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For some reason, I just keep clicking on that damned thing. No more.

I pledge, here and now, to never give him another count towards his 100,000 views goal.

Who will join me?




This also functions as a support group.

I'm with you. I had enough of that stuff weeks ago.

It's like joining AA...

I want to be your brother in Rocklessness.


I am, however curious about many things, like, how can someone live on a lifetime's supply of Wheaties alone? Where else can I hope to find answers but in that accursed thread?

I will try to be strong.

I appreciate the support group element already. Thank you.

Hey, maybe we should hire Rocky and Stan to keep us safe from Rocky's thread!!!

Is that a clown over there???

You and Andrew posted you were done with the thread then came back stronger than ever. Just sayin .....

......................

The thread has been exasperated by a reputation of insults. It's fine to have your say, I fully support that. But the comments have only amplipied  the quid pro  quo deluge.

Welcome, one and all.

A few seconds back, I felt compelled to click on his thread. I didn't.

Thank you for allowing me to share.


P.S. John, the trick is to give your saliva enough time to break down the Wheaties into a liquefied form.

I'm a sucker for tabloid fodder so I will have to decline.

Gotta go......I think I just saw Elvis walk by. :lol

As has been noted, it's like rubbernecking a car crash. It's why we need this support group.

I miss when I was the only Rocky on the forum.  :'(

But didn't he say he'd go away when he reaches 100000? Shouldn't we get him there then hold him to it?
And, if you read this Adamghost, Rocky's first response to the Yeats was clear he thought you wrote it, so hopefully that makes sense of my response. He then edited his, as he's wont to do.

You will always be the only real Rocky.

I'm in...which means I'm out.  It ain't that difficult to stay out.  It' isn't magic.  Nothing's gonna suddenly make it worth my while to ever waste another second in there.

His posts to reads ratio is actually very low...compared to the other BIGGIES

It seems that every time I look, the most recent post on Rocky's thread is from Rocky himself...

why do people on message boards feel the need to proclaim they are not going to do something? just don't do it. you're an adult.

For the same reason you felt like posting this, I guess.

that doesn't make sense. anyway it's a lame look to scream from the mountain tops that you are not going to read a thread anymore. just stop doing it. the people getting all riled up over rocky's posts look like bigger losers imo. stop engaging. stop posting. done.

I don't feel like you're doing much supporting in this support group.

We need a 12-step program...

Maybe we'll get 100,000 views of this thread by Saturday, and then we can sell 'em to Rocky to add to his 100,000 and, well, then, erm…

I guess the purpose of a message board is to communicate and I guess some people want to communicate about not looking/having difficulties not looking at the Rocky thread. Like you wanted to communicate your thoughts about them communicating it. It's only pointless to the degree that some communication has no practical purpose beyond fulfilling human social instincts.

What's even going on in there, I'm too scared to look. /s

Could we not have a daily summary thread? Give one person the responsibility to report here to us?

*snort*

Eh, I could care less what the dude thinks.  I was amused he thought I couldn't write.

Actually do think at this point we're dealing with some form of mental illness. So maybe it's not so cool to keep piling on.  Though like Carol Kaye he keeps begging for it.  I do like the fact that fewer and fewer people are responding to him, and the underlying insanity is becoming more and more obvious.

Great idea.  Emily?  ;)

Might be mental illness. I'm inclined to think (due to the detailed financial stuff in the post addressed to Stan) that he's the dupe in some weird head game Stephen's playing against his bros.

I think you're possibly right about that, but what a stupid/deranged messenger to choose.  Seems pretty self-sabotaging.  I have to admit I haven't bothered to read much of what he's written lately.  It's too much step-into-my-madhouse to try to follow it all. 

It's gotten bizarre, creepy and seems somewhat serious.
... thinking about it, it may be both. He may be having a mental health crisis and be a dupe. It's quite possible all that projection really is projection and he's very lonely and rather desperate. I hope Stephen Love or his sister or someone will support him if he really needs it. I feel quite bad now.

It's really getting weird in that thread. It's started to become a day in the life of somebody who's having a bizarre public breakdown and decent into madness. He's even turned on Brian and started bad mouthing him.

What if Rocky comes over into this thread? Double the drama?

Can't stop him I guess.  I agree, I'm starting to feel a bit sorry for the man, even as I think he is revealing himself to be a pretty big sh*t at the same time.  But yeah, I would guess even in his delusional state, the reception he got relative to what he expected - starry-eyed peons hanging on his every word - had to have been a pretty brutal shock to what probably was a pretty cushioned ego.

Here in Los Angeles, in dingy little apartments all over the San Fernando Valley (where I dwell), there are literally thousands of lonely people slowly aging into solitary oblivion because they hitched their life wagon to the idea that they were, or were associated with, someone important.

Funnily enough, I never read a single page of it until 2 days ago when a friend mentioned it to me. I checked out the first three pages and the last few. A little too crazy for me. Not going back.

I wondered whether this might be associated:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23555.0.html

Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well.

Signed on...

Wise observations, Adam, and my thoughts exactly.

I tend to think Rocky lives, thinks and breathes as per the following prophesy:

I'm just a gigolo and everywhere I go
People know the part, I'm playin'
Paid for every dance, sellin' each romance
Ooh, what they're sayin'

There will come a day, and youth will pass away
What'll they say about me?
When the end comes I know they'll say just a gigolo
And life goes on without me

Pamplin only played four years of college football. His NFL & CFL careers consisted of being cut in pre-season.

Then there has to be some other explanation… has to be…

The guy's an idiot ?

I dunno...I would imagine it wouldn't take too many blows to the head to do some damage long term.  Plus living in the Beach Boys world would make anybody nuts.

Was your dingy apartment bldg. built before 1966?

If so I might have lived there. basking by the pool in the warm California sunshine.  8)

His 'voice' is back to 'normal'. Maybe he was just on a bender.

Regarding the football connection--and obviously this is speculation--but it's very safe to say that he could have had the kinds of brain damage associated with football. Consider:

• junior high and high school football, presumably at a relatively high level (in that he earned college scholarships)
• probably at least five years of college, with two different D1 schools (Oregon and Hawaii) and the assumed one year sitting out as a transfer--during which he'd practice
• professional training camps at both the NFL and CFL levels

Obviously people can have long pro careers in addition to this and come out fine ... but other people happen to be seriously harmed without even finishing a high school career. If you figure 10+ years of medium to high-level football, brain damage associated with football is entirely realistic.

It's true. When John Manning posted that in the sandbox, Rocky didn't even cross my mind because I was thinking about my friend's kid who started playing in middle school this year. They really get knocked about. Though schools like his (in which there isn't a serious scholarship-level focus on football) are beginning to change the rules a bit to reduce head injury.
 
Rocky's level of not-thinking-well combined with his emotional reactivity doesn't seem entirely natural to me. It could just be the result of living a strange life (as adamghost said a "cushioned ego,") but in retrospect Rocky's behavior is so peculiar it's hard to think it's just who he is, isn't it? I had been thinking of perhaps years of steroids. What does that do to someone after they've stopped taking them? Permanent effects? Or are the effects only there while you're on them?

I really don't think explaining Rocky's behaviour requires him to be mentally ill or brain damaged. He reads to me, frankly, like half the men in my family -- arrogant, illiterate, the epitome of toxic masculinity, and at that enviable level of intelligence where you're not bright enough to realise you're not bright. Couple that with a few minor brushes with stardom and good looks as a youth, and I think that pretty much covers everything that needs explaining about him. Testosterone and cluelessness can be a powerful combination.
Sadly, there are a *LOT* of "Rockys" in the world. It's just that most of them have no interest in the Beach Boys, and the few who do would tend to get banned from a board like this almost immediately, so he seems odd in this context...

You know....theorizing about the Beach Boys music is one thing, but this increasing trend here by people who don't know the people they are theorizing about is really killing this board. Seriously, are so many of you that board with your personal lives that you feel the need to get to the bottom of a strangers behavior. That topic about a BS book that will NEVER EVER be printed and distributed, should not have been permitted to go on for 80 pages. And now people are going to agonize over whether or not they should feel sorry for the guy. His issues don't matter, what he is spewing is not factual, and if some of you can't see that, or didn't see that weeks ago then you should stay away from anyone that talks to you about swamp land. Good god head injuries from football...really?

This nonsense has gotten increasingly worse concerning Mike as well. So many of you wringing their hands over what Mike is bothered by and what he really means by a comment or two to an inane journalist. Mike is a founding member of the greatest vocal band ever. He has a chip on his shoulder, legitimate or not, and can't get over the fact that his band mates messed up with drugs. He will keep singing Beach Boys material until he dies. No need to fret anymore. OK?

And yes,, I should just check out of here for a while or ignore the threads but they keep clogging up the board and it only seems to be getting worse. Ever wonder why Stephen Desper does not delve into this trash? or why Ray Lawler seems to have vanished? I have a pretty good guess.

Or as we sometimes say, the man's just a complete arse.

I think the thread is in fact melting down at this very moment.

What's THIS?  :o   A test.  I ain't goin' to look.  8)   Probably going to have to swear off of this thread too.  ;)   I don't care about the man...or his little booklet.  He's just too low.  Too sub-zero.  He has NO heart...nor soul.  >:D

paul j is onto something.....

Rocky theorizing is new(ish) but, in looking at old threads, it looks like people have been theorizing about Beach Boys' and Beach Boys' ancillaries' behavior since the board began.

rocky is a bb ? ::)

The last few days have been so bizarre and ranty I thought something more was going on. Who knows? I hope not.

  ???

either andrew is right the dude made an ass of himself. you guys got too far in yer scrutinizing. jeez

Personally, I try to refrain (not always successfully) from projecting my own interpretations of Beach Boys' behaviour; I've only ever met one of them, briefly, and then only in his celebrity persona, dealing with fans.  Far as I'm concerned what they do in their private lives might be entirely different to what we see in public and on stage. I still hope that Mike, Brian, Al, Bruce, Dave, Ricky and Blondie get together weekends to share a beer and laugh their asses off at what we get up to on this board.  I doubt it but I'm still an optimist, despite 40 years of livin' and lovin' this band.

Rocky's a different kettle of fish entirely. 'Course he's not a BB; don't think anyone's saying he is though! He's a psychologist's dream (or nightmare), laying it down bold as brass. He shields nothing about himself; he either wants to be disliked, or wants us to think he wants to be disliked. And as has been mentioned before, he doesn't seem to give a flying toss either way. That's not to say he should be a target for cruel, groundless jibes, but so far I don't think I've seen a groundless jibe.

Further, this is an online message board, a forum for discussion about topics about which people share a common interest.  Far as I know, beyond a few rules to ensure legality, decency, and prevent trolling, there's no list of subjects which are out of bounds. Maybe there should be but that's for another (new) thread… So it's to be expected that a variety of topics will be up for discussion, and the nature of a discussion means some folk will have differing views, will project and theorise here and there. Some people in Tonbridge Wells might get upset, but all's fair in Love and war – everyone can state their take and stake their claim and argue their side.

Ramble ramble…
Now, back to the Rocky thread – anyone have an update?

Here's a summary:

DRUGS!!..... :tiptoe :happydance :king :drunks  .....mi...key... :'( ;D :-[ 80,000000 views.....!!!!! ::) :woot :ninja :spin  pUnCH  :o :) 8)

Then some weird Q'ran quote.

I wonder if Rocky is also an obsessive emoji/emoticon user when he texts. I can't help but admit his emoticon overuse is rather hilarious - I don't take him as seriously as many others here.

Paul J B, I have to say, "this increasing trend here by people who don't know the people they are theorizing about" isn't killing this board, it is this board, more or less. There are exceptions and always have been (whether newer ones like Lawlor or older ones like Boyd, et al), but for the most part, none of us know these people. And the board--and its predecessors--have always been mostly people going on and on about people they don't know and situations about which they can speculate or study ... but don't know.

So yes, Rocky is clearly (as correctly Andrew says) an arse. And earlier, a complete idiot. Those things are obviously true. Unless he's a fabulous troll clowning everyone, that's obvious. But if someone wants to debate whether it's from football injuries, from drug use, or whatever, well, who cares? I personally would't want to get too specific about it because I don't care why he's an idiot. He's just an idiot. Conversely, if someone wants to bring up football-related brain damage, I don't have a problem personally bringing up general information about that subject (while making a point not to say it's directly relevant here). Really, what's the difference? It's a message board, not a scholarly journal. There's room for a lot here, whether more rigorous review of specific claims or in-passing, off-hand comments.

Doesn't matter. Certainly nothing new, and not what's killing the board.

It's impossible to take him seriously. I am, however, glad to not know him in real life.

Dunning-Kruger effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
Andrews Doe and Hickey have mentioned this.

I truly question how seriously Rocky takes himself in his posts. I think when he puts the members of this board down, he's largely just goofing on people in a way that an incredibly ridiculous combative standup comedian goofs on people. A bit like Andrew Dice Clay meets Biff Tannen meets Wally George. Or something like that.

Meanwhile the majority of recent posts in that thread now seem to be from Rocky... He's talking to himself...

This so reminds me about a guy and a boat, the boat is the Titanic, it's going to sink with lady named Rose.  Here's the point, she get's old, real old looking like some of these posts are getting.

Not questioning AGD, but you pretty much confirmed it was Pamplin and not a troll. Can we ask how you found out or even from whom?

Andrew Dice Clay, now that's a name I haven't heard in a while. He actually managed to sell out MSG believe it or not. Twice!

Now he's speaking in a strange, Bob Dylan lyric code.

I live in a house.  I hope desperately to avoid the dingy apartment building fate myself.  You'll notice I don't take my own brushes with fame particularly seriously.  In the end, all we are is dust in the wind, dude.

I think you bring up some good points.  Let me challenge them, though, a little bit.

First of all, let's say there's a total jerk that walks into your workplace and shocks everyone by their behavior.  Does everyone get together after work to discuss their shared experience with this person?  You bet.  Nothing unhealthy about it.  It's key to understand that (a) you're talking about a group of people that roughly speaking hang out in the same place and (b) someone bursts in on that environment acting totally crazy.  There's nothing unhealthy about this kind of reaction.  It's very key to who we are as humans.

Second, I disagree Rocky's thread is killing the board.  I think it saved the board.  It's easy to forget that Rocky came along at the same time that the Board nearly collapsed and a lot of people (including me) were about to leave because the environment and internecine squabbling were so toxic.  Along comes Rocky and everyone kind of came together in a great WTF?  And a lot of the board squabbles went by the wayside.  Yup, went on way too long, but who cares?  Having a thread that goes on and on isn't exactly bad for the health of a message board.

Third, you talk about "so many of you" bashing on Mike as if the two things are inextricably linked.  AGD defends Mike Love regularly.  I have mixed feelings about Mike Love but I got very drunk on a bottle of his champagne once and he's treated a few of my friends well recently so I'm mellow on the Mike Love topic.  And I could go on with more examples.  It seems like you're trying to link two separate things as being symptoms of the same people harping on the same issue, but really, Mike-bashing and Rocky-bashing are two entirely different phenomena involving different subsets of people motivated by different things.

Fourth, your guess about why certain people are leaving the board may or may not be right.  I do know for a fact that a few Beach Boys semi-insiders who do not usually post here have been following the Rocky thread and their reaction is incredulity and amusement.  It was relayed to me that it got a great deal of (mirthful) discussion at a gathering of same last night.  So don't make assumptions that folks don't have a sense of humor about it.  Maybe some people do see stuff like this and stay away; but others stay away because, y'know, they can't be seen posting on a message board because they have business relationships in the Beach Boys world that are jeopardized in so doing.  But they enjoy lurking.

Anyways, what I get out of it is that you didn't like the thread and some other threads on here.  I think that's perfectly valid and I for one hear you.  Trying to extend your own personal feeling about it to being those of everyone else -- might be reaching a bit.  Again, maybe so, maybe not.  But you're not into it, that's cool, and I hear you.

I guess I incline to the feeling that it's interesting for some of us to talk about with each other, and Rocky more or less demands the attention, so why the heck not.  If it's not fun for others - well - there's lots of threads on here I don't look at because I am not interested.  I don't feel like they have to go away on the basis that I'm not into them.

I'm too stupid to go find what he said ,  can you summarize?



 was it that we should all start posting screencaps of ourselves not reading him?

timestamped photos . Verification signs.

Never mind that… what about your avatar?????

I need to know more. Phenomenal.

I googled "guy with his head inside of a fishbowl" .It was the first one that came up.

So...shouldn't THIS thread now be moved to the sandbox?  As little as Rocklette has to do with the Beach Boys...except for beating them up...this thread has even less to do with the group...except for the potential ignoring of a guy who had little to do with the Beach Boys...except for beating them up... ... ...

If ya know what I mean... :hat

Yeah, I have to agree that's fair.  Though I think it would be good to leave it here for a few days longer because - I think everyone is basically on the same page that the Rocky thread has kind of run its course and should be denied oxygen.  This thread is providing a little continuum for some of us to interact without keeping that thread alive in so doing.  It's like our halfway house if you like.  :)

But I think you're right and that hopefully in a week or so, it won't need to be here.

That makes sense.  Still adhering to my pledge.  As I did most of the time anyway.  I don't need to be annoyed by bottom shelf, stupid stuff on a daily basis...at least not here.  There's enough of 'THAT" in the real, ongoing, face-to-face existence that is life.  :smokin

Since this is sort of a meta-post about an annoying thread on the board...

Does anyone else think it would be a good idea to have a general "Mike Love Interviews" thread on the board? The reason I mention this is because every week or two there's another link posted, to another near-identical Mike interview, and every time we get the same huge argument about whether some phrase in the interview means Mike is bashing Brian, or rewriting history, or whatever.
I think rather than have loads of threads on the same subject, it might be useful to have one ongoing Mike interview discussion thread, to which new interview links could be posted (perhaps also with quotes of anything actually new in them) and have all the arguments there too. Thoughts?

I think it ought to be moved to " honored guest", if it is Rocky, as he is an eyewitness involved with the group. As should Debbie have a thread, and Loren should have (not equating these people). Their statements can stand for themselves.

We could have a contest to NAME the THREAD Andrew.  Something on-the-mark-applicable...and entertaining.  eg.?  The Eternal Dumper...or...Mr. Endless Witless....or any number of fitting Subject titles.
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I disagree Cam.  This guy ain't honorable and as such should be disqualified from being placed/dumped in that special section.  If *I* was a REAL Honoured Guest...I'd be pissed to be lumped in with that good-for-nothing low life.  On the bright side...this one time only Love thread would cut YOUR workload measurably.  Imagine the extra time made available so that you could further enjoy life. ;)

Interesting.  I wasn't being equated to Daro and Rocky, yet I was - since my posts should go into some distant section I'm guessing no one reads?  I can’t help but consider this a personal attack, given the context of this thread.   My goodness Cam, you always seem to be construing comments as personal attacks, yet this wasn't?

There's a reason many, many people (including me) turned down the "Honored Guest" status.  We wanted to communicate freely here without some odd "superior status" to others.  I understand why others accepted it, since they were offering professional comments.  Some of us simply want to offer eye-witness accounts of various events that many "experts" here have studied for years from various articles and books. Whatever we add, we are the "color commentators."  Some like it.  Some hate it.  It seems like it ought to be part of the conversation to me.  I mean, we were there.

I didn't read that as Cam saying all your posts should go there, but that there should be a thread for people to ask you specific questions there, like there are threads for most of the posters with "honored guest" status. I don't think anyone would want you to stop posting in the threads you're already posting in.

Hi Debbie, I don't think it's been asked yet so I'll ask.  :).

Did you meet Rocky back when he was working with Brian?  He asked on the other thread if you were the Debbie who went to Hawaii with them.  Would that be you?

Thanks.

I agree that we need a place to put Rocky, but its definitely not with the "honored guests"...

That's the way I read it as well.

Can we create a "Dishonourable Employees" section ?

Ah, it looks like I need to go look on that thread and reply then.  I guess those of you who haven't taken the "pledge" can see it, if I do.  I'm not much into these pledges, but I looked here out of curiosity.

Exactly.  I only mention (not equate) the others because they and you are the only guests I can think of who fit the bill that haven't been given a thread of their own yet.  If you don't wish it that is fine, at least it was offered. The board does have a history of treating guest badly, so I can't blame anyone for passing on it.

You would still be free to post however and whereever you wish just as the other honored guests do I assume.

I agree I can't get around the word "pledge".  But it has kept me from going back to Rocky's thread nonetheless, so whatever works.

I just went and briefly checked out the thread to see what the hell everyone is talking about but am still utterly outta the loop.

Well, that's cool Yonder, what do you want to talk about?   :)

At last----a place to discuss and comment on Rocky's thread without disrupting the flow of its discourse. :hat

You bring up some good points too. I'll counter challenge your third a little more. We now have another thread at the top here started by Rab (yes, the Rab that left for good last year) tied directly to the Rocky thread causing more angst about Mike. See, it ALWAYS comes full circle. I get your live and let live stance but I maintain this stuff is killing the board. We had 4 threads hovering around the top of this page last week mostly bitching about Mike. The occasional gripe is to be expected, its the utterly insane speculation and hand wringing that goes on for pages and pages by the same people that ruin this place.

Here is a challenge to anyone. If there are people here that know things and have connections (agree there are).... Someone call Marilyn and simply ask her if she was watching Star Wars back in the 70's with Brian and Rocky, and if Brian became depressed and went home to write Love and Mercy. Pretty simple I would think. If the answer is YES, then we can skip the salt when reading the next 80 pages and three threads. If the answer is NO then a lot of people here might calm down.

Don't mean to sound sarcastic to you Adam. Your response was fair. I also liked Andrew H suggesting to put all Mike interviews in one thread.

Anyone who wants to avoid any particular thread is free to do so.  If you choose to go to the "Rocky" thread, be sure to get your immunizations first...

Now Rocky's being escorted to the rest of the board.

Emily - you have strayed...

I have a world-champion lack of willpower.

No, no offense taken.  But why in the world would anyone who knows her call Marilyn and ask her about Rocky Pamplin to satisfy a bunch of people on a message board?   I mean, this is just a ding-dang message board.  I do know some of the people in this world, and they don't live their lives catering to the desires of curious fans.  They, y'know, live lives, most of them as far away from that kind of thing as possible.  I mean, perhaps you were just kidding, so if so, never mind.  But if you were serious, that's kind of a silly position to take.  Why in the world would Marilyn or anyone else want to answer that kind of question and for what reason?  In the realm of the real world, Rocky Pamplin and the Smiley Smile Message Board are just not that important.  This is just a way for people with a certain set of interests to kill time and chat with others with similar interests.  For the principals involved, it's their lives, their actual lives are more complicated and personal to them than just being characters for our amusement, and they are very clear on the difference, and so should anybody be that knows them personally.  If those folks want to answer that question for some reason, great.  But to initiate that conversation?  Why?  We don't have any pressing right to know.

And as I said, I ain't bitchin' about Mike, I'm not seeing it much except with the usual diehards.  I don't think that's where this thread is at.  You might want to direct that complaint elsewhere.

Again, not in any way meaning offense to you.  Right back atcha on that.

*snort*

T'would appear that be so as his name just appeared hovering o'er the Stephen Love thread...

Is there any anti-virus software that we can install to keep Rocky from coming over to this thread???

Adamghost. Yes, a ding dang message board indeed. But I was serious about Marilyn. Brian himself has done a q&a here. Instead of pages and pages of looney speculation and insults why not cut to the chase. The idea that Brian wrote L&M after walking out of Star Wars is preposterous. Could it be true? I guess so but is it? IMO no way in hell and back again. Does it matter? In the grand scheme of things no, in the context of this board yes. Someone please prove me wrong. It may be ding dang but there are a lot of people that seem to come here in an attempt to write history. I'd like it if His/Her-STORY was accurate and truthful.

Because it is an invasive question the answer to which we have no compelling reason to know.  I know I wouldn't pose it.  I can't imagine why anyone else would.

I'm shocked I even have to explain this.  Why would Marilyn want to talk about Rocky Pamplin - even in the abstract - just so you could know something about a thread on a message board?  How is that useful or relevant to her current life?

If for some reason it becomes relevant, I'm sure she or any other similar person will make it known.  It's not like these threads aren't being monitored.  Let these people live their own lives and make their own decisions about what they do and don't want to talk about.

Well put Adam.  A couple of weeks ago I was prodded to ask Marilyn a rather trivial question related to something on this board.  Although she was polite in answering, I could tell that the telephone time would have been better spent asking her about her grandchildren, or filling her in on my son's upcoming college plans.

Lee

WOWZERS. You know you're almost next of kin when you can call direct and all she really wants to hear about is someone named after her ex

Sorry to drag a couple of Rocky's posts over here but I don't want to add to his 'book' thread, or start another. He is accusing one poster of being a moron and another of being a drunk. Nice, coming from a thug and adulterer, amongst other things.

What does this guy have to write to get a ban, even for a week? He claims he wrote a book....so what? It's been dissected and a lot of it is bs and the author himself has admitted to 'artistic licence' on being picked up on detail and dates.  He has been given the freedom to publish a chapter over several weeks, that was appreciated by some. He is now resorted to quoting himself with the only goal being to reach some mythical 100k views, abusing those who ask reasonable questions and offering nothing about this so called 'book' such as even a release date.

I appreciate a bit of fun and games here like most, but this poster needs to be cut down a peg IMO. Agreeing to not visit a page is one thing but the guy has been given more than enough rope for something stronger.


Mods...apologies if this goes against the board rules. Your call fine, however I feel the need for some open reasoning here.

Rocky brings out the masochist in us all...

Hideous, but we can't look away...

Pretty Funky, you're asking everything that has been going through my mind for weeks now. To my reading, Rocky's been arrogant, insulting, taunting, cruel, provocative… all kinds of things. He's used language that I'd expect others might have been sin-binned or even kicked into touch for.

I can't speak for the mods but I've come round to the thinking that the mods have done the right thing in letting him carry on. He's revealing an insight - not the clearest or most lucid admittedly - into an important part of BBs history - or at least he might if he ever manages to string sentences together clearly. For this to be being played out here is, well, interesting to say the least.

I'm one of those who's of the opinion, however, that he's thoroughly unpleasant, goading, rude, not that bright and likely being used by Stephen Love as his voice piece, though why here, why now, why anywhere at all is beyond me completely. I wish dearly that what's being talked about in that thread had come out in another way, from another person but I guess that would never have happened.

The thread and the reaction to many here to it reminds me of the Phil Cohen thread several years ago, when Phil stubbornly refused to believe the Smile box would ever see the light of day, and he got piled upon.

Phil struck me as a highly intelligent, very knowledgeable guy who just got stuck in a groove and stood his ground for a long time before being overwhelmed. Rocky and "his" thread seem to be to be quite different creatures entirely.

Debbie's posts over there seemed to be bringing out a better side of his personality, which is a wonderful thing; she has my admiration; though his insane answering of his own posts with emoticons continues.

To return to the moderation, in my opinion it's been a very fine line to be treading. Some of what Rocky's said has been very regrettable, some of it might have landed him or others in court if only he'd said it more lucidly. Some things that others, including myself, have said might also be deemed regrettable but frankly (and I might regret saying this!) it's been like flies drawn to dog… well, y'know.

I guess it'll play out as it plays out.

I just wanted to add that I have been thoroughly blown away by every post Debbie has ever made on this board.  What an impressive presence.

Yes...Debbie is an asset here and over there.  And yes John...I too was a fly.  [and dumbbell couldn't swat me with a snow shovel]

I hear ya PF.  He's rubbed me entirely the wrong way since WELL before page 1 of that manure heap they call a thread. 

Reading Rocky's posts, I can't help but feel a twinge of familiarity. Like I heard this schtick before.

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"WHAT I'D LIKE TO HAVE RIGHT NOW IS FOR ALL YOU FAT, OUT OF SHAPE SMILEY SMILE SWEATHOGS TO KEEP THE NOISE DOWN AND GET A LESSON IN BEACH BOYS HISTORY FROM A REAL MAN."


Oh yeah. Now I get it.

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Except for a very few very thoughtful and considered individuals, like adamghost, Rocky seems to have drawn out the worst in all of us, most definitely including me.
There must be a word or term for that sort of catalyst.

I now firmly take the pledge. I'm done with the whole gross demoralizing thing and I'm sorry for getting involved in the first place.

 ;D

I keep thinking of Rocky in terms of professional wrestlers, like he's Ric Flair or something… I'd be surprised if the guy didn't watch wrestling on the regular. If you think of his insults like that, it really just becomes something to chuckle at and not get all upset about.

The idea behind asking Marilyn about Star Wars was to illustrate the absurdity of these Rocky threads.....I'm not sure why that was not clear. This is a public forum, and people make crazy accusations and outlandish claims about people in the Beach Boys world here all of the time. People in the Beach Boys world also come here when it suits their needs. I don't see how you would be stunned that I pointed out a simple way, that would likely have hilarious results, of dealing with the latest, and perhaps worst inane gossip fest to hit this place in a long time.

So to be clear...I don't want to know what Marilyn cares about yesterday, today or tomorrow. It would however, be sweet if some of the people that seem to have, lets say, obsessions with clowns, or people that are obsessed with those people that are obsessed with clowns, would be proven to be the clowns themselves.

I have to admit you've lost me.  I'm pretty much stuck on why anybody who knows Marilyn would feel it appropriate to bother her with something so pointless brought on by somebody I very much doubt she wants to talk about.  The whole abstract of the reason for it, or that it might cut to the chase about something that in the real world just is not very important, doesn't make much difference to me.  I guess I don't have much more to add; I don't get it.  Maybe somebody else does and that's cool.

The Rockster's ludicrous claim is refuted by the very first line of the song:

"I was sitting in a crummy movie..."

The original Star Wars was, and remains, anything but crummy. I'd imagine that Brian's child-like wonder at, oh, pretty much everything woudl have been engaged from the opening seconds. Thus, didn't happen.  ;D

Don't forget, though - Brian liked Norbit...

Ah...

I suppose it's a matter of personal opinion because I re-watched the original Star Wars the other day with the family and I think we were all bored by it. I've watched the movie three times now and have never been bowled over by it. But I understand that many people love it.

I'll give the fans credit for their dedication.  I don't think there's any movie franchise I'm as passionate about as SW fans. 

I tried watching some of the original three a while back, and it's just not my cup of tea.

I guess I'm more of a music geek.....which is why I'm on here. 

And I use the word "geek" lovingly, not as a disparaging remark. 

There might be an 'of the times' component. As a little kid who saw it in the theater, I was blown away, and swept away. The combination of mythology (rather than machismo) and action thriller was great and pretty fresh. It's pretty common now.

That's a possibility.  But I'm 35, and most of my friends of the same age, or slightly younger, are big Star Wars fans. 

This is so off-topic; but no argument on that - obviously a lot of people of all different ages love it. I just think the 'bored' reaction might have to do with what I said above. My daughter's a little ho hum about Star Wars; when it came out some people weren't into it; some people liked it but not obsessively; but not many people were straight-up bored.

'Star Wars'  Rocky yes?  Rocky NO!!!  :p

When the movie FIRST CAME OUT...there had really NEVER been anything quite like it.  It may be 'old hat' now but back then?

W O W!!! :o

I think we need to get our "views" up!  Some publisher may start showing interest in a book by the "Angry 13" if we get a lot of WOO HOO views!  So, everyone needs to start doing "reads" as often as possible!!!

 :-D :lol

Yeah, lots of people love it, but I suppose there's no accounting for taste.  Star Wars is sh*t.  I liked the toys when I was a kid though.

I owe it to myself to pledge to no longer read either Rocky's thread or that "Let's Go Away For A While" thread.

I hadn't been back to that thread for awhile - yikes!  I don't dare comment beyond that.

Next, I think that someone's gonna claim that Rocky's backing vocals are ever-so-slightly audible in "Let's Put Our Hearts Together"  :lol

It's a bent synth note.

Apropos of nothing, I wish this thread was called "The Bullwinkle Thread." 

It's just funny to me.  And pledge seems a bit coercive.  I think the thread itself is kind of useful and totally random and meandering, which I also tend to enjoy.

I also think that, since we are all "on our honor" to keep the pledge, that we should self-report on our success (or failure) to abstain...

Hi, my name is MTaber, I am a Rock-a-holic, and I have not viewed Rocky's thread in 3 days...

I accidentally clicked on the thread a few days ago when I was actually trying to click on this thread.

I hastily exited before reading anything.

I think I'm okay.

I actually haven't been since this thread has been started.  I'm also a Pisces and I like yoga, hiking, and soul music.

I have been on the Steve Love thread though.  I was amused to see someone say "Rocky and his haters were equally to blame" (when was the last time a bunch of people that were supposedly disrupting a thread actually exiled themselves for the greater good?  Just sayin') for the devolution of certain threads and then Rocky went on a posting rampage after that.

It seems we've lost sister Emily.

I went in to get a quote then went into the other thread I pledged not to go in and posted the quote. That's 23 hail marys for me.
I'm a Capricorn and I love tomatoes and black capped chickadees.

Be careful, guys, we may need to take a pledge to not read THIS thread...  :hat

also, who is Mystery Poster Oswald Thatendswald? One account, two names, two entirely different gigs. Qui est-ce?

And coincidentally, not only did I listen to "Song for A Future Generation" tonight, but posted it on my Facebook page as well.

No, no, Don, that would be AWESOME!  "The Pledge To Not Read The Pledge To Not Read Rocky's Thread Thread."  We can completely go Dada.  I'm for it!

"The pledge to not view, read, or post in any threads whatsoever" would be a nice, quiet little thread...

Haven't been in that other mess in about 2 1/2 to 3 weeks.  Not since a number of days before this here 'doohicuss' got started.  I could only take that other crap in doses.  And even then...not so much.  Meanwhile I really think this one is ready for the sandbox now.

It has nothing to do with the BBs.  In keeping 'book'-boy's nonsense here in General Discussion the mods must be TELLING US that 'they' believe 'who's his arse'  was a Beach Boy.   ;) :p :lol
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Time to hide his poop-fest in the sandbox too.  What are we ... CNN ... where it's ONLY about the ratings and piss on real NEWS?

But who would read it ?

We need Mtaber to bring back his fanzine and have it be about not reading Rocky's thread!

Every page would be blank, aside from a few emoticons...

Friends
Of
Rocky
Pamplin
Linked
And
Yammering

FORPLAY!!!

I freely adminive been lured back to read Rockster's thread tho' I'm no rising so far as to actually post.

It's like one of those buttons that says "do not push!"

I was so excited to see this thread and Rocky's thread starting to fade off the board and then bam!  Rocky's back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPw-3e_pzqU

Rocky resembles herpes.

THAT was a TERRIBLE thing to say.  Wow!!!  I might have to alert the 'authorities'.  Let's clear the record here...Herpes resemble Rocklette.

I shall take the pledge. The man's as close to an idiot as makes no difference.

Looks like the thread's been locked, hopefully the key is thrown away for good.


Poor Rocky, so close, yet so far, to that elusive 100,000.

This begs the question, has Rocky been banned?

You gotta be jivin' me!

Locked before it it 100K??

How are we SS message board members now supposed to spend our mornings, afternoons, and evenings??

Arguing of course!

Word on the Steve Love thread is Rocky quoted a PM on a post, and may have run afoul of the mods.

That would be because he broke the rules? How dare the mods be so impertinent as to actually do their job !  ;D

As long as all of those who broke Rule 2 on the Rocky and Steve threads are subject to the same moderation, then so be it.

This will definitely make it easier to not read Rocky's thread...

Good news.  Only about 2051 posts too late.  I hope it stays locked.  It needs some crematin'.  Any volunteers?   >:D  Oh!!!  Thank you.  ;)