Question about SMiLE LP jackets (ones that got printed)

[runalot]

What's the deal with the printed (but never used) album jackets. The back has all the Beach Boys (minus Brian!?) in their normal pin-striped button shirts  (well, actually more like cross-hatch shirts... but you get my point. Didn't they get past this look 'ie Pet Sounds').

So, you mean to tell me Brian didn't want his photo to appear on this album? I find this strange considering he put his heart and soul into it (just like Pet Sounds).

What year were the SMiLE jackets printed out?

[I. Spaceman]

(well, actually more like cross-hatch shirts... but you get my point. Didn't they get past this look 'ie Pet Sounds').

Nope!!! They were striped until 1968! A big reason that people say an appearance at Monterey would have gone badly.

Brian approved the cover, so yes, it was with his consent.

1967! Early.

[runalot]

That's crazy! Why the heck didn't he want to be on the cover?

Strange. I mean, i know he didn't care about limelight... but a photo on a album cover never hurt anyone.

:/

[Billgoodman]

this was discussed before so this is not my idea,
but Brian had a 2 page photo of himself in the booklet
that's about as much limelight you need

[jabba2]

Whoever selected that album photo did a real good job. Too bad it was never released. Its timeless looking to me, im sure Brian approved because they dont look corny at all. Brian wasnt on the cover of 20/20 or Friends but is on Sunflower, maybe thats a decision Brian made.

Now the cover of Smile did look cheesy.

[Andrew G. Doe]

The photo was taken while the band was on tour. Hence no Brian.

The booklet orders were dated 12/8/66 (for LA, 100,000 copies) and 12/19/66 (Scranton, 300,000 copies). Both plants were required to deliver by the first week in January. There's also an 11/14/66 memo concerning a change to the front slick (from stereo to DuoPhonic). To the best of my knowledge, the back slick never progressed beyong an artists proof - apparently the version we know has, in its original state, notations indicating many changes.

[TV Forces]

Whoever selected that album photo did a real good job. Too bad it was never released. Its timeless looking to me, im sure Brian approved because they dont look corny at all. Brian wasnt on the cover of 20/20 or Friends but is on Sunflower, maybe thats a decision Brian made.

Now the cover of Smile did look cheesy.

Not an important point, but I think Brian IS pictured on the "Friends" cover.

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

To the best of my knowledge, the back slick never progressed beyong an artists proof - apparently the version we know has, in its original state, notations indicating many changes.

We need to get confirmation of this. Who was it who claimed to have seen this? I forget. Let's grill him and get someone to investigate this. Who would have the original proof? Capitol? The Art Department? Where's Jasper?

[Evenreven]

Brad Elliott claimed he had seen it, didn't he? But he's probably not the only one. Alan Boyd? Peter Reum?

[XY]

We need to get confirmation of this. Who was it who claimed to have seen this? I forget. Let's grill him and get someone to investigate this. Who would have the original proof? Capitol? The Art Department? Where's Jasper?

Hello.

[Peter Reum]

In the first place, there is no evidence covers were assembled. Second, I owner a proof of the back cover for years. A couple of other people do as well. I get tired of dealng with the same questions over and over. The cover was NEVER assembled, and the back cover was not completed. There is a cover for Lei'd in Hawaii, which WAS Brother 9002.

[I. Spaceman]

 

[Old Rake]

Okay, what was the cover for Lei'd In Hawaii? First time I've heard of that!

[Andrew G. Doe]

This one [waves sleeve].

Cool, huh ?

 

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

In the first place, there is no evidence covers were assembled. Second, I owner a proof of the back cover for years. A couple of other people do as well. I get tired of dealng with the same questions over and over. The cover was NEVER assembled, and the back cover was not completed.

Well, what did the hand written notes say? That's all I'm asking.

[Andrew G. Doe]

"You're fucking with the formula again, Brian"

[Bubba Ho-Tep]

Yeah, it was probably Mike's handwriting.



Cabinessence Wind Chimes Do You Like Worms
Barbara Ann (Live), I Get Around (Live), Papa Oom Mow Mow (Live)


Produced by Brian Wilson Brian & Mike (Watch for their new single, "Getting Hungry", coming soon!)

[Reverend Joshua Sloane]

 

[runalot]

Screw you guys. I'm looking back with Love.

 

[Daniel S.]

In the first place, there is no evidence covers were assembled.

What do you mean covers were not assembled? Do you mean the album jacket itself was not assembled? I thought they printed 400,000 SMiLE albums covers.

[harveyw]

In the first place, there is no evidence covers were assembled.

What do you mean covers were not assembled? Do you mean the album jacket itself was not assembled? I thought they printed 400,000 SMiLE albums covers.

I imagine what Peter means is that the front cover slicks were printed but never pasted onto the cardboard cover assembly. Which certainly makes sense if the rear slick design was never completed. Still means that somewhere, for some time, there were 400,000 unused Smile front slicks just sitting in a warehouse, waiting to be disposed of.

Makes you cry, doesn't it?

But Peter, tell us more about the Lei'd in Hawaii cover. AFAIK that's never been mentioned -much less seen- ....anywhere...

[Old Rake]

Bumping again, hoping for an answer about Lei'd In Hawaii.

Har har, Andrew, very funny.

[Aegir]

Yeah, it was probably Mike's handwriting.



Cabinessence Wind Chimes Do You Like Worms
Barbara Ann (Live), I Get Around (Live), Papa Oom Mow Mow (Live)


Produced by Brian Wilson Brian & Mike (Watch for their new single, "Getting Hungry", coming soon!)

You forgot Little Deuce Coupe!

[sugarandspice]

That's crazy! Why the heck didn't he want to be on the cover?

Strange. I mean, i know he didn't care about limelight... but a photo on a album cover never hurt anyone.

:/


Hes on all kinds covers, and no  a photoshoot never hurt no one, I think the music is what mattered most,  ( it could have been wrapped in  brown paper bag and it wouldnt have mattered) and he would have rather the rest of the beach boys get their time in the lime light for the work they did then himself....

[Andrew G. Doe]

That's crazy! Why the heck didn't he want to be on the cover?

Strange. I mean, i know he didn't care about limelight... but a photo on a album cover never hurt anyone.

:/


Hes on all kinds covers, and no  a photoshoot never hurt no one, I think the music is what mattered most,  ( it could have been wrapped in  brown paper bag and it wouldnt have mattered) and he would have rather the rest of the beach boys get their time in the lime light for the work they did then himself....

Hello ? Anyone listening out there ?

The back slick shot was taken when the band were on tour in 1966.

Brian wasn't touring in 1966.

Therefore, he wasn't in the picture.

Same reason that I'm not in Leonardo's 'Last Supper' - I wasn't there.