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« on: December 25, 2007, 10:05:08 PM » |
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The most honest Brian production in many years. Was it because he felt loose and at home with the Wrecking Crew?
I would love to hear a whole album of that kind of stuff from Brian.
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« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2007, 03:55:01 AM » |
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Awesome stuff ! One of my favorite Brian tracks ever ! Don't know nothing about the studio musicians though. Was it the wrecking crew? This is another collaboration with Paley and just imagine the Beach Boys on this track. Carl and Al in the background would've sounded from outtathisworld.
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2007, 05:02:35 AM » |
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Wrecking crew? I thought he did this one with Andy Paley - with whom he did, indeed, feel at home and comfortable...
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2007, 06:38:39 AM » |
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Yes, it was with what was left of the Wrecking Crew at the time. I remember Carol Kaye talking about the sessions. Her trademark bass is unmistakable in that song.
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2007, 05:52:00 PM » |
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Yes, it was with what was left of the Wrecking Crew at the time. I remember Carol Kaye talking about the sessions. Her trademark bass is unmistakable in that song.
Nope its mostly Brian and Andy no wrecking crew that I can recall on that one, and I don't believe Carol played on any of the tracks that Brian and Andy cut around 1995- 96. We did have Frank Maraco and Tommy Morgan in for some songs, however.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2007, 06:25:21 PM » |
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For someone who wasn't there, Carol sure knew a lot about the session. It was a long time ago - maybe my memory is faulty. Maybe she was just a visitor. That track sure sounds Wrecking Crew to me (very much like Brian's 1965 work) and I haven't heard anything else from Brian that sounds like that since he worked with the Wrecking Crew. None of the other Paley stuff sounds like it, either.
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« Reply #6 on: December 27, 2007, 06:47:51 PM » |
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For someone who wasn't there, Carol sure knew a lot about the session. It was a long time ago - maybe my memory is faulty. Maybe she was just a visitor. That track sure sounds Wrecking Crew to me (very much like Brian's 1965 work) and I haven't heard anything else from Brian that sounds like that since he worked with the Wrecking Crew. None of the other Paley stuff sounds like it, either.
I think Brian's engineer would know. You might want to believe him.
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« Reply #7 on: December 27, 2007, 08:48:33 PM » |
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Carol has a habit of saying she was on sessions that she wasn't. Maybe this is such a case?
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2007, 02:43:54 PM » |
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Carol did play on the original track of Everything I Need (along with Hal Blaine). This Song.... comes from the sessions with Andy Paley. Andy is a master at replicating the 1965-66 Brian/BB sound as all of the tracks that have emerged from those sessions prove. Also check out the Songebob Squarepants song "The Best Day Ever" for a wondrous slice of Paley-penned Brian Pop. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHcRd5hhN88
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2007, 04:08:57 PM » |
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Carol has a habit of saying she was on sessions that she wasn't. Maybe this is such a case?
If so, that would just be weird. The song isn't even released so if she's blatantly making it up then that would be strange because wouldn't she atleast make up something like "I played on Love And Mercy" or something. Atleast the song is released and more famous. But then again I highly doubt she mentioned this song at all. Why would she? Maby donutbandit, you are just getting mixed up with another song?
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2007, 06:38:18 PM » |
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The song isn't even released... Er....yes it was. Wasn't it on a movie soundtrack or something?
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« Reply #11 on: December 28, 2007, 07:38:03 PM » |
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It was a B-Side in Europe to the Do It Again remake from IJWMFTT.
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« Reply #12 on: December 28, 2007, 11:15:28 PM » |
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Carol made a post on the Spectropop mailing list about the track as if she and the remaining Wrecking Crew were there. She even gushed about Brian having found "a new way to sing." I remember it clearly. These days, I have trouble remembering what happened yesterday, but I remember that quite well.
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« Reply #13 on: December 28, 2007, 11:26:45 PM » |
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For someone who wasn't there, Carol sure knew a lot about the session. It was a long time ago - maybe my memory is faulty. Maybe she was just a visitor. That track sure sounds Wrecking Crew to me (very much like Brian's 1965 work) and I haven't heard anything else from Brian that sounds like that since he worked with the Wrecking Crew. None of the other Paley stuff sounds like it, either.
I think Brian's engineer would know. You might want to believe him. Seconded. As is well known, I've had disagreements with both Mark & Carol over the years, and patched things up with one of them. I strongly suspect that Carol is misremembering the "Everything I Need" session. I have nothing but respect for her musical achievements, but her memory is on occaision suspect. And of course, then there's the Motown nonsense...
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« Reply #14 on: December 29, 2007, 03:47:37 AM » |
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The song isn't even released... Er....yes it was. Wasn't it on a movie soundtrack or something? Okay my mistake. UK discography always catches me out. I get confused when things are released in the UK and aren't in the US
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« Reply #15 on: December 29, 2007, 06:15:40 AM » |
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UK discography always catches me out. I get confused when things are released in the UK and aren't in the US
Consider yourself uncaught out. http://www.btinternet.com/~bellagio/ukdiscog.html
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« Reply #16 on: December 29, 2007, 06:31:44 AM » |
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Thanks Andrew. I forget to check your site.. Well not really forget but more just partly because of laziness but mostly because I think "well I KNOW this off the top of my head".. maby it would help to look things up once in a while 
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« Reply #17 on: December 29, 2007, 09:05:58 AM » |
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I dug out the tracksheet for the song and there is no indication that Carol played on the track or that it was recored elsewhere. It looks like Andy played bass and 6 string bass on it , and I believe the start date listed for the song is 8-4-94.
I'm guessing that Carol has mixed up the songs and is referring to the session for "Everything I Need" which was cut at Oceanway with a bunch of the Wrecking Crew players. I didn't engineer that one so I can't tell you who played on the date.
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« Reply #18 on: December 29, 2007, 10:35:57 AM » |
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According to the credits on The Wilsons, the Crew musicians were:
piano - Brian electric bass - Carol Kaye drums/percussion - Hal Blaine accordion - Frank Marocco harmonica - Tommy Morgan sax - Jay Migliori
plus of course, a busload of current studio cats, but I'm guessing that the above and maybe one or two others, played on the basic session.
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