Transition between Smile and Smiley Smile.

[The Heartical Don]

I don't mean to be disagreeable...but I guess I am. I don't buy that Brian had some sort of grudge, conscious or unconscious. While I'm at it, I don't buy that Brian was not able to finish or stopped because it would take too long to figure out. Every, or nearly, every scrap of recording was identified at the time of recording and sometimes during recording as to what it was for. None of the revered excuses for Brian work, imo. There is no need for excuses for Brian because there is nothing to excuse. He didn't dig it, he did dig something else, he did what he wanted [something else] but not as some double-cross, ulterior-motive, got-ya for himself or somebody else but because that is what he musically wanted to do. He was over it but it is hard for us, and the group, to get over him being over it.

Re. the group not wanting SMiLE scrapped: Brian said it in 1967/68. The quote is in LLVS but it has been edited to make it seem that group wanted SMiLE scrapped.

Hi Cam -

thanks for clarifying, much appreciated. And of course to the others participating here.

[rab2591]

Eh, probably belongs in a different thread, but.....

I was reading Timothy White's book 'The Nearest Faraway Place' and saw that listed as the 'air' element for SMiLE is 'Good Vibrations'. I was under the impression that 'Wind Chimes' was the 'air' of the elements....anyone have any info on this?

[Ron]

I don't think anybody knows.  It all lines up on the bwps though. 

I'm in Great shape is about the earth (living on the earth, farm houses, etc.)

I wanna be around is about procreation, a very earth thing

Woodshop is very earthy, building things, repairing her heart, whatever.  Hammers, saws, wood

Vegatables grow in the earth.

On a Holiday is wind, the song starts with woodwinds, has slide whistles, etc. 

Wind-chimes is obviously wind

Mrs. Oleary's Cow obviously fire

In Blue Hawaii obviously water

Good Vibrations represents the Aether. 

Good link

http://www.mountainman.com.au/aeon_faq.htm

[rab2591]

Good Vibrations represents the Aether. 

Makes perfect sense....but i've never seen it documented anywhere that GV was meant to be an element. I really wonder where White got that idea from.

[Ron]

When Smile 2004 came out, Brian had a question and answer on his webpage forum.  I specifically asked him which songs were which elements, and he just gave some really off the cuff strange ass answer about it.  I'm sure it's archived somewhere. 

[rab2591]

When Smile 2004 came out, Brian had a question and answer on his webpage forum.  I specifically asked him which songs were which elements, and he just gave some really off the cuff strange ass answer about it. I'm sure it's archived somewhere. 

Doesn't surprise me....I tried looking for an archive of the forum but no such luck finding it.

[A Million Units In Jan!]

Good Vibrations represents the Aether. 

Makes perfect sense....but i've never seen it documented anywhere that GV was meant to be an element. I really wonder where White got that idea from.

From the same place he got the song 'Indian Wisdom'. Which means; what year did that book come out? Late 90's? Even then we didn't know the things we know now, and alot of stuff was rumor or 'fact' that had been handed down through the years. Meaning, at that point the majority of stuff was still a mystery.

[Ron]

The whole album is a mystery, and always will be.  Even Brian doesn't know or at least won't say what the original intent was, it's obvious BWPS was how he intended it to sound in 2004, not in 1967.