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Re: Beach Boys Mythbusters
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Myth - Brian Wilson is a genius.
Fact - Brian Wilson is a hard-working guy.
Myth-Brian Wilson is a genius
Fact - Brian Wilson is a MUSICAL genius.
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Thing is, David Marks said that the word "genius" was used in the neighborhood to describe Brian long before he was known for music, so....I dunno.
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A-HA!!!
Okay, so I finally have an answer to the VDP-as-Tommy Manicotti dispute:
http://mleddy.blogspot.com/2010/10/van-dyke-parks-in-honeymooners.html
The link to the video on YouTube, btw, doesn't work. Copyright police.
However....anybody have some kind of "aging" program and can run this photo through it? This is DEFINITELY not the same kid who played Tommy in the "classic 39" episodes...and he does have a bit of a southern accent...
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A-HA!!!
Okay, so I finally have an answer to the VDP-as-Tommy Manicotti dispute:
http://mleddy.blogspot.com/2010/10/van-dyke-parks-in-honeymooners.html
That's awesome! Gotta love the internet...
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Myth- Brian was so happy, he cried when he heard Jack Rieley do the vocals to a day in the Life of a Tree...
is that a myth or fact?
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Myth: 1976- Brian's Back
Fact: "no he's not" said little Nicola
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Re: Beach Boys Mythbusters
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Quote from: punkinhead on August 28, 2011, 02:17:59 PM
Myth- Brian was so happy, he cried when he heard Jack Rieley do the vocals to a day in the Life of a Tree...
is that a myth or fact?
Depends who you ask - Mr. Desper strongly refuted this myth, for what it's worth.
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Jack Rieley said it was "bullshit", too. He said Brian burst into the room pumping his fists in the air like a football coach when Jack completed the vocal.
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is it a myth that Murry made Brian take a poop on newspaper?
what about Brian's
"relations"
with Tandyn Almer?
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Re: Beach Boys Mythbusters
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what about Brian's "relations" with Tandyn Almer?
I've wondered about that...I was told years ago that it was a one time thing, but it was by someone whose own reputation is a bit 'suspect', so I dunno.
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Myth: Brian sang God Only Knows on the outtake on the Pet Sounds Box Set.
Fact: It was a mistake, much like Brian singing Be Here In There Morning and that Daddy Dear song.
Is this now the consensus re: the GOK outtake? I always thought it was Brian, but now I am not so sure.
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Myth: Dennis had no musical talent
Fact: Dennis was a genius in his own right
Myth: Dennis abused substances pretty much from Charles Manson years to his death.
Fact: Dennis was clean from 1973 - 1976. Probably off and on from 1969 -1973 (?)
I agree with you regarding Dennis's talent, but what is your source that he was clean from 1973 to 1976? The very apparent deterioration of his voice over that period would seem to indicate otherwise.
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no way dennis was totally sober. no way no way no way mo way noway mowa, wyamwoan
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Is this now the consensus re: the GOK outtake? I always thought it was Brian, but now I am not so sure.
It is indeed Carl; IIRC Leaf has admitted to being in error on that instance.
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Myth: the Boys did SMiLE under the guidance of Brian and VDP.
Fact: the Sunrays and Rick Henn did it, under Murry's baton.
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Quote from: punkinhead on August 29, 2011, 06:31:58 PM
is it a myth that Murry made Brian take a poop on newspaper?
Nope.
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Is the whole story about Mike making Brian cry during the 'Redwood sessions' fact or fiction?
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Quote from: punkinhead on September 03, 2011, 01:38:02 PM
Is the whole story about Mike making Brian cry during the 'Redwood sessions' fact or fiction?
Almost certainly fiction. Consider.
In some 44 years, Danny Hutton's not said word one about it, yet he was allegedly there...
Sole source - Chuck Negron...
According to someone who knows this stuff better than I, the session dates don't jibe...
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Myth: Brian was not present on So Tough apart from the writing credits.
Fact: This is completely false. He is ALL OVER 'Mess of Help' and 'He Came Down' vocally, and he did production work on both cuts. He is also present vocally on 'Marcella' and allegedly on 'Cuddle Up'.
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Quote from: punkinhead on August 29, 2011, 06:31:58 PM
is it a myth that Murry made Brian take a poop on newspaper?
Nope.
You know, there is a somewhat gross -- but reasonable -- explanation to this that could have gotten lost over the years: Brian had pinworms or another fecal infection, and they needed to take a stool sample to the doctor without it coming in contact with water in the loo.
Ironically, one of the more common places for a child to contract pinworms is a public sandbox...
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on August 31, 2011, 12:11:43 AM
Quote from: punkinhead on August 29, 2011, 06:31:58 PM
is it a myth that Murry made Brian take a poop on newspaper?
Nope.
You know, there is a somewhat gross -- but reasonable -- explanation to this that could have gotten lost over the years: Brian had pinworms or another fecal infection, and they needed to take a stool sample to the doctor without it coming in contact with water in the loo.
Ironically, one of the more common places for a child to contract pinworms is a public sandbox...
Lee
As I recall, that was Murry's punishment when he stumbled upon a young Brian, ah,
pleasuring himself
.
And yes, it scares me I remember this stuff.
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I thought that his punishment for jacking off was to be tied to a tree?
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is it a myth that Murry made Brian take a poop on newspaper?
Nope.
You know, there is a somewhat gross -- but reasonable -- explanation to this that could have gotten lost over the years: Brian had pinworms or another fecal infection, and they needed to take a stool sample to the doctor without it coming in contact with water in the loo.
Ironically, one of the more common places for a child to contract pinworms is a public sandbox...
Lee
As I recall, that was Murry's punishment when he stumbled upon a young Brian, ah,
pleasuring himself
.
And yes, it scares me I remember this stuff.
Horrible stuff, isn't it? According to BBs lore, Murry was such an inept and clueless father... I guess his main mode of expression when in doubt was cruelty. Oddly, he reminds me of some descriptions of certain mental disorders. People can veer from aggression and cruel behaviour to a state of utter soft sentimentality within minutes. IIRC Brian said this of Murry numerous times.
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Re: Beach Boys Mythbusters
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Quote from: The Real Beach Boy on April 07, 2010, 07:58:07 PM
Myth - Brian Wilson is a genius.
Fact - Brian Wilson is a hard-working guy.
Myth-Brian Wilson is a genius
Fact - Brian Wilson is a MUSICAL genius.
Myth - Murry is a genius, too
Fact- No, he's not
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