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Title: Beach Boys "Oh Darlin" Vs. Beatles "Oh! Darling"
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 09:21:42 AM
Which one do you prefer? :) I'm a huge fan of both groups but i'mma have to go with the beatles on this one, it just captures that early rock and roll feel :D mixed in with a little doo-wop.

Beach Boys - Oh Darlin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXUKhZMt-ns

Beatles - Oh! Darling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLnVOyhqSi8


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Jason on January 22, 2012, 09:33:41 AM
They both suck.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 09:37:58 AM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: BananaLouie on January 22, 2012, 09:52:55 AM
I like Some of Your Love


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 10:12:56 AM
I like Some of Your Love
I just like the verse parts of it because it reminds me of mike love's "I Get Around" days. lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Jason on January 22, 2012, 11:09:14 AM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!

U MAD BRO?


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 11:09:57 AM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!

U MAD BRO?
wow u said bro :)


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 22, 2012, 11:28:34 AM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!

It doesn't suck but it's not wonderful either. Wouldn't make my Top 50 Beatles, that's for sure.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 11:36:45 AM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!

It doesn't suck but it's not wonderful either. Wouldn't make my Top 50 Beatles, that's for sure.
it's on my top 10 :[


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 22, 2012, 11:50:57 AM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!

It doesn't suck but it's not wonderful either. Wouldn't make my Top 50 Beatles, that's for sure.
it's on my top 10 :[

That's fine. This sort of thing is subjective. I just find it a bit empty and annoyingly repetitive.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 12:00:59 PM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!

It doesn't suck but it's not wonderful either. Wouldn't make my Top 50 Beatles, that's for sure.
it's on my top 10 :[

That's fine. This sort of thing is subjective. I just find it a bit empty and annoyingly repetitive.
repetitive-ness is catchy :) that's one of the beach boys strong points ...(surfin usa,i get around, dance dance dance, fun fun fun,) lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 22, 2012, 12:09:03 PM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!

It doesn't suck but it's not wonderful either. Wouldn't make my Top 50 Beatles, that's for sure.
it's on my top 10 :[

That's fine. This sort of thing is subjective. I just find it a bit empty and annoyingly repetitive.
repetitive-ness is catchy :) that's one of the beach boys strong points ...(surfin usa,i get around, dance dance dance, fun fun fun,) lol

It depends. If the melody is interesting then the hook should always make you come back for me. For me, Oh Darling's melody (like I said) is basic, rather dull and uninventive - typical late-60s white Englishman's blues, kind of thing.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 12:15:46 PM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!

It doesn't suck but it's not wonderful either. Wouldn't make my Top 50 Beatles, that's for sure.
it's on my top 10 :[

That's fine. This sort of thing is subjective. I just find it a bit empty and annoyingly repetitive.
repetitive-ness is catchy :) that's one of the beach boys strong points ...(surfin usa,i get around, dance dance dance, fun fun fun,) lol

It depends. If the melody is interesting then the hook should always make you come back for me. For me, Oh Darling's melody (like I said) is basic, rather dull and uninventive - typical late-60s white Englishman's blues, kind of thing.
english soul is just as good as american soul :)


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 22, 2012, 12:16:12 PM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!

It doesn't suck but it's not wonderful either. Wouldn't make my Top 50 Beatles, that's for sure.
it's on my top 10 :[

That's fine. This sort of thing is subjective. I just find it a bit empty and annoyingly repetitive.
repetitive-ness is catchy :) that's one of the beach boys strong points ...(surfin usa,i get around, dance dance dance, fun fun fun,) lol
I can tell you like repetitiveness, all your threads are comparsion threads. ([insert] vs. [insert])


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Jason on January 22, 2012, 12:16:52 PM

Yes. :) I said bro. :) Because I'm all about mah bros. :)


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 12:18:06 PM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!

It doesn't suck but it's not wonderful either. Wouldn't make my Top 50 Beatles, that's for sure.
it's on my top 10 :[

That's fine. This sort of thing is subjective. I just find it a bit empty and annoyingly repetitive.
repetitive-ness is catchy :) that's one of the beach boys strong points ...(surfin usa,i get around, dance dance dance, fun fun fun,) lol
I can tell you like repetitiveness, all your threads are comparsion threads. ([insert] vs. [insert])
:] yes i do that alot except for when i post in the beach boys section


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 12:18:48 PM

Yes. :) I said bro. :) Because I'm all about mah bros. :)
that's very suprising on this thread ..the 1st time i said bro everybody got on me about it smh


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 22, 2012, 12:19:38 PM
english soul is just as good as american soul :)

No it isn't. And late 60s Englishman "blues" (not soul), in particular, is awful. Early to mid-60s stuff was pretty good (early stuff by The Yardbirds, The Stones, etc.) mostly because it was tight and covers or very closely related to covers (think The High Numbers' "I'm The Face" vs. Slim Harpo's "Got Love if You Want It"). English music was at its best when it was finding its own territory.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Jason on January 22, 2012, 12:20:32 PM
O SMH OMG U GAIZ R MAKIN FUN

C0MP4R150N 7HR34D5 R 6H3Y


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 22, 2012, 12:23:15 PM
english soul is just as good as american soul :)

No it isn't. And ate 60s Englishman "blues" (not soul), in particular, is awful. Early to mid-60s stuff was pretty good (early stuff by The Yardbirds, The Stones, etc.) mostly because it was tight and covers or very closely related to covers (think The High Numbers' "I'm The Face" vs. Slim Harpo's "Got Love if You Want It"). English music was at its best when it was finding its own territory.
I saw an interview with the Moody Blues about their early R&B period, and they admitted they had no clue what they were singing about due to the R&B music being about the poor American south and they were middle class Englishmen.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 12:25:25 PM
O SMH OMG U GAIZ R MAKIN FUN

C0MP4R150N 7HR34D5 R 6H3Y
lol dude that's over-doing it..


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 22, 2012, 12:25:31 PM
english soul is just as good as american soul :)

No it isn't. And ate 60s Englishman "blues" (not soul), in particular, is awful. Early to mid-60s stuff was pretty good (early stuff by The Yardbirds, The Stones, etc.) mostly because it was tight and covers or very closely related to covers (think The High Numbers' "I'm The Face" vs. Slim Harpo's "Got Love if You Want It"). English music was at its best when it was finding its own territory.
I saw an interview with the Moody Blues about their early R&B period, and they admitted they had no clue what they were singing about due to the R&B music being about the poor American south and they were middle class Englishmen.

And yet Go Now by them is one of the greatest songs ever made.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 12:29:10 PM
english soul is just as good as american soul :)

No it isn't. And ate 60s Englishman "blues" (not soul), in particular, is awful. Early to mid-60s stuff was pretty good (early stuff by The Yardbirds, The Stones, etc.) mostly because it was tight and covers or very closely related to covers (think The High Numbers' "I'm The Face" vs. Slim Harpo's "Got Love if You Want It"). English music was at its best when it was finding its own territory.
I saw an interview with the Moody Blues about their early R&B period, and they admitted they had no clue what they were singing about due to the R&B music being about the poor American south and they were middle class Englishmen.
lmfaoooooo so true. i like when mick jagger said "momma cooking chicken in bacon grease" i'm like wow he has no clue what he's doing smh lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 22, 2012, 12:31:27 PM
english soul is just as good as american soul :)

No it isn't. And ate 60s Englishman "blues" (not soul), in particular, is awful. Early to mid-60s stuff was pretty good (early stuff by The Yardbirds, The Stones, etc.) mostly because it was tight and covers or very closely related to covers (think The High Numbers' "I'm The Face" vs. Slim Harpo's "Got Love if You Want It"). English music was at its best when it was finding its own territory.
I saw an interview with the Moody Blues about their early R&B period, and they admitted they had no clue what they were singing about due to the R&B music being about the poor American south and they were middle class Englishmen.

And yet Go Now by them is one of the greatest songs ever made.
Agreed, great British Invasion song that gave the Moodies their first taste of success.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 22, 2012, 12:32:20 PM
english soul is just as good as american soul :)

No it isn't. And ate 60s Englishman "blues" (not soul), in particular, is awful. Early to mid-60s stuff was pretty good (early stuff by The Yardbirds, The Stones, etc.) mostly because it was tight and covers or very closely related to covers (think The High Numbers' "I'm The Face" vs. Slim Harpo's "Got Love if You Want It"). English music was at its best when it was finding its own territory.
I saw an interview with the Moody Blues about their early R&B period, and they admitted they had no clue what they were singing about due to the R&B music being about the poor American south and they were middle class Englishmen.
when you mentioned that this song came to my mind
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1z5sbOhhp0
perfect exmaple of what you're saying


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Chocolate Shake Man on January 22, 2012, 01:13:44 PM
I don't quite jive with The Moody Blues quote though. I mean, how does one begin to understand culture - either another culture or even their own culture - without narratives (including music). Furthermore, clearly that 40s and 50s blues music tapped into something in the 50s English kid world given that its influence was so widespread.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: SMiLE Brian on January 22, 2012, 01:22:06 PM
I don't quite jive with The Moody Blues quote though. I mean, how does one begin to understand culture - either another culture or even their own culture - without narratives (including music). Furthermore, clearly that 40s and 50s blues music tapped into something in the 50s English kid world given that its influence was so widespread.
This is the video where they talk about it. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbNo6Wnejic


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Ron on January 23, 2012, 08:01:21 AM
english soul is just as good as american soul :)

No it isn't. And ate 60s Englishman "blues" (not soul), in particular, is awful. Early to mid-60s stuff was pretty good (early stuff by The Yardbirds, The Stones, etc.) mostly because it was tight and covers or very closely related to covers (think The High Numbers' "I'm The Face" vs. Slim Harpo's "Got Love if You Want It"). English music was at its best when it was finding its own territory.
I saw an interview with the Moody Blues about their early R&B period, and they admitted they had no clue what they were singing about due to the R&B music being about the poor American south and they were middle class Englishmen.

And yet Go Now by them is one of the greatest songs ever made.

Go Now is so good I can't even listen to it.  It makes me remember every girl I ever loved, it's THAT good, lol.  Beautiful song.  Everybody knows that of course, but the mood of it, and then the over the top harmonies just blow me away.  Very well done. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Awesoman on January 25, 2012, 09:25:13 PM
Which one do you prefer? :) I'm a huge fan of both groups but i'mma have to go with the beatles on this one, it just captures that early rock and roll feel :D mixed in with a little doo-wop.

Beach Boys - Oh Darlin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXUKhZMt-ns

Beatles - Oh! Darling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLnVOyhqSi8

Oh come on now.  The Beatles win this one hands down. 


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Newguy562 on January 25, 2012, 10:41:45 PM
Which one do you prefer? :) I'm a huge fan of both groups but i'mma have to go with the beatles on this one, it just captures that early rock and roll feel :D mixed in with a little doo-wop.

Beach Boys - Oh Darlin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXUKhZMt-ns

Beatles - Oh! Darling
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLnVOyhqSi8

Oh come on now.  The Beatles win this one hands down. 
thank you :) lol


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: I. Spaceman on January 26, 2012, 08:42:50 AM
Go Now is a great record by Bessie Banks.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on January 31, 2012, 09:07:52 PM
Has anyone else noticed just how insane Ringo's drumming is on Oh Darling?

I've been playing drums for over 20 years and I have no freaking hell what Ringo's doing in the build ups to "when you told me........"
I mean, I think I KNOW what he's doing, but just how he's doing it seems useless to try and unravel. I've seen many people cover this song, but I've never seen anyone even attempt the drum part as it is on the recording.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Pinder's Gone To Kokomo And Back Again on January 31, 2012, 09:13:16 PM
 ;D  ;D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQopl0Pjans&feature=related


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: MBE on January 31, 2012, 11:42:18 PM
I like the Beatles record a lot more, but one must keep in mind that The Beach Boys in 1979-80 weren't exactly in their prime.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: GreatUrduPoet on April 30, 2012, 09:16:09 AM
OMG!!!!!  :o THE BEATLES ONE DOESN'T SUCK!!!!!!

It doesn't suck but it's not wonderful either. Wouldn't make my Top 50 Beatles, that's for sure.
it's on my top 10 :[

That's fine. This sort of thing is subjective. I just find it a bit empty and annoyingly repetitive.
repetitive-ness is catchy :) that's one of the beach boys strong points ...(surfin usa,i get around, dance dance dance, fun fun fun,) lol

It depends. If the melody is interesting then the hook should always make you come back for me. For me, Oh Darling's melody (like I said) is basic, rather dull and uninventive - typical late-60s white Englishman's blues, kind of thing.


The two things that make me dig the Beach Boy's 'Darlin' are the catchy melody and Carl's super-enthusiastic, Ronnie Spector-inspired lead vocal. That song really is quite a showcase for a strong lead singer. The Beatles 'Oh Darlin' is my own personal favourite track off of 'Abbey Road'...but obviously is not understood by most of the posters on this thread. It is not a "soul" or "English white-boy blues" number at all...it is, in fact, The Beatles tribute to the American 'swamp pop' genre (which explains its lasting popularity in South Louisiana). Hundreds of swamp pop songs from the 50s & 60s had a similar melody and chord progression and made for the successful careers of people like Johnnie Allen, Joe Barry, Freddie Fender etc. Paul's over-top-vocal and Ringo's wild drumming just take it to a higher-level.  


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Lonely Summer on April 30, 2012, 02:36:20 PM
The BB's "Oh Darlin" is a decent song elevated by Carl's vocals. The Beatles' "Oh Darlin" is a decent song elevated by Macca's over-the-top screaming, and Ringo's drumming.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: pixletwin on April 30, 2012, 05:34:14 PM
I actually think the Beatles' Oh Darling would have been better harmonized between John and Paul's voice. If you hear the Anthology version that has John taking the lead, he brings a much more interesting performance out of the song.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: Lonely Summer on April 30, 2012, 10:25:27 PM
John Lennon always had one of THE BEST voices for straight ahead rock 'n' roll.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: GreatUrduPoet on May 01, 2012, 06:46:20 AM
John Lennon always had one of THE BEST voices for straight ahead rock 'n' roll.

But Paul has a more natural "swamp pop" voice for the material at hand (ie: "Oh Darlin').


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: pixletwin on May 01, 2012, 07:44:50 AM
Swamp pop? What is swamp pop and how does "Oh Darlin'" qualify for it?


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: GreatUrduPoet on May 01, 2012, 09:51:34 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swamp_pop

http://www.amazon.com/Swamp-Pop-Creole-Rhythm-American/dp/0878058761/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1335890908&sr=1-1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ_sE4ZvWuE

The Shane Bernard book specifically mentions the local popularity of The Beatles "Oh Darlin" in
Acadian South Louisiana.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: pixletwin on May 01, 2012, 10:32:12 AM
Hey that's some really cool stuff. I had never heard of this genre before. Thanks for sharing.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: GreatUrduPoet on May 01, 2012, 11:58:30 AM
Hey that's some really cool stuff. I had never heard of this genre before. Thanks for sharing.

People don't talk about it much anywhere North of Interstate-10.


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: runnersdialzero on May 04, 2012, 11:25:04 AM
For the longest time (and by longest time I mean the past few months, because it just fuckin' came out of nowhere and won't fucking go away), I didn't know what SMH meant and just heard it in my head as "suck my head". Kind of like how people started using "FTW" and I'd only known that as "f*** the world", so people would say "OH YEAH BRO NICKELBACK FTW" and I'd hear "OH YEAH BRO NICKEBLACK f*** THE WORLD"

Don't get on my for using "bro", bro, or I'll SMH (suck my head)


Title: Re: Beach Boys \
Post by: lance on May 08, 2012, 10:37:04 AM
Beatles track better for me. Beach Boys track more forgettable. Sounds flat. Could have been better.