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Chris Brown
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September 11, 2007, 08:21:52 PM »
In Brian's "autobiography" he talks about being attracted to all three sisters initially, and continuing to be attracted to Diane for several years during his marriage to Marilyn. And it is believed that Brian did have an affair with Diane at some point (hence "My Diane"). The fact that Marilyn stayed with Brian for as long as she did still amazes me...I think it speaks to how much she really did love him. A lot of wives probably would have bailed much earlier.
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September 11, 2007, 11:02:28 PM »
They seperated in 1978. It seems that through the sixties and early seventies they were a good match, but when Brian began to seriously decline in 1973 I think is when his marriage really fell apart. I don't know if you would ever have called their marriage "normal" but it was pretty good by rock star or Brian Wison standards.
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Just to turn the tables a bit, I think that just as Melinda has been critical of the way Marilyn "handled" Brian, Marilyn has been critical (perhaps less outwardly) of the way Melinda handles Brian. I think they have two different philosophies, which kind of reflect the contrasting philosophies the fans have... In the A&E bio,Marilyn basically said that Brian has worked hard enough (and this was in 1998 or 1999) and he should be allowed to relax and take it easy. Carnie has expressed similar views. And I wonder if, in the late 60s and the 70s, Marilyn had this same view or if she prodded him about working harder-- and how this may or may not have affected Brian's behavior.
Melinda, on the other hand,. feels that Brian should be encouraged to work, presumably because when it works (as with BWPS and TLOS), it's a huge confidence booster for Brian and it helps keep him out of an emotional rut.
So I think there's that conflict there between the two wives.
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Quote from: sherryluvsbrian on September 11, 2007, 04:13:55 PM
He even wanted to sleep with diane rovell, marilyn and diane stopped talking for awhile because of it. Remember this is just what some say, we really don't know for sure.
This 'we' does - back in the 80s I asked Diane if the tales about her and Brian's, um, 'involvement' were true, and she said they were. Marilyn, sitting by her side, nodded in agreement.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on September 12, 2007, 09:09:30 AM
Quote from: sherryluvsbrian on September 11, 2007, 04:13:55 PM
He even wanted to sleep with diane rovell, marilyn and diane stopped talking for awhile because of it. Remember this is just what some say, we really don't know for sure.
This 'we' does - back in the 80s I asked Diane if the tales about her and Brian's, um, 'involvement' were true, and she said they were. Marilyn, sitting by her side, nodded in agreement.
Andrew, you've got cojones!
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I read in one of the books that shortly after Brian and Marilyn were married, Brian experimented with LSD, and, I'm paraphrasing Marilyn, "Brian was never the same again." Didn't she also kick him out for awhile and he came back crying to her? That would've been 1965.
I know I read that Brian's posse and hanger-ons caused a lot of grief for Marilyn starting with Smile in 1966, with the drugs flying pretty heavily and Brian beginning his vampire-like hours.
1965-66 would've been the early years of the marriage. So, again, I wonder if they were EVER happily married?
Regarding the Marilyn-Brian-Diane triangle...They must be bigger persons than me. If my husband slept with my sister, I don't know if I could stay married to him or stand on stage and sing "Shoot The Curl" with her...
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sherryluvsbrian
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on September 12, 2007, 09:09:30 AM
Quote from: sherryluvsbrian on September 11, 2007, 04:13:55 PM
He even wanted to sleep with diane rovell, marilyn and diane stopped talking for awhile because of it. Remember this is just what some say, we really don't know for sure.
This 'we' does - back in the 80s I asked Diane if the tales about her and Brian's, um, 'involvement' were true, and she said they were. Marilyn, sitting by her side, nodded in agreement.
We all know now for sure. Brian was a man whore.
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September 12, 2007, 02:11:09 PM »
Perhaps the years in which the babies were born were the happiest.
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September 12, 2007, 04:21:49 PM »
Always bear this in mind - when Marilyn married Brian she was two months shy of her 17th birthday.
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September 12, 2007, 04:55:04 PM »
That's actually not unique in rock history. Robert Plant did the same thing, having an affair with his first wife's sister while still married to his first wife. It even appalled his bandmates, and Led Zep was not exactly a conservative group.
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Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on September 12, 2007, 04:21:49 PM
Always bear this in mind - when Marilyn married Brian she was two months shy of her 17th birthday.
I thought she was 15 when they married and 14 when they met.
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September 12, 2007, 08:47:55 PM »
He also moved in with the family when she was very young. Very broad-minded parents for the mid sixties.
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September 12, 2007, 09:44:43 PM »
I think the Marilyn/Brian marriage is well documented. Just listen to Brian's songs!
Marilyn left Brian after he tried to feed young Carnie with a drug. They decided to make this public - we can only speculate what else happened in the Wilson household around that time.
"My Diane" - since Dennis sang it, couldn't it be a song about Marilyn? B wrote a couple of songs about M around that time.
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Quote from: sherryluvsbrian on September 12, 2007, 07:54:01 PM
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on September 12, 2007, 04:21:49 PM
Always bear this in mind - when Marilyn married Brian she was two months shy of her 17th birthday.
I thought she was 15 when they married and 14 when they met.
Sigh... Marilyn was born 2/8/48, the wedding was 12/7/64 - do the math. They met 10/62, in Pandora's Box. But then I've only asked her myself and done the research, so how much would I know ?
I don't make this stuff up, you know, although sometime I think I might as well...
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Quote from: Jasper on September 12, 2007, 09:44:43 PM
"My Diane" - since Dennis sang it, couldn't it be a song about Marilyn?
My question to Diane in 1983 was this - "Is "My Diane" really about the end of the relationship between you and Brian ?" She said "Yes". Marilyn nodded. Ginger smiled. The guy interviewing them with me nearly fell off his chair. Of course, they could have been misleading me, but i don't think so.
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September 13, 2007, 12:09:45 AM »
You do the math for me andrew, you know more about the wilson's than i do.
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Quote from: TheOther Anonymous on September 12, 2007, 08:47:55 PM
He also moved in with the family when she was very young. Very broad-minded parents for the mid sixties.
I never came across parents like that. My dad would have beat a older man for getting close to me.
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Quote from: sherryluvsbrian on September 13, 2007, 12:09:45 AM
You do the math for me andrew, you know more about the wilson's than i do.
Patently.
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September 13, 2007, 02:20:05 PM »
Quote from: Andrew G. Doe on September 13, 2007, 12:44:30 AM
Quote from: sherryluvsbrian on September 13, 2007, 12:09:45 AM
You do the math for me andrew, you know more about the wilson's than i do.
Patently.
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