Music, that's fine.

Smiley Smile / Wild Honey while reading a book of Zen teachings.

That sounds like a match made in heaven :)

It was perfect yeah.

Very, very perfect.

ABC music - Stereolab

Oh Mercy - Bob Dylan
Everyone is Here - Finn Bros.

The Great Rock'n'Roll Swindle - Sex Pistols
A Symphony Of Sound - Velvet Underground

Charlie Robison- Good Times
Brian Wilson
Warren Zevon- Transverse City
Hayes Carll- Little Rock

Television -- Double Exposure
Frank Black Teenager of the Year
Kanye West -- Late Registration
N.E.R.D. -- Fly or Die

The Strokes- Is This It?
Incubus- Morning View

My Ramones 3 disc compilation
My Pete Townshend Demos 5 disc compilation
and the album I bought today "Golden Hour of the Kinks".

SP, who is that hot bi**h in yor avatar????

Bruce Springsteen - Tracks
Freddy And The Four-Gone Conclusions - Wigged Out Sounds

Shania Twain...

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Alright, a True Stories fan.

a little dressie bessie....in the car.    .....believe it or not, I got so absorbed in my work today I didn't even bother to put on a cd

True Stories rules.  It's just a fun record.  I never get sick of it.

Same here.  I listen to it a lot.  Some of my favorite Talking Heads stuff is on there.

Puzzlin' Evidence is pure genius.

I listened to

Beulah, The Coast is Never Clear
Rolling Stones, Sticky Fingers
Big Star, Third/Sister Lovers
Harry Nilsson, Nilsson Sings Newman
Okkervil River, Black Sheep Boy

I really love that scene in the movie.

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Ian, she's going to be at The Troubadour Monday night. You might want to check her out if you get the chance; acoustic, countryish-rootsy style, with a beautiful voice. I saw her during the summer, I"d see her again in a heartbeat, it was a great show.

Francis Albert Sinatra and Antonion Carols Jobim
Coltrane - Ballads

I love playing music for my kids...
;-)

They Might Be Giants Lincoln
Frank Zappa Hot Rats
Wu-Tang Clan Enter the Wu-Tang
Devo Hardcore Devo Vol. 1
Beach Boys Smiley Smile

Blood On The Tracks
Summerteeth
Amnesiac
The Gay Parade
Wild Honey

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Very varied day it seems.

Excellent work today...especially on The Gay Parade. But I like all five.

20 Granite Creek by Moby Grape

Smiley Smile/Wild Honey twofer / The Beach Boys

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The Green Fields - "Melodies For Afternoon"
The Olivia Tremor Control - "Presents: Singles And Beyond"
The Reivers - "Translate Slowly"
Cornelius Bros. & Sister Rose - "Too Late To Turn Back Now: The Story Of..."
Various Artists - "Roots Of Reggae, Vol. 1: Ska"

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Charlie Robison- Step Right Up
Sara Evans- Three Chords and the Truth
Beach Boys Greatest Hits 2
Brian Wilson- Smile

DOA (Demos, Outtakes, Alternates) - The Clash

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Me too right now.  I just LOVE Visions of Johanna....

This is one funny, but angry dude! He's a new personal hero of mine.
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What happened about halfway through, son?

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Supergrass - Self Titled.

Pavement - Brighten The Corners, Wowee Zowee

BW88
Jethro Tull Benefit
Dylan Love and Theft
BBs Holland
Fab 4 White Album Disc 1

These are in the stack on the desk today to be put through media player.

If Benefit sounds good, I'll give Aqualung a shot.

Any Jethro  Tull fans out there?   I'm in a state of heightened interest in these  guys of late since I've been reading their recent bio book.

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Still Cruisin' and Uncle Meat is a scarily apt segue.

Yes we all know your opinions on R.E.M.  ;D

That's alright though.  We all like what we like.

I didn't even mention those f*ggots in my post!

How come that word isn't snuffed out?

I don't like that word.

I don't like your tie!

I listened to all of these around 2-3 AMish.. I don't know if that counts as yesterday or today.

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I listened to the first Kiss album today. Twice.

Right on. I'm listening to an awesome Kiss bootleg from Anaheim 1976.

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Day is Done- the new Brad Mehldau trio cd............Great version of "she's leaving home " and " Martha my dear"
Mothership-larry Young (organ playa from blue note )
Stepping Stones - Live Woody Shaw .the baddest of the trumpet players!!

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Cuddle Up into Sunday Morning must have been a doozie of a segue.

Hey, analogdemon
how is Domination ?..Axelrod did the arranging and producing on that one.

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What can I say? I'm on a Serge kick today.

I've always enjoyed this one.  It's orchestral, but done in a bop style.  Pretty good stuff.  This album doesn't get glowing reviews, but I think it's a pretty solid work.

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Hott.

I won that in a fake gameshow type experience.

Haven't listened to it yet.

Check it out, man. She's the Lesley Gore of now.

hell, can't get the hang of putting (http://                             ) pictures in here!

Anyway - Jenny Lewis and the Watson Twins - Rabbit Fur Coat. Great album!

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It worked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sort of bigger than i thought but it's a start!

Johnny Guitar Watson !!!!



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Crosby & Nash - 'Wind On The Water'
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Crosby & Nash - 'Whistling Down The Wire'
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Errrm .. gratuitous ego boosting self promotion ;D
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We're moving so yesterday my son and I actually had the whole day to listen to stuff while I packed boxes.  It was great!

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Just like Gold! Yeay! Another Aztec Camera fan! I also have all the postcard singles - what a great songwriter Roddy was. Is 'We Could Send Letters' the best song ever written by a 16 year old? One of my favourite songs anyway. Love the first album, and all the rest have some good stuff on - have to dig them out again! Thanks for reminding me!

That first Aztec Camera album is pure bliss from start to finish, one of the tippy-top of the eighties. I started getting into it again about a month ago. Tip of the hat for the Cocteaus, too, Nick. I suspect this will be the first and only time I ever hear anyone describe the process of moving in a postive light. ;) Best wishes to ya in the new environs!

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Good to see fans of Aztec Camera.  I only just heard "Just Like Gold" and I can't believe it's not avail anywhere else but the single.  Actually, High Land, Hard Rain was the first album I ever heard, except for a couple of weeks I thought it was Husker Du!  Reason being, it was on a label-less homemade tape that a "friend" sold me for $5 with Warehouse Songs & Stories on the other side.  The thunderstorm sound effects on Standing In The Rain led me to believe that it was the "Hard Rain" LP and not until later did I catch the chorus on the AC side and realize my mistake.  I don't think that made sense very much...

And as for moving in a positive light--if I told you that we are being forced to move by developers turning our apartment into a condo would that satisfy ya??   ;D  Still it was nice to just listen to music all day; sadly a rare occasion for me nowadays.

 

As it is my xxth (oh, alright. 47 - sob! -) birthday today I've been indulging in lots of music, as below so far , Jenny Lewis (above) again - also



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Beatles #1's
Little Deuce Coupe/All Summer Long twofer
Unsurpassed Masters Alternate Summer Days

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I don't know bout that left column, but the rest is sweetness.

The highlight of the day was Jaco Pastorius.  I just discovered that album yesterday digging through some old vinyl.  I put it on and it blew me away.  I'd argue that it's a contender for the best jazz album of the 1970s.

It's a killer, no doubt.

Arctic Monkeys. Massive buzz about them over here.. now the fastest selling album ever, I heard today. Pretty impressive - very Strokes.

I listened to the "Friends" album four times today.

You have my unending respect. Jaco Pastorius is GOD on the fretless.

And it only took 100 minutes!

No argument here.

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You breathe in, you breathe out
*repeat 62 x*

And the love that loves the love that loves to love the love that loves to love the love that loves to love

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I hope you were listening to the vinyl version of Cruising With Ruben and the Jets.

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You bet your ass.  That said however, I really don't mind the 1984 remix.  That's probably because the remix is the only version I knew until about a month ago.

Good man. Learn from him, Zappa fans. The vinyl of CWRATJ is the ONLY way to go.

The vinyl version is far more raw, however I do think that the 1984 remix does have its merits.

For those who don't know, Zappa used new musicians (uncredited) to re-record the drums and bass on Cruising with Ruben & the Jets and We're Only in It for the Money in 1984 (while getting his whole back catalog ready for release on CD for the first time) because he decided he didn't like the way the original bass and drum parts sounded.  He released the remixed versions of both albums in 1987 and took the original masters out of production.  Before his death, he relented on WOIIFTM and put the original 1968 Verve master back into production and deleted the remix.  He didn't do the same for CWRATJ however, so the only way to hear the original album is to get an original vinyl copy, or at least a vinyl copy that pre-dates 1984.

WOIIFTM only contained re-recorded bass and drums, but CWRATJ, in addition to re-recorded bass and drums, also has some vocal overdubs, some longer endings, etc.  It almost sounds like a completely different album.  I do prefer the sound quality of the remixed CWRATJ to the original.  The original vinyl mix sounds very muddy and raw.  Also, there are parts where Chad Wickerman's drums on the remix are pretty cool.  Everyone should hear both versions and decide for themselves.  I do find myself listening to the original vinyl more than the remix lately, probably because I'd never heard the vinyl up until a month ago.

No matter which version you listen to, the album is great though.  It's basically a Zappa doo-wop album.  Great stuff.

There are a lot of people who have wondered why Dweezil hasn't restored the original master himself.  I think the problem is that FZ never did any kind of remastering or anything else with the original CWRATJ and instead only worked with the remix.  So that would mean that Dweezil would have to do a remaster and build the album from the original multi-track masters, which would lead to endless arguments about how FZ would have done it had he lived, and quite frankly, I don't think anyone wants to go there.  There will never be another FZ, so we need to just take the music he gave us and run with it.

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Hahaha, that's brilliant, Ian! As for me, 4x this (seriously!):
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Just bought the vinyl!

SWEET!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How do you like "Boots", you Nancy monster-fan, you?

One of the few covers that outrun an already-classic original.

Powerful words, man. I can feel the earth shaking.

I've been listening a lot to their Satisfaction version lately. Utterly righteous. Easily trumps the original, too, but of course it wouldn't have been as powerful without the original permanently residing in the collective psyche. I love Beyond the Valley of A Day in the Life too. I'm on a total Rez kick.

Rez manage to send-up and subvert their influences while still remaining respectful and loving, in a bizarre way. Which i was wish was as true of Zappa.

Too true. I've wanted to like Zappa for a long time, but I think I'll have to give up. I do like "Who Are The Brain Police" and "It can't Happen Here" a lot though. He's channelling some - for me at least - very true and honest angst. Not really subversive, though, just good. Rez are something else entirely, much more honest. You're never in any doubt that the Meet The Rez cover is more homage than parody - at least I'm not.

Sunflower album

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Ahhh, dead on.  GREAT discussion guys.  The Rez worship(ped) the Beatles and for a while considered calling themselves the New Beatles.  I think it's gone now, but for a while their website used images of the Beatles for the four Residents -- John, Paul, George, and Reingold.

What do you two think of the Residents' cover of Zappa's "King Kong"?  I like that one.  Guess it's mostly a Snakefinger showcase, though.


Their version of "Satisfaction" is fucking religious.  It makes any cover of any other song sounds like poodles.

I also got my girlfriend hooked on The Commercial Album.

Hopefully their next album, River of Crime, is good.  Looks cool.

Just saw the video for Gingerbread Man. Made Eraserhead look like Degrassi.

 :D

Their videos are fucking psychotic.  We could do a whole thread on Vileness Fats.  Did you see on their website they put up the whole script?

I hadn't seen that, but thanks man, I am going to check that out tonight!

The Misfits --
Power pop gemz

Is it on the Icky Flix dvd? I've thought about getting that for a long time. Maybe I'll finally go ahead with it.

Get Icky Flix.  It has Gingerbread Man and a new Vileness Fats edit, plus many other great videos.  You need it at least for "Third Reich 'n' Roll."

If you don't have Kettle of Fish you should look into that too.  The video stuff is pretty cool, especially the easter eggs of their first live appearances.

Cool. Will do. I've never ordered anything from EuroRalph before, but it seems okay. My local shop didn't have it.

Overtime- Dave Holland Big Band
Dance with death- Andrew Hill
Lighthouse 68-the jazz crusaders

I think I actually got my box from Euroralph.  For some reason none of the track indexing matches the songs.

Prairie Wind.  :)

You like that too?

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Yes, muchly. Only got in a couple of weeks ago. Wish I'd read Zelilgirl's old thread on it.

She did a thread? I don't think she likes it either.
In my Top 3 worst Neil albums, but a lot of people like it!

OK. I thought she did a tribute thread on the last version of this board? No? Perhaps it wasn't so much a tribute then.

To Neil?
Me and Halleluwah did that.

Nah, to the album.     DOn't hate me.

 ;D

*please buy On The Bach and Tonight's The Night*

Actually could do with some good album recommendations, having recently discovered a 'legal' (cough, cough) download site.

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Now play Deuce Coupe.

haha I'll get to it :P

Definitely better than that Foo.

Oh come on man, In Your Honor is awesome.  Especially the acoustic disc.

Awesome......... for me to poop on.
Beckner, help me out.
Grohl is a grunge Petty, in a bad way.

Frank Black -- Show Me Your Tears

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Today I decided to put the rock and roll away.  Sometimes a jazz filled day is good for you.

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They Might Be Giants -- Flood
Misfits -- Static Age
Afghan Whigs -- Gentlemen

Cat Power - The Greatest.    Wow.    :)

I know. Great, eh???

Yeah !! Have you checked your PMs?

Just did. I shall check that out forthwith!

The 'Clap Your Hands Say Yeah' debut. It's got that Talking Heads/ Arcade Fire thing going on. Interesting.

Mr. Bungle first album

this is not Jimmy Scott on the cover .....record company decided to put a woman on the cover ( i do like the cover ) but this confused some listeners , due to the fact Jiimmy sings in a very effeminate voice.
has a KILLA version of "on Broadway" and "unchained melody".......i play this in studio for clients and it stops them in their tracks.

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Change Jimmy to Jill and it could be Jill Scott!

does look like Jill a little...BUt this album was released in 1969. ....killer stuff .....i have never played an album where clients stop and start writing the title down as this one.(as if they could find it ??? (i think it's available only as a japanese import)

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"Hot Fuss" is pretty good. AMEN to the Zappa!!!!

N.E.R.D. -- "In Search Of..."

Whip it out, Maybelline.

Today, like every day for the past week or so, I listened to Richard Hell's "Blank Generation" on the bathroom stereo while I took a shower. I really gravitate toward the songs that aren't "hits" -- "Down at the Rock 'n' Roll Club" is an awesome song to listen to while you're getting ready to go out, and I love the plan, the melody for which reminds me vaguely of "Ain't It Fun" by Rocket From the Tombs, for some reason.

Anyway, that's been the only album I've had time to listen to today as my day's deep, dark sucking has pre-empted my listening to anything else. This has -- no sh*t -- been one of the very worst days of my life.

(Anybody know any painless suicide methods? Black capsule? Anyone?)

First -- I love the avatar.

Two -- I always loved "The Plan" and "Down at the Rock and Roll Club."  "New Pleasure," too.  Shame he and Verlaine couldn't combine, as good as both of their exclusive output is.

Third -- What's wrong, man?

Yeah, we might have to derail this thread......what's wrong BD?

Nirvana - Bleach

Brian Wilson Presents SMiLE

Sondre Lerche - Two Way Monologue

Pavement - Brighten The Corners

Sorry -- don't derail (you guys are nice, and my pathetic plea for help is beneath us all): It's just ... *sigh* ... family stuff. I come from an especially volatile clan, and a planned reunion lasted all of two screaming minutes. Just ... awful. Plus there were girlfriend issues, which have, seemingly -- thankfully -- been resolved. So at least I can point to something good coming of my day. It's like you can take what life gives you and be sh*tty about it, or you can try to appreciate the little things that make it worthwhile and try to transmit that positively to the people you care about. I'm trying more often to opt for the latter. Life's too short.

Anyway, yeah -- glad you like the avatar, Chris. ASM #33 is sort of a talisman for me, has been since I was a wee tween. (Although the final page of #32 might be my favorite in all of comics ... best, most HEARTBREAKING cliffhanger I've ever read.) I've been reading a lot more comics lately. It's something quiet to do when the rest of the house (read: the girl) is sleeeping. I'm pretty nocturnal.

But Richard Hell: We need to start a thread about this guy. He totally hits me where Verlaine leaves me cold. There's just something more visceral about him, whereas Verlaine's lyrics -- brilliant as they are -- project a distance because they're couched in those heavy metaphors. Hell is more street, more gut-level impact. You get the feeling he's much more lived than Verlaine, authentic. And Bob Quine's playing perfectly reflects that atmosphere. He's clean like Verlaine but there's a chaos element reminiscient of Richard Lloyd; it's like he's the perfect summation of the guitar tensions in Television but better than either guitar player in that band (although I still tend to favor Lloyd, if only for sentimental reasons), plus he's just one guy. (Not to overlook Ivan Julian, but Quine really makes the Voidoids' sound for me ... )

Please forgive my earlier whining. I'm such a fucking baby sometimes.

Everybody needs a way to release their thoughts. That sort of stuff will keep you from sleep otherwise.

I'm sorry to hear that, man. Tomorrow is another day.

Nothing wrong with you whining, you're just venting frustrations.

I hope things look up Andy.  Family stuff sucks the most.  Sometimes you just have to keep the focus on yourself to move on.

Great thoughts on Richard Hell.  I like Verlaine more because I think he's a better artist, but I can understand why Hell touches you more.  Hell is more about shoving an emotion in your face, while I think Verlaine is more interest in abstract experiences.  Not necessarily detached, but less concrete.  "Little Johnny Jewel" and "Blank Generation" kind of sum up each one's personality.

I think I'm also moving away from traditional views of "detachment" and realizing that what we call detachment is another approach to emotion, not necessarily the avoidance of it.

For me, some emotional Verlaine work:

"The Dream's Dream"
"What I Heard"
"Last Night" (a HUGE emotional moment from him)
"Scientist Writes a Letter"
"Guiding Light"
"Carried Away"

Could go on.  While Verlaine obviously cares about lyrics, I think he expresses a lot just through the music -- like McCartney or Brian, but if they were really into abstract poetry.  He may not seem to confront you with something like Hell, but I think musically he does if you look at the music as a version of the lyrics, which it always is.

Sketches of Spizain

I love all of the Verlaine tunes you name (except "Scientist Writes a Letter," which I haven't heard). Verlaine is very -- yeah -- ABSTRACT, while Hell is more direct and confrontational. I can appreciate abstraction, but I think I just tend to favor the gut approach; sometimes it's harder to plug into Verlaine because I can't check my brain at the door when I drop the needle. (Not that I do that with Hell, but ... ) Verlaine's lyrics have a wonderful way of creeping up on you. It took me a long while before I think I really UNDERSTOOD what a song like "See No Evil" is about, but "Love Comes In Spurts" grabbed me by the crotch. It's too bad Hell and Verlaine couldn't have kept it together; they had an incredible synergy. You can mix up "Marquee Moon" and "Blank Generation" and it almost works as a whole. [Shatner voice] "Flip sides ... of ... the SAME COIN ... the ... PLAYER ... on the OTHER SIDE ... "

Hahaha, great post!

I think the part with Hell's interview in England's Dreaming is pretty sad.  You ever read that?

White Stripes -- Get Behind Me Satan.  The Nurse is rocking my world.  So is My Doorbell.

Don't we all just wish that Meg White would rock our world?

Yes, Jason.  Every day of my life.

No -- that's one rock book I've always meant to and wanted to read that I still haven't. What's sad about it?

Speaking of sad, ever read Hell's thoughts on the death of Johnny Thunders ... ?

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JOHNNY THUNDERS AND THE ENDLESS PARTY

           Johnny's party is over. Thinking about him this morning (May 9) in New York. It's another drizzly colorless day as it was for his funeral last week.

           I hope when I die people don't go soft about me. It's stupid. Apart from his family and four or five lifelong friends, probably the people who'll miss Johnny most are those he exploited. The ones who were made to feel important because he spent time with them in order to get them to do things for him. Of course, he never even really had to try to get this kind of treatment: people fell over themselves to get next to him. They liked to be near him just to look at him, as you would a jungle carnivore. And a girl could not be wrong to have him at her side. That's how he made his living, like a lot of rock and roll performers. I don't think Johnny would want people to go soft about him.

           Then again, he lit into journalists a lot for not treating him with enough respect. He even wrote a song ("I Tell The Truth Even When I'm Lying") replying to what he considered their unfair and insulting treatment of him. It included this "open letter to the music press: I revoke your poetic license, you probably got on 42nd Street, the same place you got your lover, the same place your mother got your father..." When he told me how much he liked Japan, it was mostly because the people are "real polite and kind. I tell you I did 40 or 50 interviews and not one person asked me about drugs." That's what he attacked them for, asking him about drugs. While of course he himself exploited heroin's significance in the maintenance of his bad boy image. He included conspicuous syringes in publicity photos, and frequently mimed jamming needles into his forearm during his stage act.

           I've found my try at writing this -- including viewing videos of recent Thunders shows, reading old interviews, listening to tapes and records, talking to some of his closest old and new friends, and, especially, recalling in detail a lot of time I spent with Johnny myself -- spooky and scary as well as sad (where's the good part?). Mainly because I find myself identifying with him, so that it becomes almost as if something I say about him I'm saying about myself. And that to feel something or evoke a feeling about him is to feel the same thing about myself. (Of course, that's what stars are good for.)

           But the main qualities, the virtues, that set Johnny apart were that he didn't give a f*** and he dressed great.

           Johnny, of course, was the rock and roll Dean Martin of heroin, at least in his last decade. I've known him since 1974, which I think was the last year before he had a real narcotics habit. I admired the Dolls; they inspired me. They were the first pure rock and roll group. "Pure" in that they knew and operated on the assumption that rock and roll is at least 50% (maybe 100%, maybe 200%) attitude. They were the first group that regarded themselves as stars rather than thinking of themselves as musicians, or writers, or vocalists. The Dolls were for New York groups sort of what the Sex Pistols were for British groups. They excited everybody by being flawless: in it for fun, never pretentious or pretending to be anything they weren't; they were ballsy, noisy, tough, funny, sharp, young, and real. Stupid and ill. They mocked the media, threw up on grownups, and kidded with the kids in a language of drugs and sex.

           And I don't think there's really much an argument to be made against the observation that Johnny peaked with the Dolls, when he was 20-21. Even his most recent sets undeniably picked up whenever he played a Dolls tune. (He didn't do many of them, but you'd hear a "Lonely Planet Boy" or "Personality Crisis.") The next 17-18 years were just spent getting to know him a little better.

           There was something perfect about Johnny. Though because he was a legendary archetype, you tended to think of him as predictable, as a type. You tended to condescend to him because you thought you had him nailed (and otherwise he might be a threat). But he always surprised me when I talked to him. The surprising thing was how smart he was. He was smart in the same way he dressed so perfectly. Smart the same way Elvis Presley was. You couldn't top him and he didn't delude himself.

           (I remember the revelation it was to me when I realized I'd rather be smart in the way Elvis Presley was than in the way, say, Ludwig Wittgenstein was. The thing was, you could imagine you could be smart like Wittgenstein by just thinking hard enough, but Elvis just had it. It was almost spiritual. A kind of grace. A kind of innate ruling of the world. That's what you wanted and Johnny had it. And he knew it -- to him, the highest compliment was to be "as good as Frank Sinatra and Elvis.")

           He was perfect because he made no apologies. He was just graceful. He instinctively knew how to make do with what he had. (Though he made a lot of bad records.)

           Rock and roll, of course, is about not growing up and settling down, defying those who have, and living for sex and other types of fun. That's who Johnny was. The New York version.

           Johnny made his choice, or lived out his destiny, and he had a right to it. He always went to drugs to be able to face the day, and he always went to his guitar to be himself. (Though he spent most of his time watching tv.) There's no judging to be done. It's like Marlene Deitrich in Touch of Evil when she sums up Quinlan with, "He was a man..." I've got to admit it annoys me too to see cynical, exploitive, self-centered, death-drive get glamorized. I hated the Chet Baker documentary for that reason and Chet and Johnny have a lot in common. They were both junkies who always put themselves first and treated their talent as just another little windfall they could squeeze for all the narcotics and fancy clothes they might be able to drain from it. (Johnny: "I would never become righteous. Everybody's entitled to do what they want if they don't hurt me." It took Johnny to say "me.")

           Johnny though was the kind of person you always forgave. He did everything with such impenetrable confidence, everything about him was so up-front, with his soulful murmer in your ear making you feel like a human insider, you could only say "Well, that's J.T...." and write it off. (His most frequent companion of the last year telling me with real fondness how he'd always bring her something -- some knick-knack from his bedroom wrapped in a scarf -- before he asked to borrow money.)

           It was impossible to insult him to his face; he could hold his own with anyone. You wouldn't want to anyway; he was so sweet and soft-spoken (still conveying that you'd better not touch his hair).

           One of the most widely felt reactions to Johnny's death has got to be that the conclusion has been foregone for so long now that there isn't any drama left. In other words, we've considered him dead since 1980. That's a nasty thing to say, and, even though I myself must admit it occured to me, it isn't really true or fair. In fact, one of Johnny's distinctions was that he was always worth seeing. (For all the above reasons: he had that kernel of talent, he didn't give a f***, and he dressed great.)

***

           [April 29] Johnny's funeral today. At the cemetary, as words are spoken over the coffin, and flowers dropped on it, out in the dreary day, finally tapping into the sadness. Like the sadness is a dimension that is always there but we have developed over the years such a way of avoiding. Sort of like the way in his last concerts, in the light, he looked scary, like an accusation or a reminder you'd rather not get.

[1991]

Boxer, I appreciate you posting this. I'm an old New York Dolls fan, never saw this before. Thanks...

Great article.  That was a really well-done piece.  I never saw it before.  Great description of Thunders' gifts, though.


Jon Savage visits Hell in New York for an intereview, and talks about how bitter Hell is over the Sex Pistols achieving what Hell wanted to...kind of implying Television.  If Verlaine hadn't held out for a record deal and Hell stayed, Television would be the Sex Pistols in a lot of ways.

Read the book.

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Great article.  That was a really well-done piece.  I never saw it before.  Great description of Thunders' gifts, though.

Read the book.

Hell is one of the few (maybe the only?) rock muscians known to me who might be a better writer than he is a musician. Glad you and the sheriff dug the Thunders piece (I, too, am a big Dolls fan). Check out Hell's Web site; it's full of good stuff. There a piece about his dad that's just incredible.

I gladly would read the Savage book -- if I could find it! (Yeah, yeah: eBay ... )

Friends & 20/20- re-realizing 20/20 is a fantastic album even if it is hodge-podge.

Completely fantastic.

Out of the afternoon.....Roy Haynes Quartet with Roland Kirk

Today I cleaned house before work. I listened to some crappy local indie band's CD, with one track being enough for me to deduce they're no different from any/everybody else doing that kind of music (read: equally unimaginative). Also played Love's first album (awesome!) and parts of Van Duren's "Idiot Optimism," parts of which are good (the rest: not so much). Honestly, I was much too interested in reclaiming my surroundings from the complete entropy that had descended within the last couple of weeks. Usually, Chilton solo stuff gets me motivated for housecleaning, but I've been really burned out lately. (Go figure.) Richard Hell got some shower play again, but I think I'm gonna have to find a new album for that.

(NOBODY CARES.)

I found this news story about the Gorillaz on yourtube yesterday.  They talked about how 50 Cent said Demon Days shouldn't get nominated for any awards at some ceremony because the group wasn't "real."  Funny -- I know the album just appeared on my shelf.  Anyway, "unimaginative" is what I thought.  50 Cent's music, that is.  I hear you on local music though.  There is one really cool guy in my area, but that's it.

Music is like any other of the arts or, for that matter, most things reflective of humankind insofar as the majority of it is terrible.

The liberals in Congres will say that Automan wasn't real but I saw Desi Arnaz Jr. talking to him once.

Richard Hawley - Cole's Corner. Kind of lovely.

I'm Wide Awake, it's Morning by Bright Eyes.  :)

Anyone else love this album?

Liege And Lief - Fairport Convention (inspired by the TV series on the Beeb about British folk)
Swagger - Blue Aeroplanes (inspired by the great reviews the reissue has got and remembering I used to like it a lot - not played it in years.

Boards of Cananda - Campfire Headphase.   ;D ;D ;D

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They Might Be Giants -- The Spine.

This was gold.  One of the best from this year.  I only got to listen once, but it had some great melodies, funny lyrics, and even this song ("Spines," I think) which sounded like classical hip-hop (and I don't mean it was just hip-hop beats under classical music).  There was also a great early Elvis Costello imitation that reminded me a lot of Frank Black.  Now I finally hear their influence on him, especially certain FB songs like "Tossed."  I don't dislike Frank or TMBG like you Ian, but now I at least see more similarities, so I kind of "get" it.

But this album rules.

APHEX TWIN! DUDE! That's fucking genius music! Boo-yah skeedaddy!

Friends

All day long!

Some of the Foo Fighters first album, today.

Only "Exhausted," "Alone + Easy Target" and "Good Grief" on loop. Perfect tunes that Grohl will never top.

Shame we didn't hear some of these filtered through the big "N" and with additions from that skinny, blonde guy.

Once, a friend said to me that he thought Nirvana sucked.  To that, I replied "Apparently one guy in the band figured that out."

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I think Dave has some talent with songwriting. Though, I maintain that Kurt Cobain was a real talent where as I view Dave as only average in the songs department. Kurt's songs were aural paintings.

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I heard the Mojo glued-to-the-magazine '15 track tribute' to The Modern Genius of Ray Davies. Is this title a free-association on the "Genius of Ray Charles"? Call it whatever you like, this is the rare Mojo tribute giveaway that warrants more than one and a half listens and a couple of tracks saved to hard drive.

Why do I like this besides it being relistenable and excellent? It could be that the Kinks have been so less relentlessly covered and generally, generically ripped than the likes of Beatles, Stones, Who that possibilities to be explored and styles of exploring them remain novel to my largely jaded ears. It's almost certainly because Davies is so eminently coverable, and so often a bit underachieving in band interpretations of his (easy to play) material, demo-like on many recordings that didn't quite knock a composition out of the park or were really meant for a different sort of singer and or band to interpret in the first place.

That's the pleasing shock here: how rock solid a songwriter the guy is consistently. Much 'pleasant but semi-negligible' Kink oeuvre is easily rehabilitated as anthemic standards

And the programming choices are very smart. Pretenders and Stop your Sobbing would be a natural, but it's withheld. Possible copyright clearance issues notwithstanding, that's a wise choice because the performance is too pretty (as well as too familiar) for the unified feel here, which is of Davies and Kinks as bluesy, punkish busking rock and rollers and  rawly soulful balladeers with a tendency towards raga rock psychedelia. The Carnaby Street angle  and the foppery is downplayed, and the predominant tone is set by Mudhoney doing  Who'll be the Next in Line? 

Other best tracks include Mark Lanegan's take on  Nothin' in the World can Stop Me Worryin About My Girl as a Delta Blues, Steve Wynn's  This Strange Effect, a tune I always half-loved as one with potential to be so much more via a slightly lame merseybeat cover by some other sixties guy: never even knew Davies was the composer. This is the so much more with a Davies sneer set over a Neil and Crazy Horse-like backing, Fountains of Wayne doing Better Things (doesn't top the Kinks, though a nice, straightforward homage, but it reminded me what a good late song this is, and how close to early favorite tune Something Better Beginning), Blue Aeroplanes doing Big Sky, Red Kross doing Fancy, etc.

Good compilation!

I'd almost be inclined to agree, if not for the tunes I mentioned above, which are very much exceptions when compared with Grohl's usual writing.  I'll venture out and say that the verses for "Exhausted" and "Alone & Easy Target" are every bit as melodically challenging as a "typical" Cobain work -- the elongated melody-style, featuring musically-stimulating accidentals (or depending on how one views it, key signature-changes) and great a rule-pissed chord-progression.   I will not, however, defend his lyrics or originality when compared directly to Kurt Cobain. 

Today I listened to some schmaltz Jackie Mason comedy needle drop given to me by some putz. Oy Gevalt!

today ...Sly Stone 2 cd anthology disc 2 .contains all of Riot (except 1 song) in much IMPROVED sound!!!

"Crazy Horse" by Crazy Horse and "Last Time Around" by Buffalo Springfield

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Incredible.

DUDE! I heard that album just the other day! It's a piece of fuckin' ART!

I shoulda known you'be hip to it.

I don't get all hyped by a lot of new music either, but SHE Wants Revenge (f***!) blew me away there. Have you heard their EPs from this album?

SHE Wants Revenge. Haven't heard the EPs, but I am sure am gonna grab em now.

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Hmmmm, Soul 69.
Is that when you smear grits and chicken grease on each other and......never mind. (still skirting)

I thought I told you never to mention that dream.

The "These Things" single has some extra tracks that are pretty cool.

 ;D

Got through CD 1 tonight - very excellent. Madonna's wedding is a hoot.



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This album, by this quirky little band...
don't know if anyone's heard of them?

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Yeah, I'd heard the single off that 'She Wants Revenge' album ("Tear You Apart", good video, too) and really liked it...glad to hear the album got the Ian-Wagner stamp-of-approval. I'll have to check it out.

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Wonderful stuff, jda!


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Listened to:

Miles Davis, Miles in the Sky
Dylan, BIABH and Hwy 61 Rev.
Some trash by a Canadian named Luke Doucet or some such thing. Overproduced, breathy vocals, annoying guitar solos, pretentious...like a fucking mirror. I don't need that.

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How is that album, Maybelline?

Some good collaborations.

Still working on the Band's "Musical History". I played all five CD's yesterday, but it's way too much music to take in properly in that big a gulp, so I'm taking smaller bites. Since I'm off work for a while, I should have plenty of time to absorb it all over the next several days.

Another helping of ...



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It's like a soundtrack to some movie that was never made.

Where am I?  Who's that guy? 

Rediscovering Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour of Bewilderbeast. What an amazing songwriter... Once Around the Block is superb  :) :)

Do you like Elliott Smith?

Yeah I've got a CD of his somewhere. Can't remember which one, I'll go and check.. I got into it after watching Good Will Hunting. You like BDB?

It's Either/Or.

My favorite.
For me BDB is a bit of a weak imitation of Elliott.
But I'll check him out again.

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Right on Bugul, right on.

What think you of Bjork Ian? I think you mentioned once that you went to see her in concert?

Lovesexy and Chet baker ....right on !!

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I didn't know you liked Frank Black, man.  Awesome.

Yea, he's one of my favorite artists.  Have you heard the new song off the follow-up to 'Honeycomb'?

Nope.  Actually, the only records of his I'm still missing are the two you listed and Honeycomb.  But I am looking forward to Fastman Raiderman (if I got that right).  Isn't it a double album now?  I'll probably wait for the real record to come out before hearing anything, to be surprised.

Yep, it's supposed to be a double album.  I'm counting the days.

If you're interested in hearing the new song, it's at the end of the Frank Black podcast on www.frankblack.net.  It also includes a KICKASS version of "Gouge Away" (performed by Frank and the Catholics).

Awesome, thanks.  Frankblack.net is great for news.

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When the morning comes, it doesn't seem to say an awful lot to me...

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Disc 3 of the columbia Duke Ellington essential collection 1927-1962

Secret Chiefs 3 -- Book of Horizons

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I did a lot of dishes listening to these two today ...

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Exactly.

Elvis - Girls! Girls! Girls! sessions.

I know "De Capo" isn't conventionally as "great" as "Forever Changes" or whatever, but it's my favorite Love album. Most people diss "Revelations" as being too tedious -- which it is at times -- but there are some parts of it that are just incredible. There's a solo -- alto sax? -- where the band locks into a hard vamp behind it, and it rocks as hard as anything on "Fun House," which it sounds like a direct antecedent to. Of course, the first half of the album is utterly unassailable and is maybe the best thing Love ever did. (The version I was listening to is the mono/stero reissue, which is fodaing essential. I'll listen to both versions back-to-back sometimes, like today ... )

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When I was 7, my folks picked up one of those bootleg "hits" collections called 24 Happening Hits. It was one LP, which meant you got edited versions of songs, and the tracks were obviously transferred from 45's.
A lot of greats ther, Western Union, Little Girl by the Syndicate Of Sound, Turn Down Day by the Cyrkle etc.
But the one that slayed me then was My Little Red Book by Love. Just loved the sound and attitude.
Shortly afterward, I inherited a parents' friend's 60's 45 collection and in there was the Alone Again Or/A House Is Not A Motel 45. I loved it, particularly Motel.

Bout 3 years later, my folks and I started frequening thrift stores and I started grabbing whatever LP's looked cool. At a used book/comic store in Burbank, out of a small stack of LP's, I found a copy of Da Capo.
When I got home, I put it on, expecting something cool, but not mindblowing.
The sound of Stephanie Knows Who exploded my brain.

The Franklin Mint plans to authorize a figure crafted of fine pewter to commemorate this landmark moment as part of their forthcoming "Great Moments in Ian" series.

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I just heard Love at TGIFridays.  Heh heh.  >obscure60s<

Well, it ain't like it used to be.

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This rather lovely album:


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Yep.  And I liked your story.  I was going to start a separate thread until I saw you did a recent post on Love. 

Yep, Ian. Great story. I came to Love through the Move's cover of "Stephanie" on the 'Something Else' live EP, but I didn't get 'Da Capo' 'til after 'Forever Changes', so it was all a bit confusing...then to find the Byrds-Stones of the first album.

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Yeah...I've been up more than 24 hrs. straight again.

So it's All The Best Music Ever Released day, Jda?

jdavolt,
       When the music's over, turn out the lights...

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Wild Honey and Some Girls - Stones.

Hehe...actually, I've been trying to go through my whole collection chronologically (roughly), starting in '62. I've been stuck in '67 for a while now, though, thus the albums in yesterday's post...wrapping '67 up today with:
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Don't forget Wild Honey and Who Sell Out.

And Smiley Smile.

And Surrealistic Pillow and 13th Floor Elevators and Satanic Majesties.

The Piper at the Gates of Dawn.

Axis: Bold As Love and Forever Changes.

HEADQUARTERS!

Pisces Aquarius.

I Never Loved a Man the Way that I Loved You

All last week, except the Monkees and the Elevators and the Airplane...don't have those albums yet.

I did borrow the Monkees boxed set from my brother tho, so I'm starting to delve into them. Got the Bee Gees box, too.

Edit: or the Aretha.

Herb Alpert's Ninth, Days Of Future Passed, and a real obscurity - Perrey-Kingsley's Kaleidoscopic Vibrations: Spotlight on the Moog.

Gilberto Gil, The Early Years, a compilation of 22 tracks by this Brazilian national treasure recorded between 1968 and 1976,  the majority from the very earliest years and the first couple albums as he navigated from Bossa Nova into Tropicalia of which he was a cofounder with -among others- Caetano Veloso, Gail Costa and young pup mascot-clowns Os Mutantes.

There's nary a bad track here; at the least-inspiring, it's still super-smooth pop of the Sergio Mendes variety. At its best, revelatory in any number of ways: the easy mastery of traditional forms and his supremacy over nearly all his rivals in this arena; the rock and soul and psychedelia: just as facile being these things, but what's really inspiring is that he's no mere bandwagon jumper and expert mimic, but a real artist integrating  what he digs into what he must do, a charismatic musical spokesman for a generation akin to the Beatles he loves and emulates; and a Tropicalista mutater of the international influences he's absorbing, and in tune with the comrades in arms he's playing with, and as such fascinating for fans of Mutantes: much overlap here with those more straightforwardly rock and roll folks: the George Martinesque arrangements, the daft, surreal, sunny protest lyrics, not to mention Gil's greatest contribution to pure Rock and Roll: Bat Macumba, played great by the Mutants, equally great here in a raga rock arrangement.

The best track is so for partly extra-musical reasons: samba Aquele Abraco (That Hug), recorded live as Gil announced his goodbye to his public heading into political exile in the UK for the next several years. The crowd-singer feedback loop is amazing as they hug one another in a really passionate tearstained performance. Interesting too is exile-recording Can't Find My Way Home, a Blind Faith-Winwood cover that rivals the original (and points out what Gilberto and Stevie share vocally), but trumps it in terms of poignance and soul invested in the lyric. 

Phil Spector - Back to Mono box set

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 :angry  :drumroll  :drunks  :beer  :smokin  :hat

That kind of music.

I've been listening quite a bit to Fotheringay's only album a lot since I got last week.  Some of Sandy Denny's most haunting work ever, and I'm a big fan of hers.  I think this album more than holds its own against her Fairport Convention work; I can't for the life of me see why it's so often relegated to mere footnote status.

"Aura" by Miles Davis, with music by danish composer/trumpeter Palle Mikkelborg. IMO one of Miles' most ambient-sounding albums, a little like Eno's ambient music, but I think also inspired by french composer Messiaen. I didn't really like this album at first, but have recently started listening to it some more.

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