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« Reply #25 on: February 07, 2014, 10:12:39 AM »

For my money, Carl Wilson had the finest voice of any white singer in music history, period.

God Only Knows, Darlin', I Can Hear Music - it just doesn't get much better...
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« Reply #26 on: February 07, 2014, 10:16:46 AM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!
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Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen.  ---hypehat
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« Reply #27 on: February 07, 2014, 10:21:52 AM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...
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« Reply #28 on: February 07, 2014, 10:32:00 AM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite

The good doctor is obviously – like myself – an American.  Here, it's "favorite," (fa-vor-ite).

I actually believe the number of smileysmile posters from Great Britain outnumber those of us from the U.S.  You can always spot a British poster by the "misspelled"  Wink words in his/her posts.
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« Reply #29 on: February 07, 2014, 10:43:27 AM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...
You know that it is our language too? We didn't borrow or steal it. It has been here since you guys decided it was time to colonialize the natives in America.
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The Brianista Prayer

Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen.  ---hypehat
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« Reply #30 on: February 07, 2014, 11:06:10 AM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Uh, both spellings work just fine.
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« Reply #31 on: February 07, 2014, 11:46:59 AM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...
You know that it is our language too? We didn't borrow or steal it. It has been here since you guys decided it was time to colonialize the natives in America.

Oh it was the Brits butchering all the native American Indians was it? I didn't realise (or realize) that Mel Gibson's version of events had become established fact. We'll be burning churches full of Christians next...  
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« Reply #32 on: February 07, 2014, 12:07:18 PM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...
You know that it is our language too? We didn't borrow or steal it. It has been here since you guys decided it was time to colonialize the natives in America.

Oh it was the Brits butchering all the native American Indians was it? I didn't realise (or realize) that Mel Gibson's version of events had become established fact. We'll be burning churches full of Christians next...   
While this is not the thread to debate this, although Carl's "The Trader" does speak of this, just remember that what came after, all started from the European colonialization of America. From the moment the white man stepped on American soil, the natives of this land have been put through pure hell. Believe me, I take no pride in how the Native Americans have been treated throughout history, along with the many other peoples who have come to this land.
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Oh Brian
Thou Art In Hawthorne,
Harmonied Be Thy name
Your Kingdom Come,
Your Steak Well Done,
On Stage As It Is In Studio,
Give Us This Day, Our Shortenin' Bread
And Forgive Us Our Bootlegs,
As We Also Have Forgiven Our Wife And Managers,
And Lead Us Not Into Kokomo,
But Deliver Us From Mike Love.
Amen.  ---hypehat
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« Reply #33 on: February 07, 2014, 12:38:56 PM »

I'm 33 and only became a huge fan of The Beach Boys in 2010 when a friend of mine that I worked with (he was 60 years old) turned me on to them. He was letting me borrow the twofer cds and filling me in on songs that I had to listen to. I fell in love with the albums Friends, 20/20 and Sunflower after the first listen. Listening to those albums, Carl and Dennis stuck out as my favorites. Hearing Carl's vocal on I Can Hear Music absolutely blew me away. That vocal is still my favorite vocal of anyone on any album, period. Absolute perfection.

Looking forward to seeing them live and doing some internet research, I can't tell you how devastated I was when I found out that both Carl and Dennis had already passed away. It makes it all the more sad that both passed earlier than they should have. I constantly try to find the silver lining that both brought beautiful music and joy to millions of people for the short time they were here.

At times it does really make me sad that I was never able to meet either of them or even see/hear them perform live. Thankfully I live in a time of youtube where I can watch and listen to live performances, interviews, etc. that I wouldn't have been able to witness otherwise. From everything I've seen, Carl seemed to be very kind, sincere and have a good soul. As much as I enjoyed the 50th anniversary shows, there was definitely an emptiness without his presence. For having never met the man, I miss him very, very much.
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« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2014, 01:34:11 PM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...
You know that it is our language too? We didn't borrow or steal it. It has been here since you guys decided it was time to colonialize the natives in America.

Oh it was the Brits butchering all the native American Indians was it? I didn't realise (or realize) that Mel Gibson's version of events had become established fact. We'll be burning churches full of Christians next...   
While this is not the thread to debate this, although Carl's "The Trader" does speak of this, just remember that what came after, all started from the European colonialization of America. From the moment the white man stepped on American soil, the natives of this land have been put through pure hell. Believe me, I take no pride in how the Native Americans have been treated throughout history, along with the many other peoples who have come to this land.

Ok, let's drop it already.

As a peace offering, here is Brit funnyman Stewart Lee doing a very funny skit re the shitness of Mel Gibson's Braveheart (extra kudos to Lee, this was recorded years before Gibson's fall from public grace). Watch from 3:40: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHA1ufmLZQY
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« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2014, 01:40:40 PM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.
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« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2014, 01:58:52 PM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.

And why shouldn't we drop the archaic "English" spellings? 
We wanted to get away from all things overdone that way.  America stands alone.  Folks aren't clamoring to attain the UK way of life, they want AMERICAN. Get it? 
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« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2014, 02:07:56 PM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.

And why shouldn't we drop the archaic "English" spellings?  
We wanted to get away from all things overdone that way.  America stands alone.  Folks aren't clamoring to attain the UK way of life, they want AMERICAN. Get it?  

The English spellings is far from archaic. Funny how you think that way, as literally no other countries thinks like that. Because as the English language originates from the UK (duh!), the English spellings from the UK are actually pure, proper English.
So because you guys want to be different, good for you. Culturally you can be as different as you'd like. It's just funny how some guy in America decides to drop certain letters from certain words and everyone follows that.
Just remember: American English will NEVER be proper English
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« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2014, 02:18:45 PM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.

And why shouldn't we drop the archaic "English" spellings?  
We wanted to get away from all things overdone that way.  America stands alone.  Folks aren't clamoring to attain the UK way of life, they want AMERICAN. Get it?  

The English spellings is far from archaic. Funny how you think that way, as literally no other countries thinks like that. Because as the English language originates from the UK (duh!), the English spellings from the UK are actually pure, proper English.
So because you guys want to be different, good for you. Culturally you can be as different as you'd like. It's just funny how some guy in America decides to drop certain letters from certain words and everyone follows that.
Just remember: American English will NEVER be proper English

Yeah, like I said:  ARCHAIC 

>>/ärˈkāik/    1.    very old or old-fashioned.   <<   
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« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2014, 02:24:25 PM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.

And why shouldn't we drop the archaic "English" spellings?  
We wanted to get away from all things overdone that way.  America stands alone.  Folks aren't clamoring to attain the UK way of life, they want AMERICAN. Get it?  

The English spellings is far from archaic. Funny how you think that way, as literally no other countries thinks like that. Because as the English language originates from the UK (duh!), the English spellings from the UK are actually pure, proper English.
So because you guys want to be different, good for you. Culturally you can be as different as you'd like. It's just funny how some guy in America decides to drop certain letters from certain words and everyone follows that.
Just remember: American English will NEVER be proper English

Yeah, like I said:  ARCHAIC 

>>/ärˈkāik/    1.    very old or old-fashioned.   <<   

Yeah, nah. Yet you guys wonder why everyone else picture you guys as:
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« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2014, 02:42:44 PM »

Reading Brian's remarks made me well-up. I cried too on the day that he passed. For me, it was as if one of my own family members passed away. Carl was my favorite and the one that I most related to in the band. It hasn't been the same since.

Hi Doctor, it's favourite - with a u.

Definition of favourite in English:
favourite
Line breaks: faŠvour|ite
Not in America, Pally!

Yeah, that's weird the way Americans use our fantastic language but take out all the 'u's. What's that about? No wonder you (mistakenly) think my spelling is bad...

I've noticed that every other English-speaking country uses the proper English spelling, yet only the Americans spell things differently. It's not just favourite. They often drop the 'u' in some words or the 'a' from ae in others.
It is very weird indeed.

And why shouldn't we drop the archaic "English" spellings?  
We wanted to get away from all things overdone that way.  America stands alone.  Folks aren't clamoring to attain the UK way of life, they want AMERICAN. Get it?  

The English spellings is far from archaic. Funny how you think that way, as literally no other countries thinks like that. Because as the English language originates from the UK (duh!), the English spellings from the UK are actually pure, proper English.
So because you guys want to be different, good for you. Culturally you can be as different as you'd like. It's just funny how some guy in America decides to drop certain letters from certain words and everyone follows that.
Just remember: American English will NEVER be proper English

Yeah, like I said:  ARCHAIC 

>>/ärˈkāik/    1.    very old or old-fashioned.   <<   

Yeah, nah. Yet you guys wonder why everyone else picture you guys as:


Ya got it, flaunt it baby!! 
The rest of the world are such wishful weenies....
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« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2014, 04:03:24 PM »

'Favorite' and 'favourite' were both used in GB in the 18th c.  After American independence, British dictionaries standardized one spelling, American dictionaries another. Both variants are "proper English".

British English has gradually moved in the American direction -- the British no longer spell 'error' as errour' or 'horror' as 'horrour', for instance.

Closest I got to meeting Carl is when he and the rest of the Boys were interviewed (not by me, alas) at the college radio station at which I "worked". Interesting that it was Carl, not Mike, who was took on the role of the main spokesman.
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« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2014, 05:58:04 PM »

Who gives a sh*t! It's old news using "u's" where they don't belong.

You know, all through the C50 show that I saw in Berkeley in 2012, I kept thinking about Carl. The last time I'd seen the Beach Boys in 1997, Carl was with them - in fact all the way back to when I first saw them in the early 70's. So if you were use to seeing that line-up all those years.....it just seemed like Carl was missing.  He just belonged up there next to Mike and Al and Bruce.  There was a missing link and it was obvious. Carl woulda loved it. I really think he would have loved that tour. And of course Dennis too. It was just a weird feeling watching the band with integral figures missing. Especially Carl. The vocals were very good, but it just wasn't the same without Clem.
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« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2014, 06:01:28 PM »

Who gives a sh*t! It's old news using "u's" where they don't belong.


We were just having an interesting and pleasent discussion about Differences in spelling with the American and British English.

Now, Keep Calm and talk about Carl Wilson  Cheesy
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« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2014, 06:36:19 PM »

Who gives a sh*t! It's old news using "u's" where they don't belong.

You know, all through the C50 show that I saw in Berkeley in 2012, I kept thinking about Carl. The last time I'd seen the Beach Boys in 1997, Carl was with them - in fact all the way back to when I first saw them in the early 70's. So if you were use to seeing that line-up all those years.....it just seemed like Carl was missing.  He just belonged up there next to Mike and Al and Bruce.  There was a missing link and it was obvious. Carl woulda loved it. I really think he would have loved that tour. And of course Dennis too. It was just a weird feeling watching the band with a integral figures missing. Especially Carl. The vocals were very good, but it just wasn't the same without Clem.

I felt the exact same way, Mikie. I had seen so many Beach Boys shows since the first one at the Summit in Houston in 1978 up to the last one with Carl in Dallas, TX in 1997, that it just seemed a little sad at the C50 show I saw in Houston. Don't get me wrong. It was very cool to be on the front row seeing all the guys together again; but Carl was always such a huge, integral part of a Beach Boys concert that there was no denying that it just wasn't the real deal.

Carl was such a huge talent, so gifted. There was no replacing him vocally, as well as his calm, cool, leadership he brought to every show.
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