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Author Topic: How Will TLOS Chart? - UK And US  (Read 7848 times)
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« on: August 29, 2008, 03:41:13 PM »
I'm hoping, well praying for top 15 UK and US..

If that doesn't happen I will be slightly taken a back, but not devastated.


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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2008, 03:45:16 PM »
My guess: somewhere around #50 in the US and between #15 and #20 in the UK.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2008, 04:49:47 PM »
Quote from: shelter on August 29, 2008, 03:45:16 PM
My guess: somewhere around #50 in the US and between #15 and #20 in the UK.

That low..

After this promotion, that can't be an option.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2008, 06:37:31 PM »
I think I agree with Shelter.  No big deal, though. 
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« Reply #4 on: August 30, 2008, 04:00:46 AM »
Quote from: Wild_Honey-In_Stereo on August 29, 2008, 04:49:47 PM
That low..

After this promotion, that can't be an option.

Apart from Smile, no Brian Wilson solo album ever charted higher than #54 in the US (BW88) and #30 in the UK (Imagination). So #50 in the US and #15-20 in the UK would actually be pretty darn good.
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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2008, 05:59:36 AM »
My guess is about #40 US and maybe #20 UK.  Remember, it's not had 37-odd years of free advance publicity. Also, the year between UK live debut and studio release.
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« Reply #6 on: August 30, 2008, 01:02:10 PM »
What shelter said sounds pretty reasonable...Brian unfortunately just isn't one of those artists who can expect to have a huge hit at this late stage of his career, no matter how good the record is.

The promotion should help to some degree though.
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« Reply #7 on: August 30, 2008, 02:02:25 PM »
For an album without any major hit singles, made by a guy who's old enough to be the grandfather of most people you see on MTV nowadays, reaching the US top 50 would be a great accomplishment.
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« Reply #8 on: August 30, 2008, 02:23:10 PM »
BW has a certain amount of celebrity status in the US, but none in the UK, and I'd be seriously surprised if TLOS charted at all. The only reason Smile and Wonderful got on the charts was due to desperate (though perfectly legal) chart manipulation from Camp Melinda.
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« Reply #9 on: August 30, 2008, 02:31:47 PM »
Actually, haven't all of Brian's solo albums, not just Smile, done better in the UK?

I always thought he was more of a celebrity there.
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« Reply #10 on: August 30, 2008, 03:05:45 PM »
Quote from: claymcc on August 30, 2008, 02:31:47 PM
Actually, haven't all of Brian's solo albums, not just Smile, done better in the UK?

I always thought he was more of a celebrity there.

Brian Wilson: US #54, UK did not chart
I Just Wasn't Made for These Times: US did not chart, UK #59
Orange Crate Art: US did not chart, UK did not chart
Imagination: US #88, UK #30
Live at the Roxy Theatre: US did not chart, UK did not chart
Pet Sounds Live: US did not chart, UK did not chart
Gettin' In Over My Head: US #100, UK #53
Smile: US #13, UK #7
What I Really Want for Christmas: US #200, UK did not chart
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« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2008, 03:13:19 PM »
Quote from: brother john on August 30, 2008, 02:23:10 PM
BW has a certain amount of celebrity status in the US, but none in the UK, and I'd be seriously surprised if TLOS charted at all. The only reason Smile and Wonderful got on the charts was due to desperate (though perfectly legal) chart manipulation from Camp Melinda.

Funny - I was under the impression that BWPS charted in the UK because it sold enough copies to do just that. Certified gold over here, y'know, and that's an independant audit.
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« Reply #12 on: August 30, 2008, 08:45:46 PM »
You can call me crazy...

It's going to go Top 10 in either the UK or US (most likely UK.)
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« Reply #13 on: August 30, 2008, 09:11:34 PM »
Quote from: Wrightfan on August 30, 2008, 08:45:46 PM
You can call me crazy...

It's going to go Top 10 in either the UK or US (most likely UK.)

I certainly hope you're right...that would be a huge morale booster for Brian.  He may downplay it, but you know in the back of his mind he still wants everything he puts out to be a hit.  That 60's mentality ("go write a #1!) has to still be in there somewhere.
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« Reply #14 on: August 31, 2008, 02:05:27 AM »
My guess is #37 in the US, #12 in the UK, and #3 in Lithuania
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« Reply #15 on: August 31, 2008, 08:41:01 AM »
Quote from: brother john on August 30, 2008, 02:23:10 PM
BW has a certain amount of celebrity status in the US, but none in the UK, and I'd be seriously surprised if TLOS charted at all. The only reason Smile and Wonderful got on the charts was due to desperate (though perfectly legal) chart manipulation from Camp Melinda.

Brian is actually quite famous in the UK.

But I still think TLOS is gong to chart better in the US.

But that's just a shot in the dark.
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« Reply #16 on: August 31, 2008, 09:18:45 AM »
Quote from: Wild_Honey-In_Stereo on August 31, 2008, 08:41:01 AM
Brian is actually quite famous in the UK.

Yeah, Mojo for instance hardly ever seems to bring out in issue without any input from Brian... Whenever they have a special on any subject or another 'best of' list, it's almost a given that Brian is one of the celebrities that they've asked for an opinion or his favorite song by this or that artist...
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« Reply #17 on: August 31, 2008, 10:37:12 AM »

I'm a little pessimistic. Amazon UK has the standard TLOS CD currently at 251 in it's bestseller list and the CD/DVD combo version at 57. Presumbably folk here are pre ordering the latter first as it's a limited edition.

I would be surprised if it got into the Top 100 in the US but I expect it at least to get into the Top 40 in the UK. That's not great but not bad either.

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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2008, 07:06:54 PM »
For no reason I have had a look at what Frank Sinatra was doing at 66. He came up with this album.

http://rateyourmusic.com/release/album/frank_sinatra/she_shot_me_down/

I have no idea how it charted in 81 but I would think the target age group would be the same for Brian in 2008. Should be interesting to compare.
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2008, 07:19:46 PM »
I have that album. It blows chunks  LOL LOL
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