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« on: May 01, 2008, 08:20:27 AM »

I have seen something floating around the net claiming to be demos for TLOS.  The files are in FLAC format, so if I had them in my possession I would have no way to play them at this moment.  Has anyone heard of these "demos" and does anyone know what they are?
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« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2008, 08:32:04 AM »

They are just that - there's been discussion about them here and on other boards but much of it has been stopped.

There was an MP3 download available for just a few days on a Singapore website and since then a boot has been pressed. I think attention was drawn to it when someone began posting spoof jokey threads about bonus tracks, since said to be a red herring, but who knows.

But any mention of either online seems to be eradicated very quickly - I think Melinda's pulling out the stops to have this suffocated; God Only Knows how it came to be leaked but no doubt someone's had a surf board inserted where the California sun's never gonna shine.

The demos were superb quality, though the BBs' version of Can't Wait Too Long was used, a few vocals snippets are done by band members rather than Brian and there's the odd crude edit. Other than that it is STUNNING... or so I heard.

As AGD has reported elsewhere that recoding has started properly, you're probably as well awaiting for the finished product - on the strength of what was out there ever-so-briefly, it's going to be simply breathtaking.

And don't be surprised if this thread vanishes before long!
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« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2008, 08:40:49 AM »

Here's some artwork... I don't expect that'll be around long either.

http://www.giginjapan.com/scan145/brian-wilson-that.htm

Before you ask, I'm afraid I don't have a copy.
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« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2008, 08:51:33 AM »

This is the tracklist of another reputed bootleg - but the bonus tracks would surely make it a 2CD set, not a single (note that Lucky Old Sun is usually listed as tracks 1 & 2):

FROM THE ORIGINAL MASTER TAPES
That Lucky Old Sun
Morning Beat
Narrative: Room With A View
Good Kind Of Love
Forever She’ll Be My Surfer Girl
Narrative: Venice Beach
Live Let Live
Mexican Girl
Narrative: De Mayo
California Role
Narrative: Between Pictures
Oxygen To The Brain
Been Too Long
Midnight’s Another Day
That Lucky Old Sun
I’m Goin’ Home
Southern California

BONUS TRACKS (sources as identified by AGD over on the Shutdown message board -  thanks Andrew...)
ive Let Live - alternate version from Arctic Tale soundtrack
Speed Turtle - from CD included in kids book: not BW composition
What Love Can Do - from New Music From An Old Friend
God Only Knows - ditto
Heaven - from the Bloo
The Spirit Of Rock ‘n’ Roll - probably from the Hallmark CD Songs From Here & Back
You Are So Beautiful - from Carnie's lullabyes CD A Mother's Gift
Believe In Yourself - from the Duck Dodgers cartoon, also an ESQ CD Under God
Rodney On The ROQ - from the Mayor Of Sunset Strip soundtrack
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« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2008, 08:58:01 AM »

Thanks for the info.
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« Reply #5 on: May 01, 2008, 10:55:57 AM »

I've heard it. It's definitely genuine - about the same quality as the 2 demos on Brian's site last year.
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« Reply #6 on: May 01, 2008, 11:51:27 AM »

Dont know if that Melinda comment is true or not.. I do know that private emails flew back + forth + everyone decided NOT to talk about it,,,If Melinda is involved she has that right...It must be frustrating to keep new work private...We all know that doesnt happen..  And its gone on forever..BW is such a revered figure in music..The music is so geniune That the fans want everything ...!!!!!         BUT.. And a BIG BUT... Melinda must know anybody that has those..will.. STILL .. Buy the FINISHED product.... The true fans SUPPORT the music in all its forms..... But yes their privacy has been invaded...
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« Reply #7 on: May 01, 2008, 11:55:59 AM »

Speaking of the demos I saw this on the blueboard. Wonder if this is true or not. I kind of hope not  Angry

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You semed to be very dialed into the BW Camp. I heard from a friend in L.A. who works in the studio where TLOS was being recorded that The Band has offically changed? The Tastey Brothers are NO MORE?! Bob Lizik and Jim Hines are no longer in The Band?! Please say it isn't so?!

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« Reply #8 on: May 01, 2008, 11:56:44 AM »

I love that comment about inserting a surfboard ...Pure Genius..!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #9 on: May 01, 2008, 12:08:06 PM »

Dont know if that Melinda comment is true or not.. I do know that private emails flew back + forth + everyone decided NOT to talk about it,,,If Melinda is involved she has that right...It must be frustrating to keep new work private...We all know that doesnt happen..  And its gone on forever..BW is such a revered figure in music..The music is so geniune That the fans want everything ...!!!!!         BUT.. And a BIG BUT... Melinda must know anybody that has those..will.. STILL .. Buy the FINISHED product.... The true fans SUPPORT the music in all its forms..... But yes their privacy has been invaded...

Fully appreciate what you're saying Mr Wilson, which is why I'd not be upset if this thread went the way of the others.  And I can understand why Brian and/or Melinda (or who-ever) might not want demos in circulation -  if anyone saw what I'm working on right now, I'd never get another job in my life!
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« Reply #10 on: May 01, 2008, 12:21:49 PM »

Speaking of the demos I saw this on the blueboard. Wonder if this is true or not. I kind of hope not  Angry

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I don't think so. That rumour was also out a few years ago and nothing happened.
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« Reply #11 on: May 01, 2008, 01:32:44 PM »

I've heard them.

Simply stunning. Some of Brian's best solo work ever!

I can't wait till the official album comes out. It's mind boggling that this can sound even better.
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« Reply #12 on: May 01, 2008, 01:56:33 PM »

I've heard them.

Simply stunning. Some of Brian's best solo work ever!

I can't wait till the official album comes out. It's mind boggling that this can sound even better.

I think you're right! I'm hoping that the CWTL section will be expanded considerably or re-recorded as a bonus track, hopefully in the way Brian intended back in the '60s, with lyrics, as TLOS will make for a short CD album in itself.
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« Reply #13 on: May 01, 2008, 02:02:56 PM »

I've heard them.

Simply stunning. Some of Brian's best solo work ever!

I can't wait till the official album comes out. It's mind boggling that this can sound even better.

I think you're right! I'm hoping that the CWTL section will be expanded considerably or re-recorded as a bonus track, hopefully in the way Brian intended back in the '60s, with lyrics, as TLOS will make for a short CD album in itself.

Sorry for my ignorance, what's CWTL stand for?
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« Reply #14 on: May 01, 2008, 02:17:28 PM »

Can't Wait Too Long,

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Been Way Too Long
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« Reply #15 on: May 01, 2008, 02:28:43 PM »

God Only Knows how it came to be leaked but no doubt someone's had a surf board inserted where the California sun's never gonna shine.
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« Reply #16 on: May 01, 2008, 02:41:48 PM »

Well, Jimmy Hines wasn't in the band originally -- that was Todd Sucherman (now Mr. Taylor Mills).  Todd played most of the drums on the GIOMH album, and he seems to be close to Scotty Bennett (they co-produced Taylor's solo CD), so he might be on the album. Who knows? As for Bob Lizik, he seems like one of the less critical members of the band -- but that's just my opinion.
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« Reply #17 on: May 01, 2008, 04:11:02 PM »

Can't Wait Too Long,

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Been Way Too Long

Doh! Should've known that.
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« Reply #18 on: May 01, 2008, 04:44:25 PM »

I've been lucky enough to hear the demos, (though only a couple of times because I don't want to spoil the real thing) and they are good, some better than others, while some of the instruments sound a little MIDI-ish to me - particularly the title track.  But what do we expect - they are demos.

That said, when fully produced I expect TLOS to be a great triumph for Mr Wilson...the demos show the potential...and with the full orchestrations from the live shows I don't think I have looked forward to the release of (m)any albums more than this (I missed the SMiLE anticipation).
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« Reply #19 on: May 01, 2008, 06:07:57 PM »

while some of the instruments sound a little MIDI-ish to me

I think there is a good reason for that.
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