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« Reply #25 on: May 19, 2009, 01:44:40 PM »

He's trying to avoid Santa Ana Winds as much as he can...but he's doing everything he can for HCTN?? WOW Bruce! oops
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« Reply #26 on: May 19, 2009, 03:11:04 PM »

He's trying to avoid Santa Ana Winds as much as he can...but he's doing everything he can for HCTN?? WOW Bruce! oops

And people think Brian was the crazy one  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #27 on: May 19, 2009, 03:14:17 PM »

Has it ever been known exactly why Brian was so opposed to the band using California Feeling in the late 70's?
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« Reply #28 on: May 19, 2009, 03:57:47 PM »

I've never heard the 1974 Brian version (very few have), but I can see why the 77 version wasn't.

It sucks.
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« Reply #29 on: May 19, 2009, 10:57:47 PM »

I don't think the late-seventies BB version sucks. It sounds a bit drowsy, yes, but so does most of the Light Album without being half as charming and melodically satisfying. Also, unlike Full Sail and Goin' South, CF really does sound like the Beach Boys.
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« Reply #30 on: May 20, 2009, 01:24:25 AM »

It's the last time Carl sounds a little drugged so to speak, but I do still like their version. I never heard one I disliked but I don't care for some of the lyrics in Brian's remake from 2002.
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« Reply #31 on: May 20, 2009, 02:48:38 AM »

The late 70's version is one of my favorite BB recordings. Really spacey.
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« Reply #32 on: May 20, 2009, 04:26:42 AM »

It's the last time Carl sounds a little drugged so to speak, but I do still like their version. I never heard one I disliked but I don't care for some of the lyrics in Brian's remake from 2002.

i wouldn't mind the new lyrics so much if they didn't replace the ending verse, which is just too good. Apart from that, it's perfectly inoffensive. Could've been one of their great 70's tunes with a slightly bigger production, i think
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« Reply #33 on: May 20, 2009, 09:45:16 AM »

The 2002 version has the original lyrics, doesn't it?
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« Reply #34 on: May 20, 2009, 10:17:57 AM »

the last verse is completely different - Instead of the epic ending, they go for another full verse with some duller ones. witness - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFXXyRFPSwY
the rest is the same though, you're right. I prefer the 70's version cos of the greatness of that ending. it's a cracking song with that
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« Reply #35 on: May 20, 2009, 01:22:56 PM »

The 1978 track sounds better one semitone sped. The vocals, especially Carl, at least.
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« Reply #36 on: May 20, 2009, 01:53:45 PM »

The 1978 track sounds better one semitone sped. The vocals, especially Carl, at least.

Agree.
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« Reply #37 on: May 21, 2009, 12:06:31 AM »

Did we ever figure out exactly what Bruce did on SO TOUGH?  I don't hear him singing anywhere.  I suppose he could have played keyboards on something, though I think a lot of the parts have been accounted for (Carl/Daryl Dragon/Brian).

If I had to guess, the only I could think of might be the organ on "He Come Down."  Andrew?  Alan?
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« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2009, 04:34:37 AM »

Did we ever figure out exactly what Bruce did on SO TOUGH?  I don't hear him singing anywhere.  I suppose he could have played keyboards on something, though I think a lot of the parts have been accounted for (Carl/Daryl Dragon/Brian).

If I had to guess, the only I could think of might be the organ on "He Come Down."  Andrew?  Alan?

from what I read and heard he participated on either Marcella or Mess Of Help (or both). It was discussed here before I think. But he's probably buried way down in the mix.

I'm still wondering btw, the BB (if I can believe Badman's book on this) supposed to have done a (lip-synched) performance of Marcella for a Dutch TV program on Feb. 24th 1972 **. And Bruce - according to Badman - was there as well. Apart from the fact that I'm very curious if this was actually broadcasted... is this true at all?

(** this was the day before the Grand Gala Du Disque show)
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« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2009, 06:04:28 AM »


I'm still wondering btw, the BB (if I can believe Badman's book on this) supposed to have done a (lip-synched) performance of Marcella for a Dutch TV program on Feb. 24th 1972 **. And Bruce - according to Badman - was there as well. Apart from the fact that I'm very curious if this was actually broadcasted... is this true at all?



It is true. That picture was taken at NOS Studios, Hilversum. Blondie made the trip to Holland but wasn´t on that clip (he didn´t play The Grand Gala Du Disque either).

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« Reply #40 on: May 21, 2009, 09:16:13 AM »


I'm still wondering btw, the BB (if I can believe Badman's book on this) supposed to have done a (lip-synched) performance of Marcella for a Dutch TV program on Feb. 24th 1972 **. And Bruce - according to Badman - was there as well. Apart from the fact that I'm very curious if this was actually broadcasted... is this true at all?



It is true. That picture was taken at NOS Studios, Hilversum. Blondie made the trip to Holland but wasn´t on that clip

Ah, I knew that picture, but wasn't aware that it was from that performance. Thanks for that info. It still makes me wonder though if it was ever broadcasted. Marcella wasn't released as a 45 yet as far as I remember.


(he didn´t play The Grand Gala Du Disque either).

I happen to have heard the audio-recording of GGDD a lot (and - no - of course I don't have it), and one of the hosts of the evening clearly mentions that this was a performance of the Beach Boys, including "TWO members of The Flames". And I also have a picture of the group performing that evening, and Blondie is clearly visible.

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« Reply #41 on: May 21, 2009, 10:16:21 AM »

Did we ever figure out exactly what Bruce did on SO TOUGH?  I don't hear him singing anywhere.  I suppose he could have played keyboards on something, though I think a lot of the parts have been accounted for (Carl/Daryl Dragon/Brian).

If I had to guess, the only I could think of might be the organ on "He Come Down."  Andrew?  Alan?


Bruce's last show with the BB was April 2nd, 1972, in Tampa. However, he did contribute to the CATP sessions between 4/3 and 4/13 - a very basic version of "Ten Years Harmony" was recorded then. By his own admission he was present at Brian's "Rooftop Harry" session on the 15th at Larrabee Sound. This was the day after the first non-Bruce BB gig in Ames IA.
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« Reply #42 on: May 21, 2009, 01:38:08 PM »

But that doesn't actually put him on the album, is what I'm saying.  If Bruce says he was on all the albums bar MIU then he had to have sung or played on something that actually was released.

He probably sang on "Marcella" though I (and we) dissected it thoroughly enough to pick Jack Rieley out of the mix (confirmed by Alan Boyd) but not Bruce...maybe he's one of the sped-up background harmonies on the verses.  He could also have played bass on something I suppose, though he doesn't seem to have played much bass in the studio and with Blondie there I don't know why he would have.
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« Reply #43 on: May 21, 2009, 01:40:50 PM »

Come to think of it, perhaps Bruce sang on "Cuddle Up."  It was recorded prior to CATP, right?  Or was it?
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« Reply #44 on: May 21, 2009, 01:43:42 PM »

Not listening to it right now, but I could def. imagine him on "All This Is That."

At any rate, I'd just say that Bruce's bit on the 1978 "California Feeling" is really quite affecting.  Someone mentioned elsewhere that a song like "Endless Harmony" sounded a little like B-grade Paul Simon.  But when deployed properly, as it was on CF, it had a very touching, elegiac quality to it. 
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« Reply #45 on: May 21, 2009, 03:41:35 PM »

Is that Billy Hinsche behind Mike?

Who's playing the piano?
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« Reply #46 on: May 21, 2009, 06:01:53 PM »

I thought "All This Is That" was three part harmony all the way through -- Carl, Al and Mike.  Are there any block or background harmonies with more than three voices on there?  I don't remember any.  Of course Bruce could have been one of the voices somewhere in there but I thought it was all the three writers.
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« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2009, 10:16:51 AM »

Come to think of it, perhaps Bruce sang on "Cuddle Up."  It was recorded prior to CATP, right?  Or was it?

This excellent website will answer that question.  Roll Eyes

http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/gigs.html

Try the pages for 1971 & 1972.
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« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2009, 10:24:31 AM »

It really is an excellent website.  It's very generous of you to devote your time (and money) to nail down Beach Boy history.
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« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2009, 03:10:37 PM »

I like the Rocky/Spring version the best backing track and vocally-wise.
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