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http://www.montgomerynews.com/articles/2013/03/26/entertainment/doc5151c0ad005ae357009610.txt

Ask Mike Love if he’s still having fun singing about surf, sand, cars and girls for more than 50 years now and he’s quick with an answer.

“No . . . I’m having fun, fun, fun. And good vibrations,” said Love.

Beach Boys humor. Add in your own rimshot here.

“How can you not have fun when you have an audience full of people who still enjoy hearing the stuff you had a hand in writing and creating and singing? It’s a blessing, that’s what it is.”
Love, along with longtime Beach Boys bandmate Bruce Johnston, will be touring throughout April under the Beach Boys banner and will make several stops in the greater Philadelphia area: Friday, April 5, 8 p.m. at the TD Bank Arts Centre in Sewell, N.J.; Saturday, April 6, 8 p.m. at the Community Theatre in Morristown, N.J.; Sunday, April 7, 7 p.m. at the American Music Theatre in Lancaster, Pa.; and Friday, May 31, 8 p.m. at the Bergen Performing Arts Center in Englewood, N.J.

And yes, it’s not particularly easy for a 72-year-old rock star and co-founder of the iconic group to continue to be on tour, night after night, year after year. But Love is a longtime believer in transcendental meditation — since 1967, in fact — and maintaining a healthy lifestyle.

“You have to be careful about getting tired — that’s why I meditate,” said Love in a recent interview from his home in Lake Tahoe, Nev. “It’s invaluable to me. I don’t think I could handle the level of activity — the touring — without the benefit of transcendental meditation.

“We learned the hard way in the ’60s,” he said. “You can’t go out and burn the candle at both ends and you can’t drink and smoke pot and hope to be able to function like we do. You live a sensible lifestyle, get your rest when you can, meditate a couple of times a day and it all adds up to longevity and being able to support a fair amount of activity.”

Of course, it wouldn’t be a Beach Boys story without some discussion of the highly successful 50th anniversary tour that the surviving original members — Brian Wilson, Love, Al Jardine, Johnston and David Marks — completed in 2012.

And it wouldn’t be a Beach Boys story without the well-documented fact that it ended with something less than total good vibrations among the band members
Love, Johnston and their band, which has toured under the Beach Boys name for years without Wilson, Jardine and Marks, had scheduled dates after the 50th anniversary tour ended in late 2012. Consequently, those dates did not include Wilson, Jardine and Marks.

The two camps engaged in some back-and-forth, Wilson and Jardine claiming publicly that they didn’t know why the momentum created by the 50th anniversary couldn’t continue and Love insisting that the tour had a finite number of dates and once those were completed, that was the end of the obligation.

Love even went so far as to write a letter to fans that was published in the Los Angeles Times in October 2012 clarifying his position that he didn’t “fire” Wilson, Jardine and Marks from the band and his rationale about moving on with his touring version of the Beach Boys.

Five months later, Love hasn’t changed his tune. And he’s not afraid to restate his position, although he does leave the door open ever-so-slightly that another reunion tour could happen.

“I maintain the attitude that there was an agreed-upon amount of shows that we were to do on the anniversary celebration,” he said. “Those shows were accomplished and I think a lot of fans got a lot of pleasure out of it and we had a good time doing it.

“But I’m not opposed to any future involvement. It’s just that those agreed-upon dates came and went and now we’re off to do what we do with our group. Al has his group and Brian has his group.”

What Love doesn’t understand is the continued backlash and animosity toward him.

“If you’ve looked at Al’s website recently, there’s so much ‘Hate Mike Love’ stuff going on. You would wonder why he’d entertain that stuff on his website,” said Love. “I’d never post anything or allow anybody to say anything bad about anybody on mine. I wish people would understand.

“You know, they used to say that the Beatles wouldn’t be the Beatles without John Lennon. Well, maybe so, but Paul McCartney is not chopped liver. Paul McCartney is brilliant and clever and talented and prolific. So why do you have to disparage one person because you happen to have a favorite personality in a group? I just don’t understand that.

“Some people think you have to knock somebody down in order to build yourself up,” said Love. “I don’t look at it that way. To the mentality that likes to disparage other people, I say perhaps you should get a life. It’s just wrong thinking in my opinion and I don’t mind saying that.”

Still, the music and harmonies survive into a fifth decade. And like the original Beach Boys, there’s still a familiar feel to the band now. Love’s son, Christian, plays guitar and provides vocals, mostly on the parts that the late Carl Wilson used to sing.

“Christian does Carl’s parts,” said Love. “Carl had this beautiful quality, and Christian has quite a similar quality and range. Carl could go a little higher, but Christian sounds fantastic on the lead on ‘Good Vibrations.’”

Other current band members include Randall Kirsch on bass and vocals; Tim Bonhomme on keyboards and vocals; John Cowsill on percussion and vocals; and Scott Totten on guitar and vocals.

Love said he likes playing all types of venues and he’ll continue to do so as long as he’s able and the fans want to hear the Beach Boys.

“It’s a darn good thing that we’re still able to sing the same songs in the same keys and that the people actually still come to see us,” said Love. “I like it all, I really do. I like playing anything from a club to a stadium and everything in between.”

"To the mentality that likes to disparage other people, I say perhaps you should get a life."

Behold the paradox that is Michael Edward Love!

The Tao of Mike Love?

The Mindfulness of Mike Love?

The Mike Love of Mike Love?

WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN!

Mike really doesn't get the fact the he gives people reasons to hate him. It really seemed like he'd seen the error of his ways at the Grammy museum but that didn't last long.

He's clueless

“If you’ve looked at Al’s website recently, there’s so much ‘Hate Mike Love’ stuff going on. You would wonder why he’d entertain that stuff on his website,” said Love. “I’d never post anything or allow anybody to say anything bad about anybody on mine. I wish people would understand.".

Problem with this statement is that it's not true. Aljardine.com has no board or venue for comments. He used to have a calif saga board or somerhing but I think it's pretty comatose. The Lovester must be referring to Al's Facebook page. So Mike expects Al to censor his FB page?

I think that's a great idea.

Billy,  please delete any negative Mike Love posts.  :lol

Ugh...more Mike bashing.  Seriously?

Yeah, here we go again.

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What did you expect on a thread like this?

Yeah, it's pretty snoozy. Restless souls waiting for the MIC  box set.

For real, man.  Been there done that (ad nauseam) with the anti-Mike, anti-Bruce sentiments. Time to talk about other stuff until the box set is released.

Have I seen the 25 year old clip of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame rant that's been posted on  nearly every music blog/site on the net and discussed to infinity?  Um yes I have, thanks.  :-\

It's just a little surprising that every little thing Mike does can still elicit such a strong reaction by people on this board.  I mean, honestly, shouldn't we be immune to this stuff by now? Personally, I see nothing wrong with anything Mike has said in this article.  It's his right to practically give his haters the finger (in his own limited way, of course).  "Get a life" is the correct solution to those wishing to dredge up the same old drama, over and over.

“But I’m not opposed to any future involvement. It’s just that those agreed-upon dates came and went and now we’re off to do what we do with our group. Al has his group and Brian has his group.”

See if his credibility with the majority of Beach Boys fans wasn't so low that we can't give him the benefit of the doubt there wouldn't be as much anxiety as there is now in Beach Boys land.  The crux of this whole issue is most see the ending of the C50 tour as another one of Mike Love's never ending games.  As I mentioned a few days ago, the man doesn't get even a shred of the benefit of the doubt among Beach Boys fans and I guess if he really is that oblivious to the drama he creates around himself, I could see how he could be confused.  However continuing to antagonize Beach Boys fans by telling them that they should "get a life" is probably not the best way to get people to stop looking for reasons to bash him.

Look I don't know what the deal is with this guy.  I don't pretend to know either.  It just seems like the name Mike Love has become synonymous with a great amount of antipathy and words like "killjoy".  This may be a bit unfair, I don't know.  I think a lot of Beach Boys fans do need to let go of long held grudges against Mike Love but it would also be fair to point out that some of his actions and comments haven't exactly aided the cause of healing over old wounds.  Maybe the man is in dire need of a publicist?  Someone who could screen over some of the stuff he says before it hits print because intentional or not he sure has a way of detonating land mines whenever he makes a public statement.

Really? He dissed Al and lied about Al's website. No one put a gun to his head and made him say that. He sure does say quite a few disparaging things about people saying disparaging things about him. But then he's not that kind of person to think thst way. What a guy!

Personally, I had a very disgusting experience with Mr. Love. So your wasting your time on me. I severely dislike the man. Their is a reason Jon's BB book had a chapter on people hating ML.

He lied?  How did he lie?  Because he mis-spoke and when he said "Al's website"..he really meant his Facebook page?  Wow...what a liar!  I know he was talking about Al's FB page, you very well know he was talking about his FB page...so just let it go.  Al and Brian's pages were flooded with fans posting awful things...is that not true? 

It's unfortunate you had a disgusting "experience with Mr. Love"...and if you're eagerly waiting for me to beg you to spill the details on that specific encounter--you are wasting YOUR time.   

There is a reason for every fan to have their own position on Mike but honestly, it's 2013.  Some of you are acting like you just met this dude.  This is who he is--and has been for as long as we've known him.  I can see other types of fans still going nuts over this type of stuff but for this entire board to implode after everything Mike says is kind of ridiculous.  Obviously...that's just my position.  So...carry on.

C-blocked by Mike Love. Oh, the humanity!

I'm pretty sure at age 72 Mike is not gonna change and suddenly want to play SMiLE in it's entirety at Carnegie Hall or  whatever. He doesn't want to do the artsy fartsy stuff, he wants to play the stuff he can get over well at the places he likes to play and he doesn't want to kowtow to the almighty Brian. Why bother getting irritated over what he says?

Ouch, I am devastated.  Seriously dude, if you spend any time on this board are you surprised? The man did an interview, a lot of people don't like ML. No one is making you read this thread. Or maybe you might be happier at www.mikelovefanclub.com

The guy did an interview. Facebook is not Al's website. Mike twice said Al's website. So you don't see this as a dig at Al?  My, you are naive!

Whose irritated? Mike Love bashing is a fun pastime for many.  ;)

Mike is just doesn't seem like a nice person at the end of day. People can spin it a million ways but if people have saying this for half a century, then something is up. The dig at Al is really helping his case to get people off his back ::)

As Mike doesn't really use the internet to him website and Facebook page probably mean the same thing. And as far as the C50 comments go at least it sounds like he's not slamming the door on future work together.

I'm no Mike Love apologist... but the man has done enough legitimately wrong things to criticize him for to dog him out for things he shouldn't be dogged out for.

Just my two cents...if a shitstorm starts I'll have to throw in the whole damn dollar.

I have no problem with Mike's rationale for ending the C50 and going back to his band thing. He had every right to do that.

He just didn't have to take those shots at Al; and then say he's not the kind of person that says disparaging things about people.
I think it's called hypocrisy.

Funny, he didn't mention Brian's board and lord knows people did a lot more serious Mike hating there.

True dat.

Good comments Billy.

What this ultimately boils down to are the fans' inability to let go.  The Beach Boys really stopped being the Beach Boys when Carl died (some would argue even long before that).  Last year's surprisingly cool reunion was a rare exception.  Let's be honest, these guys are senior citizens now with a long history of dysfunction.  I'm not against these guys reuniting if they are really into the idea, but if we have to force them into a room together just to satisfy our neediness for them to "keep it going", then forget it.  

Umm, not true. He gave my certain someone his email address and apparently was  quite active in accessing the internet and sending multiple emails. And he doesn't know a website from Facebook? Granted, Facebook is a new niche that most have never heard of  ;) but I just viewed a website called MikeLove.com.

I almost wish they hadn't reunited last year. It sure doesn't seem to have healed old wounds - if anything, just opened them up further.

I'm happy with the storybook ending, last tour and album. Don't like Mike touring as the BBs but he paid for the license and has the right to do so. But I am never going to like the guy.

definitely agree with the latter point.

you are more than justified in that.

he doesn't run that site.

Didn't know he actually is active online...just realized that him and Bruce then are the only ones. Hmmm...something hilarious about that!

I disagree; the tour and the album were a success, and it was probably a good experience for the whole band.  I think the "breakup" near the end was blown somewhat out of proportion.  If you were looking for that "Disney movie" ending with the band, that was it.  

Ok Oregan. So now we know. Thanks for the info.

Also the only infighting was between Mike and Am. Every other band relationship was fine.

Can't say the same for non-musicians though...

I agree these comments are much ado about nothing. They did it well last year, no need to feel sad.

Oh, there is soooooo much more you don't know. Cracks me up when Mike talks about spirituality and TM.

Which infighting Billy? On the C50?

Funny you mention that.

From the brit site....


Bruce...Hong Kong
Posted on March 25, 2013 at 07:38:46 PM by Kiwicopper

Hi Bruce...did you by chance get to watch any of the rugby at the sevens..did you see the mighty All Blacks (although we did not win)..if so what did you think of our national sport (albeit half a team)..regards...


Re(1): Bruce...Hong Kong
Posted on March 26, 2013 at 02:05:06 AM by Bruce johnston

Kiwicooper:
I did watch a lot of the rugby and it kind of reminds me of a band meeting.

Bruce Johnston
Tokyo
March 26, 2013

 :lol

He didn't say "Beach Boys fans" should get a life, but that people who go out of their way to post abuse about him should.
Which is true.

Yeah.

Oh, and that was supposed to be 'Al'. Damn phone and its autocorrect :lol

With Al?

Ha, you readd my mind. Didn't realize Mike and Al had clashed on the C50. Is that why he is jabbing Al in the interview? Funny, they used to be such close allies.

Yeah, my tablet is constantly causing splleing errors.

Yeah, but they stopped being a *long* time ago. Remember that interview from 1992 or so where Mike talks about how Carl's always smartly dressed on stage, and then says "of course, Al hasn't changed his underwear since we toured Japan in 1966"?

Um the people who antagonize/criticize/abuse him for the most part are "Beach Boys" fans.  The reason being I doubt the general public even cares.  Many people thought all of our guys were dead before the C50 last year.

"All politicians are crooks, but not all crooks are politicians".
He criticised a subset of Beach Boys fans, not the whole set.

Maybe these guys (all of them - maybe except Brian as he seems to have some already down pat), need to get training in "cliche - speak" similar to what Crash Davis (Kevin Costner) taught Nuke Larush (Tim Robbins) in the movie Bull Durham (hey, its almost baseball season) to stay out of trouble with the press- to wit:

 - "We gotta play it 1 day at a time";
 - "Y'know, I'm just happy to be here and hope I can help the ballclub";
 - "I just want to give it my best shot and the good Lord willing, things'll work out";
 - "Gotta play 'em 1 day at a time";
 - "Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, and sometimes it rains".

 ;)

It's pretty much the majority.  There may be a vocal minority that stick up for Mike Love but as I've said in the past very few people give him the benefit of the doubt anymore. 

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Spot on Andrew… was goin to post something similar earlier but it timed out while my lad was puking all over me!

Over 10,000 people signed a petition to stop Mike touring with his version of the Beach Boys. People do care and people don't like Mike.

No, it was a long time before that. Al was temporarily fired in the very early 90s (either 1991 or 92, can't remember which offhand -- AGD's site will say) for having an 'attitude problem', and the main reason Mike started moving to get David back into the band, before Carl even became ill, in the mid-90s was to replace Al.

Maybe, that is approximately 4% to 6% of the number of fans who will attend a Mike & Bruce Beach Boys show this year. Some people might care, but not enough to make that big a difference.

If some people don't like Mike, then why do they care the reunion didn't continue? I don't get that part at all. As far as 10,000 signing a petition, that's just one night's audience for the reunion when they played a larger venue. It's far from the entirety of BB fandom. It represents Brian Wilson fandom, which are a smaller set of people.

There is a schism in BB fandom. There are those who are passionate, and those who just like sweatin' to the oldies like a Richard Simmons video. For the latter group of fans, the Mike Love Beach Boys will do. There are millions of them, apparently, or Mike wouldn't be able to earn a living touring as the Beach Boys with  just Bruce. Most music listeners are indifferent. That's why the Top 40 has always been dominated by mediocrity or worse. People just want to have a good time, they will go to a Beach Boys show, no matter who's in the line-up. Passionate Beach Boys fans who are into the deep catalog can go to a Brian Wilson solo show, as they have for the past ten years plus.  Those folks can also ridicule what Mike says and not go to his shows. It won't change anything as long as Mike has the rights, which were voted to him by Brian. Brian likes making money, too.

No they didn't. They signed a petition asking him "to re-instate the 3 other members to the touring group". Which, of course, is based on the false premise that he fired them.

Even if it wasn't, though, the only preference those people expressed is *for* Mike and Bruce touring with the other three, not *against* them touring as a duo. If you gave those people a straight choice between "Mike and Bruce tour" or "no touring at all", you've no way of knowing how they'd split, because that wasn't the choice put by the petition.

I agree but I when I speak of "Beach Boys" fans I don't speak of the latter group of fans of which you speak.  They don't factor in much to my thinking when I use the term "Beach Boys fans" because at most they go to one concert a year (and that is probably stretching it) and probably haven't even an inkling as to the politics of the band and many of the things that are discussed on a forum like this on a daily basis.  While I understand they are the majority, in terms of what we are discussing in my opinion they don't factor in because in my opinion I'm not sure if they even qualify as "Beach Boys fans".  The reason being there are just as many people these days who go to concerts in order to party or to get drunk as they do to listen to the music on stage.  So until they take their interest in the group a little bit further than going to their one concert every leap year, they don't factor into any discussions regarding the relationship between the band and it's fans.  You can refer to this group as the general public but I will always argue it's a stretch to call them Beach Boys fans.  

I also disagree about there being a difference between Brian Wilson fans and Beach Boys fans.  They are one in the same.  Brian Wilson has not built up a sufficient enough catalog on his own (and likely never will) to separate himself from the unit.  The majority of his solo act revolves around Beach Boys hits, he's identified first by the general public as a "Beach Boy" and second as being Brian Wilson.  It's not a slight against Brian Wilson to point this fact out either as even artists who have careers and successful ones at that after being part of a successful band will  still always be identified with the band first.  John Lennon is a Beatle, Paul McCartney is a Beatle, George Harrison is a Beatle.  All three had successful solo careers but their solo ventures are almost viewed as "side dishes" to the "main course" which is when they were collectively The Beatles.  That being cleared up you will likely find there are very few people who are fans of John Lennon's, Paul McCartney's or George Harrison's respective solo careers who aren't Beatles fans as well.  The same goes for Brian Wilson.  Brian Wilson fans and Beach Boys fans are one in the same.  

I agree, I don't like it how fans are called "brianistas" for saying that Brian was the force behind the group. The other members helped out a huge deal, but the BBs in their prime as a functioning band were a vehicle for BW's ideas.

Yeah although there are extreme cases in every fanbase, I think in general when it comes to this band fans of the collective unit and the individual members are one in the same.  What hurts Mike Love and the rest of the boys is most of them eschewed any type of solo career.  Well to rephrase, all of them tried but none of them succeeded in such wide terms of success where they have separated themselves from the rest of the band.  Brian and Dennis made strides, the rest well not to sound mean spirited but all you can give them realistically is a "A for effort".

However, I've never been one to champion those who make statements such as "Without Brian Wilson, Mike Love would still be pumping gas at the oil & tin".  This is a falsehood of the highest order.  While Mike Love likely would've never found success without his cousin, his cousin would've also never found the type of success he had without his brothers and especially his cousin.  Brian Wilson without The Beach Boys as his vehicle MAY HAVE risen to the point where we might be talking about him as a strong composer from the era of sixties music but he would've never been a rock star without his mates.  He just never had the outgoing personality needed during that phase in the evolution of music to have been much of a success without a frontman the likes of Cousin Mike.  The two cousins needed each other in the sixties to find their respective (collective?) pots of gold at the end of the rainbow.

Mike's Facebook was just updated:

We are having a wonderful time here in Tokyo and the fans here in Asia are amazing and I want to thank them for all the love they have showed us. But I wanted to take a moment to clarify something I said in the Montgomery News piece that ran this week. I misspoke when I referred to the 'Hate Mike Love' material on Al Jardine's Website. I am still learning the difference in terminology between Facebook, Twitter, websites, and the like. Social media is a new creature to me, as it is to many of us, and I did not make the proper distinction between the mediums. Al and I have enjoyed our shared interest in Transcendental Meditation over the years and have valued its focus on positivity. Al and I have been in communication and agree that we both want all of our social media outlets and web based outlets to reflect that positivity. The spirit of the music we created over these decades has always reflected that spirit of positivity and harmony. We hope all our Beach Boys brethren and fans and all those affected by our music share that feeling, and will allow that feeling to influence your words and actions. Negativity is never fun, fun, fun and has nothing to do with Good Vibrations.

Mike Love is his own biggest enemy.

Bingo.

That is what I was hitting on with the " other members helped out a huge deal" statement. Brian was the force behind the group, but the other members input (Chuck Berry, Doo-wop, and folk) made the group a worldwide success. Brian had the huge musical ideas, but the group helped bring them to the market place.

 
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You were saying Oregon?......

Actually LOL at you!

Wow...that's pretty hilarious after what I said yesterday. I PROMISE I'm not Mike Love....I can keep my zipper up! :lol


That's how I feel too.

Somebody should make a TV movie called "1970: The year of Love" which recounts Mike's crazy period. :lol

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I'm not sure if you're joking yourself, but if not (or if anyone else thinks you're not) https://www.facebook.com/OfficialMikeLove/posts/444941128918067 .
I admit it does *read* like an obvious parody of Mike, but it isn't...

I was saying it is not a joke and Andrew did not write it. Because it is on Mike's page!

Mike probably uses MySpace or Friendster LOL!

 :police:

Nah, Mike's down with the hottest in internet entertainment...CompuServe!

Yeah, I just looked. I'll be dammed!  MY BAD. I couldn't imagine Mike's Facebook administer reads our posts but apparently they do.  Or there was a larger outcry. Or Al got pissed.

But this post by "Mike Love" totally validates my posts that Mike dissed, insulted Al and said something untrue. Now, as the term AGD likes to use, some serious backpedaling took place.

Glad I was able to point it out for Mr. Love. Hilarious.

Just looked at Brian's board.  They are all over Mike's Interview.  About him dissing Al, about that Al's website doesn't mention Mike, that even Mike's Facebook page has derogatory comments about Mike. About Mike comparing himself to Paul McCartney.

Funny how people who screw up back track by saying they "want to clarify their comments".

I, based on my personal, inside knowledge, ain't buying that Mike doesn't know Facebook from Twitter from a website.  After all, he has all three.

Are you the new AGD?  You've got all this "inside knowledge" that you're so generously sharing with us! 

So what if he has all three?  You said so yourself that he has an administrator in charge of his social media---it's common sense.  You don't actually think it's actually Mike himself typing these messages up and clicking "Post" on all these different sites, do you?  Mike, just like any other person his age, simply doesn't care to know the difference between Facebook, Twitter and a website.  Throughout the C50 tour, he stood on stage and told everyone to "call up" Amazon.com to buy their new album so that it would reach number one.  "Call up."  Does that sound like something a guy who's on top of the latest technology would say? 

But anyway...continue on with your personal vendetta against the guy.

Gotta say...there's a huge difference between being able to use email or a simple internet search and being social media savvy. Lord knows I've done enough work with customers over various jobs to know that first hand!

I apologize if I'm stating an opinion that has been voiced a bunch of times already. My issue at this point with Mike's stated reasoning for not doing more reunion shows is that it doesn't explain anything. We know the likely (thought not certain) reasons Mike didn't sign up for more reunion shows. But he won't actually state it. He simply is saying, in essence, that he didn't book more reunion shows and booked his own shows because he didn't book more reunion shows and booked his own shows.

Yes, there was an "agreed upon" length to the reunion tour. The question is why he didn't sign on for more. I would respect it at this point a lot more if he'd just say he doesn't want to play with the other guys right now, or that it doesn't generate enough money, or it's logistically too much of a pain the ass to continue, etc. Yes, he did explain in his piece last year that he wants to play smaller markets, but that, even if we take it on face value, doesn't explain the total abandonment for now of any reunion shows.

The continued explanation that the reunion tour was some sort of vacuum in time and space where they were only allowed one extension of the original agreement is just bizarre. Just as they chose in 2011 (or earlier?) to put the reunion together in 2012, they could do the same now. If he doesn't want to do that, it would be nice to hear truly why that is. This weird reflexive statement that "the tour ended because it ended" is silly.

I'll PM you Justin and tell you if you like? I'm not going to hang up some of Mike's dirty laundry on this board.

He did say previously that he didn't want to 'oversaturate' the market for reunited band shows and that it would be more special if there was a break. We all know there's more to it, but that's good enough for the public.

They all have dirty laundry.. Get over it

As always, you speak of what you have no knowledge of.  You threw F bombs for AGD getting banned for his opinions when it had nothing to do with "opinions".

I'd suggest, since you find my posts so upsetting, to:

1. Not read them
2. Avert your eyes when you first read the word O r e g o n
3. Read things that sooth your soul, like the MikeLoveFanClub.com or Mike's Facebook page, Twitter feed or Mike's two web sites.
4.Not read any threads that my have negative views of Mike Love.  They seem to upset you so!

Umm 'Pamela Jean' by 'The Survivors' done really well without The Beach Boys name , did it not ?????

It's hard to muster the energy to reply to this thread because we've discussed it ad nauseam

I'm sure Mike has the best intentions but he's cursed with innate ability to say the wrong thing at the wrong time. Just listen to his between song banter today and in the 60's, truly awful.

Mike seems to have the majority of this board on his side in relation to how the C50 tour ended (I'll never understand why!) but he's not changing the masses. It's not just us who are aware of his antics, he's generally hated all over the web, you can't view one Beach Boys youtube video without seeing many, many anti-Mike comments. He had a good chance to end the C50 tour with the same means he lives his life, ya know with "peace" and "harmony" but no, the booking of M&B dates during the C50 was one of the craziest and selfish moves I've ever witnessed, anybody with a brain would do the reunion tour and end it organically with input from everybody. I think it was two or three weeks into the C50 tour when we first noticed the M&B dates popping up.

It's good to hear he's open to more stuff in the future but I don't see a point, the guys can't co-exist anymore, too much mud has been thrown.

OK, it's a theory that you're sharing, but don't agree in the least. Without mYke Luhv, we would most likely have heard even more from Brian for a more expanded amount of time. mYke Luhv helped to whittle away Brian's fragile confidence level by wanting more sun, surf and beach themes.

But "Surf City" did.  When I look at those early Beach Boys TV appearances, I imagine the band singing with no Al, or no Mike, and I think the songs would have been big hits anyway.  But gotta give Mike his due, he was a major part of the band. Lyrics, voice, his place in the harmony.  I don't see him as much as a great showman/frontman early in their career.

'Surf City' was released by Jan and Dean, though, who were already kind of established, And without Mike, who was going to write the lyrics for the early BB songs? And more importantly, who would fill his spot in the vocal blend? Those stack harmonies were so crucial to the band's success...everybody was needed. Best harmonic blend of all time. It's why the C50 was so great (even minus Carl) but Brian's shows although good, are missing that low end. It added something magical. Take anyone away from the harmonic stack in the 'classic' period, and the sound would have suffered...and it is extremely likely they wouldn't have had the same success.

Your a little odd aren't you. Thanks for your aggresive PM by the way!
1. Passive aggresive crap, this is a message board where people post comments why would I come here and not read them!
2. I would prefer AGD's input over yours!
 3.I respect Mike and his input, but as a person he "appears" to make a few errors of judgement (they all have!!)
4. It has nothing to do with Mike it has more to do with your passive aggresive nature, condescending tone and ridiculous PM you sent. You upset me and others.

It would have been different, that's for sure.  But I think Brian would have been quite successful in the music biz and Mike not.  But they were a super group because of what they all brought to the table.

No, he just needs a good "frontman". :p

Gosh, I hate upsetting you.  You failed to heed my advice and now you are upset again.

My advice. follow these tips for a more tranquil Smiley Smile Experience. You take this stuff way too personally.

1. Not read OregonRiverRider's Mike Love posts
2. Avert your eyes when you first see the word O r e g o n
3. Read things that sooth your soul, like the MikeLoveFanClub.com or Mike's Facebook page, Twitter feed or Mike's two web sites.
4. Not read any threads that may contain negative views of Mike Love.  They obviously upset you.

Didn't Jan write the lyrics for "Surf City".  Jan might have been a great front man for the Beach Boys.  Course it's all speculation as Mike filled the role superbly, no denying that!

If people have an already stated opinion of Mike why must they continue to state said opinion in a variety of threads and or topics. I am not fond of some of Mike's actions but, I do not feel it is necessary to ram my opinion of Mike down someone elses throat.

So what you're saying is absolutely no one could have sung bass notes in the 60's and 70's. That's a rather limited, indeed narrow approach. No one is indispensable-not even Saint mYkuhl. As far as stacking harmonies, Brian has, thank you very much, done quite well with out the mYkster.

Cool, I most strongly support your right to state your opinion!  And I feel strongly about my right to state mine.  I don't appreciate being "judged" for stating my opinion.
This thread is about Mike's latest interview.  I have expressed my opinions on his statements and will continue to do so in this thread.

True/ "Pet Sounds" was considered as a solo album at one point, if I recall correctly.

No, just that it wouldn't have sounded the same. The group was just magic together.Everybody was crucial to that blend. Talking about the 60s blend, of course.

Everything Mike did Jan did much better, IMO. Plus Jan had looks and sex appeal while Mike was a balding dork. Jan was on Brian's level musically as well.

He's done quite well how? When? It's never been Brian Wilson Of The Beach Boys doing Beach Boys songs, I'm sure.... Right?

Like it or not: Mike is an exact 50% of The Beach Boys formula for success.... The Beach Boys sound was established as Mike's nasal, punkish and unique leads and Brian's emotional falsetto and leads. All the rest was/is gravy..... They never really deviated from this formula aside from others stepping in for Brian.... Maybe with Smile, but the harmony stack was still there and essential.... Top it off with Mike being the front-man and writing oceans of the band's lyrics: you can slam the guy all you want as a person, but to sit here and imagine a universe where Brian achieved everything all by himself with no one's help of any consequence is pure fantasy.

Jan And Dean were not the Beach Boys, BTW..... Not even close. Looks don't really account for a damn thing in rock n roll anyway..... Dave Evans was better looking than Bon Scott too, blah blah

They all needed each other. The way Brian arranged their voices was incredible. The familial blend plus Al and later Bruce? Nobody can top those five/ six voices in the studio.

Haven't you already? You are assassinating his character without putting up any evidence. Just say what it is you are claiming.

Oh,just a couple of things, you know, like BW88, Imagination, BWPS, OCA, LOS, BWRG, That's all. And didn't miss the throat twiddelings of Monsignor Luhv in any one of those outings, lyKe it ohr Knot. Didn't you mean nazal pukish bleatings?

OK, then go listen to those albums and join the bloo board or or something..... Why hang around on a BEACH BOYS message board if you're such a fan of Brian Wilson-the-solo-artist an all he's achieved that has nothing to do with the Beach Boys?

Then have me banned for not agreeing with you. 50% huh? No, you need to plant your self over on the mYke Luhv fan club message board. All three of them over there will luhv your act.

Sorry (with all due respect) I really really don't agree with that

I thought it was just Bruce over there ;p

Tut Tut , you forgot his neighbor Ophra Winfrey  :lol

I always felt comfortable discussing Brian and his solo work here. And since I never post on Brian's board and very seldom read it, this bored is by default the one for me to discuss The Beach Boys and its individual members' solo works and lives.

I think what you are suggesting is in a round about way the same thing I was suggesting.  Brian likely would've found success without the others but we wouldn't be talking about him today because he wouldn't have a message board devoted to him.  Being a "Beach Boy" has brought Brian to levels that few musicians have ever reached and add to that the "genius" factor that has circled around his head ever since Derek Taylor weaved his magic words and we basically have a living legend.  But without the rest of the band I would put Brian Wilson's chance of being a rock star almost at nil and it has nothing to do with the man's talent but the circumstances surrounding the industry at the time he was coming up.  The charts were basically dictated by teenage girls who loved to scream for their idols and while I won't deny Brian likely had his fair share of female admirers he was neither witty like John Lennon or flat out charming like Paul McCartney where he would've be able to strike out on his own and dominate the charts without the rest of the boys.

Which brings me to your point about Mike not being a great frontman in the early days.  Before she passed away several years ago, I had the opportunity to ask my mother if Mike Love's antics were as corny firsthand in the sixties as they appear to be in retrospect.  She said that nobody took any of that seriously but ate it up with a fork and spoon anyhow because it was so different at the time from what more straight acts were doing.  I believe The Beatles used to call it "Mach Shau" and to that end Mike Love was really great at the "Mach Shau" which touching back on what my mother said was all that was really required back then of a frontman.  

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Did I miss the interesting part?  ;D

We were talking about the Beach Boys's blend, though. When I mentioned Brian's solo band, I was referring to the one weak spot...the lack of a good bass vocalist. Not Mike, though...his voice wouldn't fit in. But for the Beach Boys' harmonic blend, he IS needed. They all were. Take one out, the blend suffered. Look at how thin the live harmonies got when Brian quit the live band! Although it eventually improved, it was never quite the same without him.

Understood, agreed with and respected. I was just having a go at OSD for old times sake ;)

Jan was just as good a bass singer and lyricist as Mike, he was funnier than Mike, he was much better as musical arranger and producer than Mike, and he was more appealing-Mike is off-putting, IMO and not as good a frontman as people think he is. I do think Mike was better as a nasal singer, Jan's voice was somewhat grating at times while Mike's voice was grating and smooth at the same time, strange as that sounds. Mike is by far the best nasal singer I've ever heard. But if somehow the BB were formed with Jan instead of Mike I think they would have been bigger and better than they were. Jan could have been the John to Brian's Paul...but whose to say Brian would have wanted another person on his level in the band taking control from him.

But when I say Jan is better than Mike I mostly mean it because I think that much of Jan, not because I dislike Mike all that much. Musically I think Mike is great at what he does, but as a person and as a frontman I find him irritating and he has zero sex appeal, negative sex appeal to be honest. And that has and always will matter. Mick Jagger (the best frontman of all time, IMO) still has it even at his age. He still comes off as a hip rock star. Mike comes off as an old fart.

Yeah it's really a shame that The Beach Boys career went nowhere with such a crappy, ugly frontman....

He was 'better' but may not have fit in the blend as well. The sound was made by the family blend, plus Al (and later Bruce). Music's not like a fantasy baseball team. It's about the sum of all parts being greater than the individual. It's why you can take four individually mediocre players and have it sound good, yet most supergroups fail.  Just looking at it from a lyrical standpoint...sure, Mike's lyrics were often corny. But, can you really imagine the early songs without them? They fit the music perfectly. And again, we're talking about the 60s here. Would you want Van Dyke Parks lyrics on 'Aren't You Glad?' Of course not. As far as the sex appeal goes...nobody looks to the Beach Boys for that. Except Dennis, that was never their thing. As far as Mike being a dork, well, that WAS their thing. With the exception of the Pet Sounds/Smile era, the Beach Boys weren't cool, at least not in the traditional sense. They were this kind of 'dorky cool', which is dorky but still cool. Not square, like the Carpenters. They were Weezer before Weezer.

Mike just posted this on his facebook page:

We are having a wonderful time here in Tokyo and the fans here in Asia are amazing and I want to thank them for all the love they have showed us. But I wanted to take a moment to clarify something I said in the Montgomery News piece that ran this week. I misspoke when I referred to the 'Hate Mike Love' material on Al Jardine's Website. I am still learning the difference in terminology between F...acebook, Twitter, websites, and the like. Social media is a new creature to me, as it is to many of us, and I did not make the proper distinction between the mediums. Al and I have enjoyed our shared interest in Transcendental Meditation over the years and have valued its focus on positivity. Al and I have been in communication and agree that we both want all of our social media outlets and web based outlets to reflect that positivity. The spirit of the music we created over these decades has always reflected that spirit of positivity and harmony. We hope all our Beach Boys brethren and fans and all those affected by our music share that feeling, and will allow that feeling to influence your words and actions. Negativity is never fun, fun, fun and has nothing to do with Good Vibrations.

Peace and Love,
Mike Love

Yeah, Craig, somebody posted that above a couple of hours ago.  :)

I loved Jan Berry. But I'll go out on a limb here and say that, even with that nasal twine of his, Mike Love was/is a better singer than Jan Berry. To me, Berry sounded flat on a lot of those records. Again Berry was a great (underated) writer and producer and arranger, but not the best singer in my opinion. I'm talking about his tenor voice. His bass voice was a little better. Again, just my opinion.

Also. Around the mid 70's, I watched Mike Love on stage and use to think he got a lot of his flashy moves and dancing and prancing back and forth around the stage from Mick Jagger. Jagger personified that stage presence, and I think Mike copied it to a T.

I met Jan in 1979.  We both ended up in the Motown Records building elevator.  He was super, super nice!  He is missed

I think mike copped Jagger vocally in the 70s too. Didn't always work but it's obvious on songs like Rock & Roll Music (especially the way he pronounced words like 'hurricane').

You are right about how Mike fit, that's not just something anyone can do. And I do think Jan sounded flat at times...and yes, they had amazing success with Mike and less success after he stopped singing as much on their singles...all of that is true, but at the same time I still think overall Jan Berry was a much better singer and musician.

Anyway, it's all pretty irrelevant since it's just another case of Beach Boys theoreticals, or as I like to call it, the "what if?" game.

Oh yeah...no doubt. Just pointing out that better is not always better!

That sounds so zen...

Jan was brilliant in many ways, but no way could he sing Mike's bass harmonies. Jan had a fun voice but it wasn't as strong as Mike's.

I think part of the charm of the Beach Boys is the fact that they never had the ideal heartthrob worthy looks (except for Dennis) but then they'd open up their mouths and the audience would think "HOLY SHIT THESE GUYS ARE AMAZING."  Being good looking was never an essential part of being a Beach Boy.

And Mike was most definitely in the Jagger mode 40 years ago (summer '72 thru most of '73) when he would throw off his shirt and prance around the stage closing BB shows with Jumpin' Jack Flash.


You got that right, Mikie!  Did you ever see him perform Jumpin Jack Flash?  I've always loved that song by the Stones, but it seemed really odd to me to close a Beach Boys show with a song made famous by another group.

Yes. Dish the dirt already! You make a vague reference to it in every other post, so just come out and say it.

"Vague references" are tantamount to the libel anyway so let's hear it! ;D

I dunno...Al had this sexy David Spade vibe in 1969.



Yes, I'm joking.

Hmm interesting discussion.  From a female point of view, no the BB's are not sexy in the least, but that's not so bad, what I think what they lacked is charisma.  Apart from Dennis (who was stuck at the back)  they were all pretty shy guys.  Mike is not shy also, but he's not charismatic, he's corny as hell and always has been.  Back in the 60's that was fine.  Not so afterwards.  Dennis would have been better out the front after the 60's, he has more genuine love for the audience, wasn't so sarcastic and waffling and well... he just mooooved better.   

I know Mike has kept the band and name going for decades and he's a hard working guy and all that, but sometimes I just cringe at the things he says and does and the whole blasted 80's Baywatch crap. 

IMO of course..

Curiously I think that most audiences who watch the shows seem to like Mike's corniness. They laugh at the old, 'we'll now take an intermission...followed by a nap' lines and the like. Obviously everybody on the board has heard them a hundred times but they still seem to work for the masses strangely.

Good grief...I've only just come across this.

Though Mike Love is far from innocent down the years but I can see his point on the C50 thing. There was an agreement and while a lot of people, including possibly Brian, Al and Dave decided in the end that they wanted to continue....Mike stuck to the original agreement. Mike can be a total arse at times but he wasn't in this case.

So he committed the big sin of saying "web page" when he meant facebook. He probably hasn't looked at either and is relying on info he's been given.

Yes, he's cheesy on stage but it's not offensive. I quite liked some of his patter last year, having experienced it first hand for the first time. Mike *is* an energetic front man and does inject some fun into things.

I'm not a convert. Mike has done very reprehensible things in the past. But I think he may be right on this one.

You people that want to carry on about Mike Love until the end of time really are mentally disturbed. Always looking for a reason to jump on any and every little thing the guy SAYS. If you have that much free time why don't you all go volunteer your time doing something constructive.

The Beach Boys were a great band. My all time favorite hands down. Brian was the Genius behind the band and Mike was a huge part of the band as well, LIKE IT OR NOT. Most Beach Boys fans never thought we would see the surviving members hit the road together again and release a new album but they did and it was great. Less than a year later all we get from the I HATE MIKE crowd is more and more of the same crap over and over. I was elated to have been given the chance to see them together one more time last summer. I do not need nor did I or any reasonable person expect to see them 5 more times or be out there at age 82. Both Brian and Mike and anyone else involved have always done some odd things and made some poor choices and if they continue to do so SO FREAKIN' WHAT!  We are already left with dozens of brilliant songs that we will listen to until we are all gone. With the anti-Mike crowd it's not about the music, legacy or anything else...it's about bitching about the guy for sake of bitching about the guy.

Take joy in the fact that the BOYS are OLD MEN now and sooner than later Mike will be with Dennis and Carl......maybe that will finally shut you up.....but I doubt it.

I'm not anti-Mike AT ALL.  I was thrilled to see him with the others last year. I just think he says and does some questionable things, so what?  I would have also preferred that the band split into two bands in the 70's and that the Wilson's at THAT point would have been better off, but who knows?

I totally agree and after seeing some of the audience's faces when Brian asked them to hold up lighters or do Row Your Boat Ashore, hearing lines like that from Mike are a lot less uncomfortable!
Although hearing everyone sing God Only Knows back at Brian at one of the PS shows (I think) more than made up for it.

I'm thinking that without the balance of Mike, Al, and Bruce, the Wilsons would crashed and burned harder and more definitively than they did.

Then we could have had two crappy bands instead of just one.  :-D

I'm not being serious but I don't think that would have worked.

The problems that the Wilsons had went way beyond what was happening in the group.

And it's said that Al voted with Mike not because he agreed with him particularly but more because the Wilsons were so out of it that he felt he didn't have a choice.

How anyone can say Brian wasn't sexy is beyond me. I'm a guy and I can appreciate how handsome he was.

One of Brian's sexiest moments
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=BkkWOqI4lb4#t=182s

I think all the Beach Boys (yes, even Mike) were/are handsome guys. Dennis was the hottest, Brian was next, Carl got very handsome in the 70's, Al was Al and Mike was good looking and in very good shape for a long long time. I actually think Dave was the most handsome next to Dennis, but it's a toss up between him and young Brian..... But yes, they were ALL shy other than Mike... Dennis too. He slouched weirdly when he would be up front. I think if he hadn't been so drunk often, he would have came off even more shy..... But like he said: the music is the superstar of the group. They didn't need a hot charismatic fontman. What Mike did was great because he was confident and energetic, but still a dork from the Beach Boys

Al was Al.... :lol :lol :lol

Oops! And I forgot Bruce!

Bruce looks like he was genetically engineered from each Beach Boy's DNA to be a Beach Boy, so he doesn't really count.

Bruce looked like a Kennedy in in his younger days.

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Thanks ORR!

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Bruce is no Jack Kennedy!

William Kennedy Smith then??

Yeah, Kinda.  Man, whatever happened to him after the trial - did he fall off the Earth?

Strangely Bruce looks exactly like a Kennedy from the front (especially Ted Kennedy) but like Jimmy Cagney from the side.

Well he is adopted and we all know the stories about Joe. ;)

Summer days on ol Cape Cod indeed.

We may be on to something here! :o

I don't know how many Kennedy family get-togethers Bruce would be invited to knowing what we do about his politics....

Remember bloods thicker than water, can choose your friends...not your family and all!

I gotta say, OSD, that at that little-frequented Official Fan Club board, there are more than a few posts about the man that are so acid and sulphurous in describing him that they might almost bring a blush to your cheek - emphasis on almost, of course.

If that were the reason we would all be Brianista. Of course Brian was the force behind the group and is much more talented musically than Mike. Mike himself acknowledges this and praises Brian all the time. What makes a Brianista is that strange disgust and deep hatred against Mike that seems to me, honestly, a bit insane. I agree Mike's decisions are often not the best ones and he has absolutely no understanding for Brian's problems. But I just can't understand the fun in hating Mike so deeply.


Absolutely.

My mother thinks Brian is the cutest! ;D

IMHO, Awldsyrferdood comes across a bit chyldish.

Back in the day, those " garage band" guys all became "sexy" when they stepped onstage.  Not just the Boys, but all these bands, had guys who might have been considered average looking, became sex symbols, such as Mick Jagger, who became just the hottest guy alive, when he got onstage. His singing and swagger made him attractive.  And, that might be a sixties or seventies standard, but being a member of a "rock and roll" band conferred a certain appeal and attractiveness to the "contemporary" ladies. 

A certain "dynamic" emerged and standard of what was sexy, and being in a rock band, and having your band in those TeenBeat type magazines, with posters in the centerfold, made them sexy via public relations and print media promotion.  The Beatles haircuts and long hair on men, were suddenly the rage, much to the chagrin of parents who marched their boys to the barber shops for a "boys' regular."

People can argue the Baywatch or Full House thing either way, but most people in media will agree that these cameo appearances, only enhance the name value or brand value of an entity.  And, are never a bad move to gain media exposure.  They might look tacky now, to some, but fit nicely into the genre of the time, and I find it hugely unfair to judge 1980's - 90's stuff with a 2013 lens which tends, generally to be revisionist.  JMHO  ;)

I think there was also a Brianista variant that simply wanted to take him home, bake him cakes, tuck him in at night and cuddle him. And not let him out in daylight cos of what those nasty Beach Boys might do to him. They knew what was right for him and it needn't involve anyone else.

Dangerous people.

I'm scared now, thanks. :o

But you made me laugh with this:


:-D

Couldn't agree more. Of course, one or two people on the board have had bad experiences with Mike, and it's fair enough when they dislike him -- though even then with some it tends towards monomania. But most of us have either never met him or spent a couple of minutes with him after a show getting an autograph.

Honestly, even if every single bad thing ever said about Mike were true (and for all I know it is), he's caused very little actual harm in his life -- he's behaved badly towards a lot of people in his family, most of whom seem to have, mostly, forgiven him, and that's really about all that can be said about him (and that's if everything bad said about him is true).

Personally, I try not to hate anyone, but to the extent that I *do* hate people, it's because they have hurt me or those I love, or they've started wars or committed genocide or mass murder or something. Even recording Looking Back With Love doesn't really fall into that category.

For all I know he may well be a horrible man. I suspect he's not as bad as many say, but he may well be. But so what? There are seven billion people in the world, and I'd guess that at least half a billion or so of them are horrible people.

At least all sides can come together and be grateful that at the very least, Mike Love has never carried out genocide.

...and when we say never, we do mean a certain amount.

And he looks like Jimmy Durante from the back!  hot cha cha cha cha!

 :lol

Is there such a thing as an "Alanista"?

 :hat

It's nothing but a message board. Grohw Uhp, mahn. :p

IMHO, Awldsyrferdood comes across a bit chyldish.

+1 

  Only +1?? What a cheapskate!!

 :lol

 ::)

What's a thread without Gertie's smiley face contributions

 :lol

do you envy me?  :police:

Not really you, but your posting style. You always choose the right smiley  :smokin

See, I chose the wrong one there

Well you may be right about the 60's and such but I am not looking through a 2013 lens at the 80's and 90's BB stuff.  I remember what I thought at the time.  I cringed at the Baywatch stuff.  It was odious to me.  I couldn't stand Full House, I thought it was a corny, fake, badly acted show.  The only people I know who watched it were older mums with their kids and possibly nanas.  I'm sorry but I think that when Mike took control things got corny.  Mind you the 80's and 90's were generally a little corny and embarrassing and I have a few photos from that time I'd never post on FB that's for sure!   

Ah well it doesn't matter really,  It doesn't change the way I feel about the music :)

I agree that those shows were corny but I'm not sure the group were capable of being anything other than corny at that stage. I imagine Mike's attitude at the time was, 'Brian isn't going to write us a hit anytime soon so what can we do to keep the band in the public eye?' If they'd been offered the chance to appear on the coolest shows of the time then I'm sure they would have accepted but as it was they took what they could get. That goes for the duets and movie soundtracks too.

I agree with you, Nicko.


That said, I hate hate hate hate HATED Full House. Actually, I hated the entire Friday night ABC lineup, save Perfect Strangers. Dave Coulier's character annoyed me so much that I wanted to strangle him with a thing of Twizzlers. There was a worse show that came on right afterwards (or was it the following one? I don't remember). All I remember is some annoying kid with glasses, and the neighbor who looked like she belonged in a stream swatting fish rather than being on TV,

I hope there's news very soon!  We're discussing bloody Full House now!   :(

Hey, we could be talking about Brian playing 'Mr Hawthorne' on The New Leave it to Beaver! :lol

One of the funniest blogs on the web...this guy is in the process of reviewing every episode of Full House in chronological order. Hilarious:

http://www.fullhousereviewed.com/

I had a quick read.  Funny stuff :)   This is part of what he had to say about the Full House Beach Boys epidode:

"The Beach Boys were one of the most innovative and influential singing groups of their time but they really seem to be more remembered for their corny radio hits than the experimental psychedelic rock masterpieces they created in their heyday.  I’ve always wondered why that is, but now I know.  This episode of Full House single-handedly ruined the Beach Boys for an entire generation".

Nailed it.



 :-\

Now that was even cornier than Full House!

I see nothing wrong with anything Mike said in this article.  I dont' know what it is about Beach Boys fans that gives them such a thin skin.  Here, for the emotionally challenged, I'll give you a emotionally balanced summary of the article.


 - Mike says he had a good time touring with Brian

 - Mike says he likes all the band members, also compliments John Lennon and Paul McCartney

 - Mike says he'd be interested in working with Brian in the future

 - Mike says he loves the fans and loves playing for them

 - Mike says you shouldn't disparage one member of your favorite band if you like another member better

 - Mike says negative people should get a life


What's the problem?  Who doesn't agree with any of that, I thought that was all fairly Jesus-like of Mike.  IF ITS KEWL WITH JESUS IT'S KEWL WITH ME.

Full House appears to have been loosely based on Three Men and a Baby, 1987, the biggest box office hit of that year,  which was based on the French film from 1985, Trois Hommes et un Couffin (Three Men and a Cradle.) All three challenged the stereotype of a male caregiver successfully raising children.  It helped to break a barrier that men could not nurture children as well as women, not as a substitute, but as the primary caregiver.  
 
In an era of emerging violent TV, Full House was a program which children could observe the role model of a male in the primary parenting role.  A cameo of the Band, could neither have made, nor, broken their career.  Brian is in one of the shows.  But, it gave them, and continues to give them, via global syndication, exposure.  

People seem to overlook that all the 60's stallwarts were pretty much sucking balls in the late 80's/early 90's. The Beach Boys were hardly unique in this.

Very true. Hell, just look at the band formerly known as Jefferson Airplane. They may have built this city on rock and roll, but that lame ass song nearly tore it the f*** down.

 :lol

And don't forget, there are many here, including mYke that believes he can not only levitate but walk on water as well. ::)

I've been away for a while, so in reading this thread I see AGD has been banned. What pray tell brought that on? Maybe he called someone a racist like he did me a few years ago when I was critical of BHO.

Temporarily suspended for posting  pm. He'll be back in a few days

Is there something wrong with asking to discuss a matter via personal message/email?

Thanks.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,122.0.html

No...posting the CONTENTS of a pm.

Thanks! 

No worries!

True that. And if you thought Full House was bad, at least The Beach Boys never performed on the Star Wars Holiday Special...

It may have broken the 3rd seal and ushered in Kokomo a few years early!

:lol

I already have. Your turn now. ;D

IYOO you have. :lol

Just be glad the BB's never recorded a Full House album! I can imagine Mike's lyrics to such tunes as "How Rude!" "You Got it Dude!" "You're in Big Trouble, Mister!" And of course they'd have to include cameos from Comet the dog and Kimmy Gibbler. And the music video would've had a lot of footage of Lori Loughlin in a bikini.

I just threw up in my mouth

To go from White Rabbit to that unmentionable atrocity against music is just mind boggling. How? Why? It's just not right.

No Jorma, no Jack, no Paul, no Marty. Only Grace post rehab.

White Rabbit isn't even really a Jefferson Airplane song, it belonged to Grace Slick's old band, the Great Society (along with Somebody to Love).

I do feel better knowing that. The world is right again

IYOO?

Didn't the Beach Boys play in Kokomo last year while in Florida?

 >:D

I'll leave you guessing, mYkuh. :p

another ML interview where he shares some interesting info:

Though he had some reservations, Love says he did enjoy working with Wilson during the tour last year.
 
"If it was just Brian, it would be great," he says, "but it's not just Brian. That's all I care to say about that."
And, again with some reservations, he says he was happy with the music and the presentation of the Beach Boys' catalog of songs.
 
"I think there were too many guitarists and too many voices competing for parts for my taste, but it was a good experience musically," he says. "Brian has a good band and there were some good musicians there. We had a good time."
 
Asked about the possibility of working with Wilson in the future, Love says, "I'm not negative on it but there are no plans at this moment in time to do anything more. But Ian Fleming taught us to 'never say never.

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I WAS CHEATED!!!!!! ::) :lol :o :lol ::) :lol

I don't doubt that some of Brian's "handlers" can be taxing on the nervous system. Unfortunately, Brian has always had someone like that around...once upon a time, it was daddy; later it was Landy. And these days.....

I wonder if the comment about "It's not just Brian" has less to do with Melinda than it does The Amazing Jardine.

Maybe it was someone or some of the band Brian insisted on.

It's not Melinda?