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« on: September 16, 2009, 08:50:53 AM »

OK, we've heard about the Carnegie Hall 72 CD/DVD release, and a possible Dennis 71-73 solo track collection.

With the success of the Beatles stereo and mono box sets, how about a boxed set of all the albums, remastered, in stereo (with the mono albums remixed in stereo where the tapes exist) and in the original mono, for the first time ever on CD for the Surfin' USA through All Summer Long albums?  And include a Rarities/Outtakes CD with the box as well. 

Maybe they're saving the Complete Capitol singles Vol 2 for the 11/11/2011?
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« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 09:22:08 AM »

In my point of view I donīt need no remastered things. I catched all original Vinlys and have the CDs - thatīs enough for me. Donīt need these Single collections either...


What Iīd like to have is ... the Dennis Solo-Tracks and the unreleased Beach Boys Stuff over the years... in good quality. That would be cool! And they should release the Paramount Concert from the 90th Smiley.
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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2009, 09:43:46 AM »

I would love: a 3 disk SMiLE '67 set with extensive annotation, for the diehards. And for all others: a new promotion campaign for the 'Good Vibrations' box set (which, IMHO, still is THE Platonic idea of a good box set).

If it is possible (in a monetary sense): a 2 disk set of the finest unreleased stuff throughout the Brother years would be welcome.

But please: no Beatles type of thing.

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« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2009, 10:03:46 AM »

In my point of view I donīt need no remastered things. I catched all original Vinlys and have the CDs - thatīs enough for me. Donīt need these Single collections either...


What Iīd like to have is ... the Dennis Solo-Tracks and the unreleased Beach Boys Stuff over the years... in good quality. That would be cool! And they should release the Paramount Concert from the 90th Smiley.

I too would like a professional clean copy of the paramount unplugged concert.  But because of the nature of it....(unplugged) I'm not sure if the average buyer would "get it"  Unless it would be promoted that way  (ON THE RELEASE OF THEIR BOX SET IN 1993, THE BEACH BOYS PERFORMED A CAREER SPANNING  TWO AND A HALF HOUR CONCERT IN THE POPULAR "UNPLUGGED" FORMAT OF THE TIME.  WITH A FOCUS ON VOCALS AND NO NONSENSE BASIC INSTRUMENTATION, THE BEACHBOYS GAVE THE FAN FILLED AUDIENCE A NIGHT TO REMEMBER!
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« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2009, 10:08:26 AM »

I need more (all) info on that Paramount concert. Please, show this country hick where to direct his horse 'n' carriage...  Grin
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« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2009, 10:35:06 AM »

I need more (all) info on that Paramount concert. Please, show this country hick where to direct his horse 'n' carriage...  Grin

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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2009, 10:39:15 AM »

I'm with Bicyclerider.
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2009, 11:13:18 AM »

I need more (all) info on that Paramount concert. Please, show this country hick where to direct his horse 'n' carriage...  Grin

sent pm.......
could I get the same pm???
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2009, 11:13:31 AM »

In my point of view I donīt need no remastered things. I catched all original Vinlys and have the CDs - thatīs enough for me. Donīt need these Single collections either...


What Iīd like to have is ... the Dennis Solo-Tracks and the unreleased Beach Boys Stuff over the years... in good quality. That would be cool! And they should release the Paramount Concert from the 90th Smiley.

I too would like a professional clean copy of the paramount unplugged concert.  But because of the nature of it....(unplugged) I'm not sure if the average buyer would "get it"  Unless it would be promoted that way  (ON THE RELEASE OF THEIR BOX SET IN 1993, THE BEACH BOYS PERFORMED A CAREER SPANNING  TWO AND A HALF HOUR CONCERT IN THE POPULAR "UNPLUGGED" FORMAT OF THE TIME.  WITH A FOCUS ON VOCALS AND NO NONSENSE BASIC INSTRUMENTATION, THE BEACHBOYS GAVE THE FAN FILLED AUDIENCE A NIGHT TO REMEMBER!

That would be false advertising - the unplugged part of the show was maybe 35 minutes/11 songs from about 40.
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2009, 11:27:24 AM »

False advertising... like that's never happened before. Isn't Knebworth advertised as "the last time the Beach Boys all played together"?
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« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2009, 11:36:11 AM »

... I thought they wrote "last time they played together in England" didnīt they? Or last time it was recorded?

Yeah, huh, a Smile Box Set would become handy as well. But the Paramount has a good qualitiy. I mean, not that Iīve heard it anyhow, because I know having bootlegs and stuff is wrong  angel so ah, er... yeah

A couple of years ago when this "Love" project of the Bealtes was realised the Beach Boys asked the same producer to do the same with their stuff, didnīt they? And the Beatles-guys worked 5 years on the remastering project, so I donīt think that itīd be possible.

And we are in a rezession right now Smiley. I donīt like it to spend money for something that I already have. Vinyl sound is good enough for me. With all this remastered music youīll have to buy a new Sound System, because with an old one you canīt hear any difference...... see my point?  LOL
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« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2009, 11:45:50 AM »

wallabie wrote:

"And we are in a rezession right now . I donīt like it to spend money for something that I already have. Vinyl sound is good enough for me. With all this remastered music youīll have to buy a new Sound System, because with an old one you canīt hear any difference...... see my point?"
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Not me.
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« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2009, 12:21:40 PM »

... who wants to purchase a new sound system, with heat sinks, an built-in Spatializer and Aphex Aural Exciter, Burr-Brown op-amps, 14 sound channels, two ventilators, finished with Polynesian Sequoia sempervirens hardwood, and a vintage 1926 Theremin for a remote control?

Not me.
Only if it has an iPod dock for those quality MP3 things.
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« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2009, 02:01:06 PM »

wallabie wrote:

"And we are in a rezession right now . I donīt like it to spend money for something that I already have. Vinyl sound is good enough for me. With all this remastered music youīll have to buy a new Sound System, because with an old one you canīt hear any difference...... see my point?"
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True dat. I mean: who wants to purchase a new sound system, with heat sinks, an built-in Spatializer and Aphex Aural Exciter, Burr-Brown op-amps, 14 sound channels, two ventilators, finished with Polynesian Sequoia sempervirens hardwood, and a vintage 1926 Theremin for a remote control?

Not me.

I would - that system sounds incredibly cool!  You know, if we'd all just spend more money on Beach Boys product and sound and video equipment to play it on, there'd be no more recession!
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« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2009, 02:57:35 PM »

But nobody of us would have any money  LOL angel


Ah, ya all know what the biggest surprise would be? If www.beachboyscentral.com would come online - they said it will be hosted on the 4th of July. Maybe they meant 4. of July 2011?
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« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2009, 04:20:30 PM »

OK, we've heard about the Carnegie Hall 72 CD/DVD release, and a possible Dennis 71-73 solo track collection.

With the success of the Beatles stereo and mono box sets, how about a boxed set of all the albums, remastered, in stereo (with the mono albums remixed in stereo where the tapes exist) and in the original mono, for the first time ever on CD for the Surfin' USA through All Summer Long albums?  And include a Rarities/Outtakes CD with the box as well. 

Maybe they're saving the Complete Capitol singles Vol 2 for the 11/11/2011?



IMHO the best thing would be if they do a DVD-box with various (unreleased) concerts for the fans in a limited edition and sell the DVDs individual for the non-hardcorefans. Release (at least some of) the concerts on CD too, plus the whole '65 Chicago-conert (to have something that represents the classic Beach Boys as a live act, incl. Brian).

Then of course the PBS-special with Beach Boys reunion (but please (!!!) without any guest stars, except maybe BBs-offspring like Carl B., Wendy, Carnie, Michael, Christian, etc) for either a single song for each act or for the rousing finale, which will probably include "Barbara friggin' Ann".

And then it's time to release the new Beach Boys studio album on Capitol and for once in the Beach Boys' carreere do it right! Make announcements in newspapers, radio, internet. Get some tastefully (!!!) stories, about how work was done in the studio and on the road and how the songs were composed back in the days.
Once just let the music speak and don't try to make some fun-in-the-sun-nostalgia thing out of it and also not a Pet Sounds-thing, because then the same problem will come up that's causing the underappreciation of the post-PS-music.

Let some famous and respected guys write in music-magazines about the greatness of their music (but don't compare them to the Beatles in every sentence or mention how much McCa was influenced by Pet Sounds) and get the BBs on Letterman, Conan o'Brian, etc. etc.

Again, this one time, please do it right. See what kind of potential is liyng there. Get rid of the hawaiian shirts and put the boys into some dark tuxedos or whatever and make music (from the early garage-surfrock to the big stuff) without any waves on a screen or other nautical orientated stageshows. For the surf-part, the band should be just basic and the more complex the music gets, the bigger the band. You could use Mike and Bruce's guys for the early stuff with David Marks on leadguitar of course and then use Brian's band for the Pet Sounds,etc-era music. Make it like a musical that shows the different eras of the band in music. No talking or acting or whatever.
Just do something new and maybe innovative. Don't try to do what did good for other bands and reunions. So no "We'll make a Beach Boys version of the Beatles' "Love" " or whatsoever.

This would be the last chance to make the Beach Boys' name shine again for the public. Knowing the history of the band though, I guess it won't turn out very good and tasteful....

It shouldn't be so hard if you do it with some love....... (well, and Wil-son of course)
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« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2009, 05:11:46 PM »

Iīd say - Mr. Rocker you are a dreamer  Grin.. they couldnīt do it right neither for the 25, 30, 35, 40 or 45...
a new studio album would be cool, because then they could create a "Beach Boys Sound of 2000" ... but I donīt think that this will happen


Yeah, a concert Box Set would be cool. Chicago, Michigan, the Beachiago-Tour... maybe Leiīd Hawaii  LOL, Carnigie Hall, Paramount... yeah, Iīll take it.

But please - as ya said - no more guest stars and no more "Huh, we create a box set with 100 songs where 90 of them are already sold by the fans and 10 are unreleased"... they should give us a Live-Box-Set and an Unreleased-Box-Set (and a new studio album)


But this should be a concept album of California. So, donīt think that Alīs album will be published.... so 3 songs from Alanīs Album, 2 from Mike, 1 from Bruce (does he write songs?) maybe a cover of a Dennis Wilson song (Iīve got a friend  Grin) and 5 Brian Wilson Songs... yeah!
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« Reply #17 on: September 16, 2009, 05:15:32 PM »

Iīd say - Mr. Rocker you are a dreamer  Grin..



Just for information, I'm serious. That would be a professional way to celebrate the 50th anniversary and make money with stuff that probably wouldn't sell if it was released next year for example
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« Reply #18 on: September 16, 2009, 05:21:04 PM »

the unplugged part of the show was maybe 35 minutes/11 songs from about 40.

Interesting -- the Atlanta show's unplugged segment ran about an hour.





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« Reply #19 on: September 16, 2009, 07:17:07 PM »

OK, we've heard about the Carnegie Hall 72 CD/DVD release, and a possible Dennis 71-73 solo track collection.


I haven't heard this, you have any sources? not to sound like a college prof or anything  Grin
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« Reply #20 on: September 17, 2009, 02:52:24 AM »

Concerning re-issues of the albums: it would be a great chance to clean up the discography, cause it's total mess now with odds & ends scattered all over the place. If they would re-issue all the albums individually (not as 2fers, that is) and add all those odds & ends (B-sides, 2fer bonus tracks, some unreleased stuff, all the rarities from 'Endless Harmony', 'Hawthorne CA', 'Beach Boys Rarities' and the GV box set) to the albums they were recorded for, as bonus tracks... That would be fantastic. Imagine how great an expanded version of 'Sunflower' would be, for instance...
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« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2009, 03:16:16 AM »

Concerning re-issues of the albums: it would be a great chance to clean up the discography, cause it's total mess now with odds & ends scattered all over the place. If they would re-issue all the albums individually (not as 2fers, that is) and add all those odds & ends (B-sides, 2fer bonus tracks, some unreleased stuff, all the rarities from 'Endless Harmony', 'Hawthorne CA', 'Beach Boys Rarities' and the GV box set) to the albums they were recorded for, as bonus tracks... That would be fantastic. Imagine how great an expanded version of 'Sunflower' would be, for instance...

Hmmm... I have my doubts. I think the two-fers are generous, and sell for beer money, so: they're totally in the spirit of Brian. The early albums are, strictly speaking, collections with hits and filler tracks. They'd make rather thin material if released as one album per CD proper, even with bonus cuts. But you do have a point: the rarities are scattered all over and the collector has to fork out money for the same stuff over and over again. If your plan were realized, all of us here would have to invest on a large scale again (*...sigh...*). I myself would feel like I'd be investing money past my own passing away one day, and perhaps numerous items from your proposed catalogue would be still sealed on that sad day...
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« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2009, 04:22:27 AM »

They'd make rather thin material if released as one album per CD proper, even with bonus cuts.

There are lots of fairly easy ways to fill every album up to the maximum playing time. Include both the stereo and mono version of the album if available. And in addition to the outtakes, they could throw in some backing tracks, a capella and binaural mixes, live versions, recording sessions...
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I think that if every single album were to be re-released again that, perfectly reasonably, a lot of people would complain about fans being taken for a ride. There would be some great stuff there I`m sure but as it would cost hundreds of pounds/dollars not enough imo. I also doubt it would make anyone any money...

If there was to be a new album from the members then including a Dennis song and maybe something linked to Carl could be a nice idea. It`s a shame in a way that Soul Searchin` was wasted with the dire version on GIOMH...
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« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2009, 06:36:37 AM »

I think that if every single album were to be re-released again that, perfectly reasonably, a lot of people would complain about fans being taken for a ride.

I think the Beach Boys' albums deserve to be available individually, don't they?

And imagine, for instance, this being released on a CD with a nice LP replica sleeve:

01. Slip On Through
02. This Whole World
03. Add Some Music To Your Day
04. Got To Know The Woman
05. Deirdre
06. It's About Time
07. Tears In The Morning
08. All I Wanna Do
09. Forever
10. Our Sweet Love
11. At My Window
12. Cool, Cool Water
BONUS:
13. Break Away
14. Celebrate The News
15. Cotton Fields (single version)
16. Sound Of Free
17. Lady
18. San Miguel
19. Soulful Old Man Sunshine
20. Games Two Can Play
21. I Just Got My Pay
21. Over The Waves
22. Walkin'
23. What Can The Matter Be?
24. You Never Give Me Your Money
25. Forever (a capella)
26. Add Some Music To Your Day (a capella)
27. This Whole World (a capella)

Doesn't seem superfluous or a rip-off to me...
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