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Let's leave all talk of his personal life out of this

So, I came across "My World" and "Invisible Tears". I must say that i'm amazed and knocked off my feet by the performances and just the songs in general. These two songs are terrific.

"I awake every evening and somehow stumble through the night....."

I've only got a clip of this song, it ends on that line.

Who else can overlook the weird stuff and realize this music?

I've got to find more music if it's all of this greatness.

Get the Lie album. One of the finest psych-folk LP's ever recorded.
I haven't heard a song of his I don't like yet.

Garbage dump, oh garbage dump... why do they call you a garbage dump?  ;D

"Invisible tears in my eyes,
Incredible pain in my heart,
Indestructible memories all in review.
Impossible though things may get,
Improbable I will forget,
Indelible memories
Incomparable memories
Indispensible memories of sweet, loveable you".

A part of me wishes he and Brian Wilson had teamed up to make some groovy little songs like "Busy Doin' Nothin'". But instead of Brian's fun words, these great love song words.

I don't see this thread going very far, some people can't see past his "actions".

Sure, I like Manson's music.

Maybe I'll do an essay, then.

Would "Never Learn Not To Love" be worthy of inclusion here?  Great song.

Absolutely. And Charles also wrote the words for Be With Me.

Really?  Double cool, if confirmed!

I would love to hear the recordings that Brian and Carl produced for Charlie (according to AGD, since he's all about citing sources). Those would probably be "interesting".

My first Manson wrote listen a very beutifull song sung by one Willium Axl Rose . A song called look at your game girl. Axl in fact became completley obsessed with manson. He wore a shirt very often with various masnon themed frazes, ie charlie dont surf!

Fair enough, he was very fkd up.

But, he did have a very eatherel sence of song. A song that only, in my mind, has no fear. He, and in every sence of the word had balls. His was a world of confusion, but his lyrics speak out to me.

Bottom line though, FUM HIM THE MOURDOROUS BASTARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Praise him and you are as bad as I am!

Im in no way religious, infact I hate the whole god fad. But I still feel like Ive sined for praising MANSON.



Cheers


Barry










PS     http://www.soundclick.com/bands/pagemusic.cfm?bandID=424310

um...

Okay..this thread has started something strange, don't cha think?

Jesus fucking Christ, man!

I haven't heard Manson, but it doesn't surprise me to hear you guys saying he's good. In all these years plenty of people have commented on it, but I've never heard anybody say a bad word about his music; apparently the guy had very genuine talent. In a much lesser sense, Ike Turner has a similar stigma, the world at large knows him (not inaccurately) as a notorious wife beating drug addict, but music fans also recognize him as one of the greatest talents R&B has ever known. And now Spector too takes his place in that bizarre no man's land between angel and monster. Guess there's a fine line between genius and madness, as they say.

HAHA! My reaction exactly.

Who said that?  No sarcasm, just, seriously --- who said that???

I remember now!  Wilson, quoting Lucius Annaeus Seneca, from an episode of "Home Improvement".  Answered my own question.

Wait till you hear the song "My World", it floats along so well. His voice rides above the guitar playing (which is also very good) perfectly.

Post it here, please. Use yousendit.

I will, though, I need to find out how to use that thing. Keep checking back here people i'll get those two songs posted. They're well worth it.

All you do is put your own email in the send-it-to, then browse, attach your files, then copy the link when it comes on and copy it here.

http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1D7QUS3WTGMFG3FVZP1IPPSCEA

- My World

http://s48.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2WMSNNUK8WZWP2YOF65EMNQ9FD

- Invisible Tears

Thanks Ian, I hope these work okay.

Perfectly!

Charlie's cheesier than I would have expected. Now stinking up a hotel bar near you...

I think they're really great songs. I love his voice and chords.

There's a fine line with this music between "cheesy" and "beautiful". I'd go for the second.

Yeah. He obviously knew his sh*t with music. No wonder Dennis Wilson was so drawn to him. This music could woo anybody over...

Perhaps i'm heading down a wrong path with this.... eh

Gig Young murdered his wife. Don't mean his performance in They Shoot Horses Don't They was not great.
Jim Gordon murdered his mother. Doesn't mean his performances on BB records and his brilliant piano section of Layla aren't great.

Gee, a Manson thread starting something strange...? Whoda thunk?

I like the sinister laugh at the end of invisible tears. Creepsville, man.  Why is 'My World' cut off??
I've heard his Cease To Exist, but I don't have any of his stuff... Please post more H&V/ Ian!   

Is it true that he also wrote "Be With Me"?

Didn't we just arrive at that juncture earlier in this thread? Read, read, read! And learn. :)

I've only just come across these songs myself actually. I was hoping this thread would encourage whoever has more songs to post them. My copy of "My World" cuts off too, shame because it's a real nice song.

I don't find the laughing at the end of Invisible Tears creepy. It is what you make of it. If you can listen to "Roller Skating Child" without being creeped out then these two songs are easy. There's nothing seemingly sinister or strange about these songs

In retrospect, it's just the events that transpired make this creepy... I can hear some PC individuals saying- "There's nothing funny about Charles Manson laughing."

I saw this wicked wild interview with him in the early 80's. I realized why people were captivated by his persona. I was very drawn to the interview and completely fascinated. I actually wanted to see more after that. I wasn't drawn in the same fashion as the people he brainwashed, but rather saw something in the manner that Denny did. Good or bad... undeniably an interesting character.

So I had the two songs on last night on repeat. My Step-Mom walks in curious as to who it is. She obviously was enjoying the songs but I wouldn't tell her who it was.

I finally gave in and told her that Charles Manson wrote and performed these. Her face dropped, and she said in the most dead pan way "Charles Manson was a serial killer....how can you listen to his music?". I didn't feel like telling her that her facts were very innaccurate. I didn't want to be known as a Manson enthusiast or somethiing.

Doesn't that say it all?
She's diggin' the tunes, then she just CAN'T!
What bullshite.

Oh yeah, sorry, didn't see that. Did he just write the words, or did he write the music as well?

The words only.

Tell the dumb broad that Manson never murdered anyone. You don't want to be known as a Manson enthusiast? You wouldn't exactly be alone if you claimed to be a Manson enthusiast. Remember Ian's words - why feel guilty for listening to music? If it's good, you like it. Big deal. So what if he influenced a slew of murders in 1969 (before everyone jumps on me, Manson didn't kill anyone, I think the real sin is on the members of the Family)? That's like saying you don't want to listen to Brian Wilson's music because he's a cokehead who cheated on his wife and caused all kinds of pain to people around him. It's music for Christ's sake.

I get similar merda for listening to Suicide. People think it's a mockery of the very real issue of suicide.

Dad - "Hey, who does Steve look like now with his beard?"

Step Mom - "Who?"

Dad - " Me from the 70's when I grew mine at his age. That or...Charles Manson".

S. Mom - "He was listening to Charles Manson's music yesterday...*stupid grin*"

Dad - " He made music?"

Steve - "Music is music, and his in this case is very good music. "

Both - "But he was a mass murderer"

Steve - "How can you have lived through the times and his well publicized trial and not know the simple fact?"

Both - ""umm...Did you live through it?"

Steve - *sigh*

LOL!

Excellent dialogue.

She also called his music corny.

She listens to Irish Folk music.

But, that said, keep in mind and so we must remember,  because if you despite the fact that

Does anybody know what year "My World" and "Invisible Tears" are from?

It's next to impossible to find information on his music and i've found nothing on these two songs.

Maybe it's because i'm too sheltered musically, but those two songs are some of the finest i've ever heard.

MANSON'S ADDRESS:
Charles Manson, B-33920
4A 3R 14L
P. O. Box 3476
Corcoran, CA 93212

Tell him!

That's alright.

While I do think the lonely old man should get a "pick me up" every now and again, i'd be too worried about a group of his followers showing up at my doorway.

We all need a penpal!  ;D


Me and my friends are very polite! If you're nice, we'll only kill your dog.

I recall coming across his address in junior high and wanting to write him as a part of an assignment we had to write someone famous, a company, etc., to see if we could get a response. (Practice at letter-writing, I guess it was.) I mentioned my interest in that to my parents.

End of story.

We did that too a few years back. You picked Charles Manson....I picked my 6th grade English teacher.

 :D

I think I ended up writing to some company and asking for free stuff.

No recollection as to whether it worked.

Write ol' Chuck and ask him about swastika carving techniques!

No, thanks, I think I'm over my Manson-curiosity phase.

No need, that's next week on Martha Stewart's show.

HA! And her sh*t-on-a-shingle recipe she stole while behind bars.

Well silly old me got a bad copy of My World with it cutting out. I've since found a full version for those who are interested.


http://s64.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1DCD7O6XRO78S22ZFM69ENG0BJ

i dont think i saw it mentioned...
look at your game girl is a great song by your boy chuck

"Chuck do I look like a chuck too you?"

 I must say  I am really diggin his voice  he  is lovely just lovely.... Anybody else hear my world and thought it could have been a Frank Sinatra tune?

Fum you too, Luther.

Man, I wish I would have been around back in 2005 for this.  ;D

"Let's hear it for frankie...frankie frankie".

Jay, thank you for reviving this thread. Luther's former sig finally makes sense!

200fuckin5, man. Wow.

I feel like I've sined for praising Manson. Total sine wave. I do love how that dude went off on a tangent.

Look At Your Game Girl is a really good song.
























Ok, I will now go take a shower, and cleanse myself in Holy Water.