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My absolute favourite version of Darlin is from this show! Carl is awsome as always!
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My absolute favourite version of Darlin is from this show! Carl is awsome as always!
Yeah, that is a great version. I really don't understand all the complaints about this show. Dennis looks wrecked? Well, what did you expect, it's 1980. I think he looks fine, he's into it most of the time, "Elton John eat your heart out!" Brian isn't too bad for the time, at least he looks interested SOME of the time. Carl, Mike and Al are solidly professional, but I still don't know if Bruce really plays that keyboard or not - can't distinguish it in the mix.
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The auto tune is unnecessary... the raw tapes sound better
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The auto tune is unnecessary... the raw tapes sound better
Robo-Mike on "be true to your school" comes to mind....
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on March 31, 2012, 12:59:13 AM
Quote from: Jimmie_R on October 18, 2011, 10:56:59 AM
My absolute favourite version of Darlin is from this show! Carl is awsome as always!
Yeah, that is a great version. I really don't understand all the complaints about this show. Dennis looks wrecked? Well, what did you expect, it's 1980. I think he looks fine, he's into it most of the time, "Elton John eat your heart out!" Brian isn't too bad for the time, at least he looks interested SOME of the time. Carl, Mike and Al are solidly professional, but I still don't know if Bruce really plays that keyboard or not - can't distinguish it in the mix.
I think Bruce's keyboard is turned on at least some of the time... You can hear him playing support keys on You Are So Beautiful and Brian does for some reason, venture over to Bruce's keyboard for Help Me Rhonda (Al sidles over and ask him if he's alright!) .... so, I think it's at least plugged in
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Quote from: efloW hcaZ on March 07, 2013, 02:51:05 PM
Much like Al's guitar, what else is new? Once they started adding a wall of musicians beyond them, Al's guitar and Bruce's keys vanished into audio hell.
Yeah, at least Dennis' drums and Carl's guitar can be heard!
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I Love this DVD..! 5/5.. All the things people complained about at this juncture were perfectly normal for a BB show.. At this time there were some warts but wonderful warts.. Nothing here seems abnormal to me ..I do wish they had left the rest of the songs in the video.. Maybe im to easy on them because ive loved them for so long.. That might be the case but its to late now for me to be to critical .. So glad they finally released this.. It gets played a lot..
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I love and miss Dennis' drumming for The Beach Boys.....
an 'oompth' no one else can seem to do....
I think its a great period piece...... but not the best show to 'market' to BB folks...
there has to be better shows in the archive to represent The Beach Boys....
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on March 31, 2012, 12:59:13 AM
Quote from: Jimmie_R on October 18, 2011, 10:56:59 AM
My absolute favourite version of Darlin is from this show! Carl is awsome as always!
Yeah, that is a great version. I really don't understand all the complaints about this show. Dennis looks wrecked? Well, what did you expect, it's 1980. I think he looks fine, he's into it most of the time, "Elton John eat your heart out!" Brian isn't too bad for the time, at least he looks interested SOME of the time. Carl, Mike and Al are solidly professional, but I still don't know if Bruce really plays that keyboard or not - can't distinguish it in the mix.
I think Bruce's keyboard is turned on at least some of the time... You can hear him playing support keys on You Are So Beautiful and Brian does for some reason, venture over to Bruce's keyboard for Help Me Rhonda (Al sidles over and ask him if he's alright!) .... so, I think it's at least plugged in
And he also played it on "I write the songs". Its not included in the dvd or cd, but it was part of the show and there's a good recording available.
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on March 31, 2012, 12:59:13 AM
Quote from: Jimmie_R on October 18, 2011, 10:56:59 AM
My absolute favourite version of Darlin is from this show! Carl is awsome as always!
Yeah, that is a great version. I really don't understand all the complaints about this show. Dennis looks wrecked? Well, what did you expect, it's 1980. I think he looks fine, he's into it most of the time, "Elton John eat your heart out!" Brian isn't too bad for the time, at least he looks interested SOME of the time. Carl, Mike and Al are solidly professional, but I still don't know if Bruce really plays that keyboard or not - can't distinguish it in the mix.
I think Bruce's keyboard is turned on at least some of the time... You can hear him playing support keys on You Are So Beautiful and Brian does for some reason, venture over to Bruce's keyboard for Help Me Rhonda (Al sidles over and ask him if he's alright!) .... so, I think it's at least plugged in
And he also played it on "I write the songs". Its not included in the dvd or cd, but it was part of the show and there's a good recording available.
I knew I write the Songs was performed along with Some of Your Love, Santa Ana Winds, and Good Timin' were all performed; why weren't they included if they were gonna fix things with auto tuning? The only thing I know is Brian messes up a small part of the lyrics to Good Timin. Anyone else have an idea?
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Quote from: Jimmie_R on October 18, 2011, 10:56:59 AM
My absolute favourite version of Darlin is from this show! Carl is awsome as always!
Yeah, that is a great version. I really don't understand all the complaints about this show. Dennis looks wrecked? Well, what did you expect, it's 1980. I think he looks fine, he's into it most of the time, "Elton John eat your heart out!" Brian isn't too bad for the time, at least he looks interested SOME of the time. Carl, Mike and Al are solidly professional, but I still don't know if Bruce really plays that keyboard or not - can't distinguish it in the mix.
I think Bruce's keyboard is turned on at least some of the time... You can hear him playing support keys on You Are So Beautiful and Brian does for some reason, venture over to Bruce's keyboard for Help Me Rhonda (Al sidles over and ask him if he's alright!) .... so, I think it's at least plugged in
And he also played it on "I write the songs". Its not included in the dvd or cd, but it was part of the show and there's a good recording available.
I knew I write the Songs was performed along with Some of Your Love, Santa Ana Winds, and Good Timin' were all performed; why weren't they included if they were gonna fix things with auto tuning? The only thing I know is Brian messes up a small part of the lyrics to Good Timin. Anyone else have an idea?
According to Alan Boyd, "Santa Ana Winds" wasn't included because it was sparesly rehearsed, with Al and Bruce reading the lyrics from a piece of paper, Brian and Carl unsure how to perform the song and the lack of a bass instrument. Other songs including "Wouldn't It Be Nice", "In My Room", "Catch A Wave", and "Good Timin'" were omitted because of sub-par performances and the need to keep the film within the 70-75 DVD minute limit.
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This concert deserves a multi-camera angle release, enabling the viewer to choose which band member to focus on during a particular song.
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This concert deserves a multi-camera angle release, enabling the viewer to choose which band member to focus on during a particular song.
That could be interesting - Brian may have been sleeping during much of it
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Quote from: metal flake paint on December 06, 2013, 09:46:27 PM
This concert deserves a multi-camera angle release, enabling the viewer to choose which band member to focus on during a particular song.
That could be interesting - Brian may have been sleeping during much of it
You get to see what Brian does when he goes back stage during Heroes and Villains.
Btw Metal Flake, what's your source on the Alan Boyd statement? I wanna read!
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on December 06, 2013, 10:02:57 PM
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This concert deserves a multi-camera angle release, enabling the viewer to choose which band member to focus on during a particular song.
That could be interesting - Brian may have been sleeping during much of it
You get to see what Brian does when he goes back stage during Heroes and Villains.
Btw Metal Flake, what's your source on the Alan Boyd statement? I wanna read!
They are notes I took of Alan's forum posts at the time (circa 2006) regarding the Knebworth concert.
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I just love this show! I think they sound and look great. I'll give the only con for Brian being so invicible and singing a lead only couple times. Dennis is the best, Carl comes second, Mike is great and Bruce is just useless. My favorite cuts are Keepin' the summer alive, Surfer girl, You are so beautiful and Fun, fun, fun. Especially Fun, fun, fun rocks harder than ever. Wish I could've been there. If there's more filmed shows from 1980, and I bet there is, they all should be released in good quality. What the hell happened to them later, in '83 they sound and look so tired?
Edit: Looks like I forgot Al completely
Well he's great as always of course. Does a great job with Cotton Fields/Heroes and Villains.
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4.5 rounded up to 5. Mike's robot was ok but very nasal. Sounds like they're having lots of fun. The DON'T PANIC sign is funny.
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I just love this show! I think they sound and look great. I'll give the only con for Brian being so invicible and singing a lead only couple times. Dennis is the best, Carl comes second, Mike is great and Bruce is just useless. My favorite cuts are Keepin' the summer alive, Surfer girl, You are so beautiful and Fun, fun, fun. Especially Fun, fun, fun rocks harder than ever. Wish I could've been there. If there's more filmed shows from 1980, and I bet there is, they all should be released in good quality. What the hell happened to them later, in '83 they sound and look so tired?
Dennis was in pretty bad shape by 1983, that may have had something to do with it.
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Just watched this again, amazing what some people notice, like Brian leaving the stage during Heroes and Villains. Most of the show, the cameras are not on him, it's easy to forget he is there, except for his solos on Surfer Girl and Sloop John B. He seems pretty 'into' Keep the Summer Alive and Help Me Rhonda. I did notice Dennis clowning with Mike during Surfer Girl, they sure didn't look like guys that were mortal enemies. And I did hear Bruce's keyboard during You Are So Beautiful. Carl smiles several times during the show, appears to be having a great time. Amazing how much energy Dennis put into his drumming, I noticed too that he plays what I would call an 'open hand' style on the drums. I guess I had noticed it before but never thought about it. I wonder who taught him how to play drums? I'm very thankful to have a video of this tour; anytime I see Brian, Bruce, Dennis, Carl, Al and Mike together, it is good.
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Quote from: Lonely Summer on June 22, 2016, 09:44:48 PM
Just watched this again, amazing what some people notice, like Brian leaving the stage during Heroes and Villains. Most of the show, the cameras are not on him, it's easy to forget he is there, except for his solos on Surfer Girl and Sloop John B. He seems pretty 'into' Keep the Summer Alive and Help Me Rhonda. I did notice Dennis clowning with Mike during Surfer Girl, they sure didn't look like guys that were mortal enemies. And I did hear Bruce's keyboard during You Are So Beautiful. Carl smiles several times during the show, appears to be having a great time. Amazing how much energy Dennis put into his drumming, I noticed too that he plays what I would call an 'open hand' style on the drums. I guess I had noticed it before but never thought about it. I wonder who taught him how to play drums? I'm very thankful to have a video of this tour; anytime I see Brian, Bruce, Dennis, Carl, Al and Mike together, it is good.
From a historical standpoint, this DVD is absolutely essential. Plus, you get the footage of Carl singing GOK that The Beach Boys have been using in concert for a few years.
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Both the Knebworth and DC 1980 shows are very solid shows, better than I think some folks give them credit for.
It wasn't their peak or anything, but it was SIX BBs on stage with only *three* (or four at Knebworth) backing guys.
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Both the Knebworth and DC 1980 shows are very solid shows, better than I think some folks give them credit for.
It wasn't their peak or anything, but it was SIX BBs on stage with only *three* (or four at Knebworth) backing guys.
I need to watch the DC show. I know it's on youtube, and I used to see clips from it on tv, but never watched it all the way through.
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Quote from: HeyJude on June 23, 2016, 09:36:13 AM
Both the Knebworth and DC 1980 shows are very solid shows, better than I think some folks give them credit for.
It wasn't their peak or anything, but it was SIX BBs on stage with only *three* (or four at Knebworth) backing guys.
I need to watch the DC show. I know it's on youtube, and I used to see clips from it on tv, but never watched it all the way through.
If you like the Knebworth show, then you'll dig the DC show. It's very, very similar (some would argue redundantly so). The shows were only two weeks apart. Similar setlists (I think the only songs unique to the hour-long DC video are "Good Timin'" and "Catch a Wave"), relatively similar performances. Dennis is still solid, though with less spark than the Knebworth show. On the other hand, the DC performance of "Keepin' the Summer Alive" is superior.
I have an officially released DVD of the DC show; it was released in Japan as "A Celebration Concert" first in the olden days on VHS (and maybe laserdisc) and then again briefly on DVD in 1997. It was a pretty obscure release, during the early days of DVD. I only managed to track a copy down when I was able to pay for it by having a fan in France buy a Japanese import. I then had to procure a region-free DVD player (the DVD is NTSC, but Region 2).
Here are a couple of pics of the Japanese DVD:
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My absolute favourite version of Darlin is from this show! Carl is awsome as always!
Yeah, that is a great version. I really don't understand all the complaints about this show. Dennis looks wrecked? Well, what did you expect, it's 1980. I think he looks fine, he's into it most of the time, "Elton John eat your heart out!" Brian isn't too bad for the time, at least he looks interested SOME of the time. Carl, Mike and Al are solidly professional, but I still don't know if Bruce really plays that keyboard or not - can't distinguish it in the mix.
I think Bruce's keyboard is turned on at least some of the time... You can hear him playing support keys on You Are So Beautiful and Brian does for some reason, venture over to Bruce's keyboard for Help Me Rhonda (Al sidles over and ask him if he's alright!) .... so, I think it's at least plugged in
And he also played it on "I write the songs". Its not included in the dvd or cd, but it was part of the show and there's a good recording available.
I knew I write the Songs was performed along with Some of Your Love, Santa Ana Winds, and Good Timin' were all performed; why weren't they included if they were gonna fix things with auto tuning? The only thing I know is Brian messes up a small part of the lyrics to Good Timin. Anyone else have an idea?
According to Alan Boyd, "Santa Ana Winds" wasn't included because it was sparesly rehearsed, with Al and Bruce reading the lyrics from a piece of paper, Brian and Carl unsure how to perform the song and the lack of a bass instrument. Other songs including "Wouldn't It Be Nice", "In My Room", "Catch A Wave", and "Good Timin'" were omitted because of sub-par performances and the need to keep the film within the 70-75 DVD minute limit.
Of interest, 'Santa Ana Winds' was included in the set as a request from Roger Scott at Londons Capital Radio (who indeed sponsored the show).
Roger played the single a lot on Capital Radio, as did Steve Wright at BBC Radio 1 (who still plays it some 36 years later on BBC Radio 2).
I was there, and certainly remember Bruce holding the lyric sheet for Al to sing 'Santa'
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