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Title: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: retrokid67 on February 06, 2014, 01:21:54 AM
Today marks 16 years of Carl's passing  :'(.  how about sharing some memories of him  :)


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: bluesno1fann on February 06, 2014, 01:25:07 AM
R.I.P.
I think he died around 8 months before I was born. Very sad.

I'm starting to get into his music, mainly through the brilliant Surf's Up album.
Would anyone reccomend his solo albums or not?


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Lowbacca on February 06, 2014, 01:38:38 AM
R.I.P., Carl.. (but I'm sure you do). Regarding the BBs - thanks for your voice, stability and herculean efforts.



Would anyone reccomend his solo albums or not?
Generally, I wouldn't. But to a fellow BBs fan(atic) and someone interested in Carl's career - yes, you should give 'em a listen. There's still a couple of neat tracks to be found. Plus, it won't take up too much of your time.. :)


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Nicko1234 on February 06, 2014, 02:25:29 AM
Mike posted this nice message on his Facebook page:

'No one did it better than Carl! Whether singing or playing lead guitar, my Cuz was the best. Sadly for all of us, he left us on this day in 1998, but I have to tell you, he's with us every time we step on stage. His standard of musical perfection forever influences us to do the very best we can every night...a Carl Wilson legacy! When we perform God Only Knows...sometimes it feels, as he never really left us. His was a perfect voice for a perfect song. The Beach Boys would have never reached the heights we have without you…Carl. Carl, I Love you forever...ML'


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: phirnis on February 06, 2014, 02:50:24 AM
R.I.P.
I think he died around 8 months before I was born. Very sad.

I'm starting to get into his music, mainly through the brilliant Surf's Up album.
Would anyone reccomend his solo albums or not?

Apparently, Bruce is a big fan of his 80s solo records. Personally I think his stuff on L.A. Light and BB85 was MUCH better. That said, I recommend Like a Brother if you can get past its dated overall sound/production. Not a classic by any means but it does have its moments.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Micha on February 06, 2014, 06:08:09 AM
German teletext claims in their "deceased this date" section that Carl sang "most of their hits", but at least the two tracks they give as an example really have Carl leads: GOK and GV.

And I didn't know that Falco ("Rock me Amadeus") and Carl died the exact same day.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: smile-holland on February 06, 2014, 12:14:13 PM
German teletext claims in their "deceased this date" section that Carl sang "most of their hits", but at least the two tracks they give as an example really have Carl leads: GOK and GV.

And I didn't know that Falco ("Rock me Amadeus") and Carl died the exact same day.

I did know that. But I forgot that it was today.

Mixed feelings... This very day my wife and I are celebrating our copper wedding anniversary. Enjoying a few days off, and while driving to our romantic little getaway for the next couple of days, listening to the radio, someone starts a topic on Falco's passing 16 years ago... and that's when I hit me that it was also the date of Carl's passing today.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Steve Latshaw on February 06, 2014, 12:33:50 PM
I have very vivid memories of one very special encounter with Carl, thanks to Brian Berry of Indianapolis.  In the fall of 1983 we went to see the Beach Boys in Evansville, IN., as the guests of Brian.  Brian had been a friend of Carl's for many years.

Part of that evening was a two hour coffee and dessert thing in a semi private dining area with Carl Wilson and Gina Martin, his fiance.  It was me, my wife at the time, Brian Berry and his wife and a local DJ.  We sat there with Carl and Gina and talked about everything under the sun... I talked with Gina about how much I loved her Dad (Dean) and we all had a good laugh about the Matt Helm movies he made.  We also talked about Dean's new music video, directed by Ricci Martin, which was getting played on MTV. 

Carl was gracious and fun... treating all of us like best friends.  We talked about deep catalog Beach Boys songs we'd like to see added to the playlist.  This Whole World was first on everyone's list.  Carl seems surprised that we even knew the song.  His eyes lit up and he said, "Yeah... that's a great one... I'd love to do that." 

The biggest kick was seeing the other Beach Boys.  All of them wondered just who in the hell was at Carl's table.   This was Carl's sense of fun.  He warned us... he said, this is going to drive the guys crazy.  One by one, they're going to stick their heads in here and stare, wondering who you folks are.  They won't be able to stand it and eventually, they'll all come over to say hi, just to find out what's going on.  And sure enough, one at a time, throughout the evening, they all walked over to say hi and get introduced to everyone.  Bruce was first, naturally, being the politician,  then Al, who was very friendly.

Mike was last of all.  He didn't stop, at first, just snuck his head in the room, scoping us out, then slowly made his way over to say hello.  He made a joke, as I recall, then slipped out the back door of the room.  The best part was that Carl got such a kick out of doing it.  He made us feel like we were in on the joke, all conspiring, all trying to keep a straight face.
 
In fact, he made us all feel like his friends, which was exactly how he treated us.  As friends.  I will never forget that night, now over 30 years ago.

 



Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: bgas on February 06, 2014, 12:50:22 PM
German teletext claims in their "deceased this date" section that Carl sang "most of their hits", but at least the two tracks they give as an example really have Carl leads: GOK and GV.

And I didn't know that Falco ("Rock me Amadeus") and Carl died the exact same day.

I did know that. But I forgot that it was today.

Mixed feelings... This very day my wife and I are celebrating our copper wedding anniversary. Enjoying a few days off, and while driving to our romantic little getaway for the next couple of days, listening to the radio, someone starts a topic on Falco's passing 16 years ago... and that's when I hit me that it was also the date of Carl's passing today.

In the US, copper is the 7th. Is it the 9th in the Netherlands? 


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Ed Roach on February 06, 2014, 12:52:32 PM
Great story, Steve.  And you were in good company, being with my old friend Brian Berry!

Carl truly was one of a kind, with the voice & spirit of an angel...

https://www.facebook.com/roachclips68


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: retrokid67 on February 06, 2014, 12:59:42 PM
I have very vivid memories of one very special encounter with Carl, thanks to Brian Berry of Indianapolis.  In the fall of 1983 we went to see the Beach Boys in Evansville, IN., as the guests of Brian.  Brian had been a friend of Carl's for many years.

Part of that evening was a two hour coffee and dessert thing in a semi private dining area with Carl Wilson and Gina Martin, his fiance.  It was me, my wife at the time, Brian Berry and his wife and a local DJ.  We sat there with Carl and Gina and talked about everything under the sun... I talked with Gina about how much I loved her Dad (Dean) and we all had a good laugh about the Matt Helm movies he made.  We also talked about Dean's new music video, directed by Ricci Martin, which was getting played on MTV. 

Carl was gracious and fun... treating all of us like best friends.  We talked about deep catalog Beach Boys songs we'd like to see added to the playlist.  This Whole World was first on everyone's list.  Carl seems surprised that we even knew the song.  His eyes lit up and he said, "Yeah... that's a great one... I'd love to do that." 

The biggest kick was seeing the other Beach Boys.  All of them wondered just who in the hell was at Carl's table.   This was Carl's sense of fun.  He warned us... he said, this is going to drive the guys crazy.  One by one, they're going to stick their heads in here and stare, wondering who you folks are.  They won't be able to stand it and eventually, they'll all come over to say hi, just to find out what's going on.  And sure enough, one at a time, throughout the evening, they all walked over to say hi and get introduced to everyone.  Bruce was first, naturally, being the politician,  then Al, who was very friendly.

Mike was last of all.  He didn't stop, at first, just snuck his head in the room, scoping us out, then slowly made his way over to say hello.  He made a joke, as I recall, then slipped out the back door of the room.  The best part was that Carl got such a kick out of doing it.  He made us feel like we were in on the joke, all conspiring, all trying to keep a straight face.
 
In fact, he made us all feel like his friends, which was exactly how he treated us.  As friends.  I will never forget that night, now over 30 years ago.

 



The last part of the story was funny I'm picturing it right now  :lol


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Emdeeh on February 06, 2014, 02:24:36 PM
Wonderful story, Steve, thanks for sharing. Very CW -- you couldn't help but love the guy (and I still do).


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: The 4th Wilson Bro. on February 06, 2014, 02:38:00 PM
Mike posted this nice message on his Facebook page:

'No one did it better than Carl! Whether singing or playing lead guitar, my Cuz was the best. Sadly for all of us, he left us on this day in 1998, but I have to tell you, he's with us every time we step on stage. His standard of musical perfection forever influences us to do the very best we can every night...a Carl Wilson legacy! When we perform God Only Knows...sometimes it feels, as he never really left us. His was a perfect voice for a perfect song. The Beach Boys would have never reached the heights we have without you…Carl. Carl, I Love you forever...ML'

God bless Mike Love for those very kind (and true) words about the great Carl Wilson.  I believe that, despite their occasional differences, Carl and Mike were close and loved each other – as first cousins should.

Also, thank you Steve Latshaw for sharing that great story about those few hours you spent with Carl and Gina.  Those are memories that will surely endure for the rest of your life.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: feelsflow on February 06, 2014, 02:38:48 PM
I couldn't begin to explain how much Carl meant to my life.  I miss him very, very, very, very much.
.
Carl was The Bomb.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: CenturyDeprived on February 06, 2014, 02:51:24 PM
Hard to wrap my head around the fact that more time has elapsed since Carl's passing, than the time between the releases of "Surfin'" and "Love You".

RIP, Carl.

Until going online this morning, I had forgotten that it was the anniversary of Carl's passing. Coincidentally, just last night, I was watching this video of Carl on "Solid Gold" from 1984 (which was only a few months after Dennis' passing), and I got chills just when I heard Carl speaking on this video between songs. The kind, gentle soul that he was shines through simply when he talks in conversation with the host of the program. There's just something intangible about him (which I can only gleam from watching videos, having never met the man) that tells me that he was a truly, genuinely empathetic, good human being. I wish there were more people like Carl in the world, but he was one in a million.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMYYyPP0mcE


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: CenturyDeprived on February 06, 2014, 02:59:11 PM
R.I.P.
I think he died around 8 months before I was born. Very sad.

I'm starting to get into his music, mainly through the brilliant Surf's Up album.
Would anyone reccomend his solo albums or not?

Can I just say that it gives old geezers in their 30s (like me) hope for the future that someone born in 1998 is a budding Beach Boys freak. Hat's off to ya, man. Sometimes it's easy for me to think that the music tastes of the younger generation are totally going to sh*t, but I'm glad there are signs of hope  ;D

Carl's solo albums have their moments, and "Heaven" alone is worth the cost of admission (maybe the best BB-related tune of the entire 80s decade)... but keep your expectations relatively low for the rest of the material, and you might find a few enjoyable surprises here and there.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: DMBeard_13 on February 06, 2014, 07:01:38 PM
This article about Carl Wilson includes the 2001 interview that I did with Brian Wilson and Jerry Schilling. This is the first and only time I am publicly sharing Brian's interview in its entirety. http://www.examiner.com/article/carl-wilson-s-spirit-lives-on-his-music


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Emdeeh on February 06, 2014, 08:19:36 PM
Thanks for that article, David!


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Jay on February 06, 2014, 08:45:41 PM
I can't believe it's been 16 years already. I remember it like it was yesterday. For the whole day, whenever a program on VH1 cut to a commercial, there were always a few seconds of a picture of Carl shown, with "1946-1997" below the picture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDAO4F0odW8


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Mikie on February 06, 2014, 09:30:33 PM
I met him once and had a little talk.  Great guy.  He still owes me 5 bucks.  He could sing the L.A. phone book.  No kidding.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Lonely Summer on February 06, 2014, 10:47:05 PM
My favorite voice, ever. So thankful  I got to see his solo show in 1983, wish every Carl fan could have seen him with his own band. We all love what he did in the Beach Boys, but it was extra special to see him onstage, doing a different style of music that was all his own. Add to that the fact that he took the time to talk to a couple starstruck kids after the show - me and my first girlfriend...all I can say is, what a guy :)


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: smile-holland on February 07, 2014, 12:38:30 AM
Mixed feelings... This very day my wife and I are celebrating our copper wedding anniversary. Enjoying a few days off, and while driving to our romantic little getaway for the next couple of days, listening to the radio, someone starts a topic on Falco's passing 16 years ago... and that's when I hit me that it was also the date of Carl's passing today.

In the US, copper is the 7th. Is it the 9th in the Netherlands?  

I shouldn't be derailing this topic... but: 7th? Didn't know that. Overhere it's 12œ (at least, that's what I meant)


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: The 4th Wilson Bro. on February 07, 2014, 09:31:50 AM
This article about Carl Wilson includes the 2001 interview that I did with Brian Wilson and Jerry Schilling. This is the first and only time I am publicly sharing Brian's interview in its entirety. http://www.examiner.com/article/carl-wilson-s-spirit-lives-on-his-music

David:  Thank you so much for the article and for sharing what Brian had to say about his baby brother in that 2001 interview.  If I wasn't a grizzled old 60-plus geezer, those thoughts and memories (yours and Brian's) of Carl probably would have made me cry.

And to CenturyDeprived for his post about Carl:  You echoed the feelings of so many Carl Wilson fans when you spoke of his "kind and gentle soul," and how it would always shine through, even in videos.

We can only imagine how much better C50 would have been had Carl Wilson been there to sing the Beach Boys' songs as only he could and to play guitar alongside his childhood friend, David Marks.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: drbeachboy on February 07, 2014, 10:03:05 AM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on February 07, 2014, 10:10:30 AM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on February 07, 2014, 10:12:39 AM
For my money, Carl Wilson had the finest voice of any white singer in music history, period.

God Only Knows, Darlin', I Can Hear Music - it just doesn't get much better...


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: drbeachboy on February 07, 2014, 10:16:46 AM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on February 07, 2014, 10:21:52 AM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: The 4th Wilson Bro. on February 07, 2014, 10:32:00 AM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite

The good doctor is obviously – like myself – an American.  Here, it's "favorite," (fa-vor-ite).

I actually believe the number of smileysmile posters from Great Britain outnumber those of us from the U.S.  You can always spot a British poster by the "misspelled"  ;) words in his/her posts.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: drbeachboy on February 07, 2014, 10:43:27 AM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...
You know that it is our language too? We didn't borrow or steal it. It has been here since you guys decided it was time to colonialize the natives in America.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Gohi on February 07, 2014, 11:06:10 AM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Uh, both spellings work just fine.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on February 07, 2014, 11:46:59 AM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...
You know that it is our language too? We didn't borrow or steal it. It has been here since you guys decided it was time to colonialize the natives in America.

Oh it was the Brits butchering all the native American Indians was it? I didn't realise (or realize) that Mel Gibson's version of events had become established fact. We'll be burning churches full of Christians next...  


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: drbeachboy on February 07, 2014, 12:07:18 PM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...
You know that it is our language too? We didn't borrow or steal it. It has been here since you guys decided it was time to colonialize the natives in America.

Oh it was the Brits butchering all the native American Indians was it? I didn't realise (or realize) that Mel Gibson's version of events had become established fact. We'll be burning churches full of Christians next...   
While this is not the thread to debate this, although Carl's "The Trader" does speak of this, just remember that what came after, all started from the European colonialization of America. From the moment the white man stepped on American soil, the natives of this land have been put through pure hell. Believe me, I take no pride in how the Native Americans have been treated throughout history, along with the many other peoples who have come to this land.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: lee on February 07, 2014, 12:38:56 PM
I'm 33 and only became a huge fan of The Beach Boys in 2010 when a friend of mine that I worked with (he was 60 years old) turned me on to them. He was letting me borrow the twofer cds and filling me in on songs that I had to listen to. I fell in love with the albums Friends, 20/20 and Sunflower after the first listen. Listening to those albums, Carl and Dennis stuck out as my favorites. Hearing Carl's vocal on I Can Hear Music absolutely blew me away. That vocal is still my favorite vocal of anyone on any album, period. Absolute perfection.

Looking forward to seeing them live and doing some internet research, I can't tell you how devastated I was when I found out that both Carl and Dennis had already passed away. It makes it all the more sad that both passed earlier than they should have. I constantly try to find the silver lining that both brought beautiful music and joy to millions of people for the short time they were here.

At times it does really make me sad that I was never able to meet either of them or even see/hear them perform live. Thankfully I live in a time of youtube where I can watch and listen to live performances, interviews, etc. that I wouldn't have been able to witness otherwise. From everything I've seen, Carl seemed to be very kind, sincere and have a good soul. As much as I enjoyed the 50th anniversary shows, there was definitely an emptiness without his presence. For having never met the man, I miss him very, very much.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Disney Boy (1985) on February 07, 2014, 01:34:11 PM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...
You know that it is our language too? We didn't borrow or steal it. It has been here since you guys decided it was time to colonialize the natives in America.

Oh it was the Brits butchering all the native American Indians was it? I didn't realise (or realize) that Mel Gibson's version of events had become established fact. We'll be burning churches full of Christians next...   
While this is not the thread to debate this, although Carl's "The Trader" does speak of this, just remember that what came after, all started from the European colonialization of America. From the moment the white man stepped on American soil, the natives of this land have been put through pure hell. Believe me, I take no pride in how the Native Americans have been treated throughout history, along with the many other peoples who have come to this land.

Ok, let's drop it already.

As a peace offering, here is Brit funnyman Stewart Lee doing a very funny skit re the shitness of Mel Gibson's Braveheart (extra kudos to Lee, this was recorded years before Gibson's fall from public grace). Watch from 3:40: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHA1ufmLZQY


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: bluesno1fann on February 07, 2014, 01:40:40 PM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: bgas on February 07, 2014, 01:58:52 PM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.

And why shouldn't we drop the archaic "English" spellings? 
We wanted to get away from all things overdone that way.  America stands alone.  Folks aren't clamoring to attain the UK way of life, they want AMERICAN. Get it? 


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: bluesno1fann on February 07, 2014, 02:07:56 PM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.

And why shouldn't we drop the archaic "English" spellings?  
We wanted to get away from all things overdone that way.  America stands alone.  Folks aren't clamoring to attain the UK way of life, they want AMERICAN. Get it?  

The English spellings is far from archaic. Funny how you think that way, as literally no other countries thinks like that. Because as the English language originates from the UK (duh!), the English spellings from the UK are actually pure, proper English.
So because you guys want to be different, good for you. Culturally you can be as different as you'd like. It's just funny how some guy in America decides to drop certain letters from certain words and everyone follows that.
Just remember: American English will NEVER be proper English


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: bgas on February 07, 2014, 02:18:45 PM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.

And why shouldn't we drop the archaic "English" spellings?  
We wanted to get away from all things overdone that way.  America stands alone.  Folks aren't clamoring to attain the UK way of life, they want AMERICAN. Get it?  

The English spellings is far from archaic. Funny how you think that way, as literally no other countries thinks like that. Because as the English language originates from the UK (duh!), the English spellings from the UK are actually pure, proper English.
So because you guys want to be different, good for you. Culturally you can be as different as you'd like. It's just funny how some guy in America decides to drop certain letters from certain words and everyone follows that.
Just remember: American English will NEVER be proper English

Yeah, like I said:  ARCHAIC 

>>/ärˈkāik/    1.    very old or old-fashioned.   <<   


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: bluesno1fann on February 07, 2014, 02:24:25 PM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.

And why shouldn't we drop the archaic "English" spellings?  
We wanted to get away from all things overdone that way.  America stands alone.  Folks aren't clamoring to attain the UK way of life, they want AMERICAN. Get it?  

The English spellings is far from archaic. Funny how you think that way, as literally no other countries thinks like that. Because as the English language originates from the UK (duh!), the English spellings from the UK are actually pure, proper English.
So because you guys want to be different, good for you. Culturally you can be as different as you'd like. It's just funny how some guy in America decides to drop certain letters from certain words and everyone follows that.
Just remember: American English will NEVER be proper English

Yeah, like I said:  ARCHAIC 

>>/ärˈkāik/    1.    very old or old-fashioned.   <<   

Yeah, nah. Yet you guys wonder why everyone else picture you guys as:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UcedtNmdhRU/Uab3PCvwfKI/AAAAAAAAPwM/snRSLQYouew/s1600/meanwhile-in-'murica-meme-mobilty-scooter-patriot.jpg)


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: bgas on February 07, 2014, 02:42:44 PM
Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.

And why shouldn't we drop the archaic "English" spellings?  
We wanted to get away from all things overdone that way.  America stands alone.  Folks aren't clamoring to attain the UK way of life, they want AMERICAN. Get it?  

The English spellings is far from archaic. Funny how you think that way, as literally no other countries thinks like that. Because as the English language originates from the UK (duh!), the English spellings from the UK are actually pure, proper English.
So because you guys want to be different, good for you. Culturally you can be as different as you'd like. It's just funny how some guy in America decides to drop certain letters from certain words and everyone follows that.
Just remember: American English will NEVER be proper English

Yeah, like I said:  ARCHAIC 

>>/ärˈkāik/    1.    very old or old-fashioned.   <<   

Yeah, nah. Yet you guys wonder why everyone else picture you guys as:
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UcedtNmdhRU/Uab3PCvwfKI/AAAAAAAAPwM/snRSLQYouew/s1600/meanwhile-in-'murica-meme-mobilty-scooter-patriot.jpg)

Ya got it, flaunt it baby!! 
The rest of the world are such wishful weenies....


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: clack on February 07, 2014, 04:03:24 PM
'Favorite' and 'favourite' were both used in GB in the 18th c.  After American independence, British dictionaries standardized one spelling, American dictionaries another. Both variants are "proper English".

British English has gradually moved in the American direction -- the British no longer spell 'error' as errour' or 'horror' as 'horrour', for instance.

Closest I got to meeting Carl is when he and the rest of the Boys were interviewed (not by me, alas) at the college radio station at which I "worked". Interesting that it was Carl, not Mike, who was took on the role of the main spokesman.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Mikie on February 07, 2014, 05:58:04 PM
Who gives a sh*t! It's old news using "u's" where they don't belong.

You know, all through the C50 show that I saw in Berkeley in 2012, I kept thinking about Carl. The last time I'd seen the Beach Boys in 1997, Carl was with them - in fact all the way back to when I first saw them in the early 70's. So if you were use to seeing that line-up all those years.....it just seemed like Carl was missing.  He just belonged up there next to Mike and Al and Bruce.  There was a missing link and it was obvious. Carl woulda loved it. I really think he would have loved that tour. And of course Dennis too. It was just a weird feeling watching the band with integral figures missing. Especially Carl. The vocals were very good, but it just wasn't the same without Clem.


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: bluesno1fann on February 07, 2014, 06:01:28 PM
Who gives a sh*t! It's old news using "u's" where they don't belong.


We were just having an interesting and pleasent discussion about Differences in spelling with the American and British English.

Now, Keep Calm and talk about Carl Wilson  :-D


Title: Re: Remembering Carl Wilson
Post by: Gregg on February 07, 2014, 06:36:19 PM
Who gives a sh*t! It's old news using "u's" where they don't belong.

You know, all through the C50 show that I saw in Berkeley in 2012, I kept thinking about Carl. The last time I'd seen the Beach Boys in 1997, Carl was with them - in fact all the way back to when I first saw them in the early 70's. So if you were use to seeing that line-up all those years.....it just seemed like Carl was missing.  He just belonged up there next to Mike and Al and Bruce.  There was a missing link and it was obvious. Carl woulda loved it. I really think he would have loved that tour. And of course Dennis too. It was just a weird feeling watching the band with a integral figures missing. Especially Carl. The vocals were very good, but it just wasn't the same without Clem.

I felt the exact same way, Mikie. I had seen so many Beach Boys shows since the first one at the Summit in Houston in 1978 up to the last one with Carl in Dallas, TX in 1997, that it just seemed a little sad at the C50 show I saw in Houston. Don't get me wrong. It was very cool to be on the front row seeing all the guys together again; but Carl was always such a huge, integral part of a Beach Boys concert that there was no denying that it just wasn't the real deal.

Carl was such a huge talent, so gifted. There was no replacing him vocally, as well as his calm, cool, leadership he brought to every show.