J Reily

[thomasogg]

Just curious, but i understand Jack Reily was answering questions on Surf's Up on the site some time ago.. How can i go about taking a look at the discussion that took place? Is it still on here? Cheers!

[Dancing Bear]

The archive:

http://www.smileysmile.net/index.php/jack_rieley_speaks_part_one

and so on...

The thread:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,3019.0.html

[MBE]

Take what he says with a grain or two of salt.

[Dancing Bear]

Yeah. Jack talks and talks about how he fought the axis of evil Jardine-Love-Johnston, but at the peak of his influence (Surf's Up) we have two Wilsons knocking heads about track sequencing, Dennis pulling his tracks and the highest percentage ever of Jardine-Love-Johnston material in a Beach Boy album between 68 and 73.

[phirnis]

The dildo story he told about Brian is truly beyond bizarre.

[punkinhead]

what story is that?

[endofposts]

what story is that?

Well, if you didn't wade through all that material to find that nugget, maybe no one should tell you!

I haven't read it in some time, but I think the story went that Brian felt inadequate about his size, so to speak, so he once stuffed a big dildo in his pants to look big.  Jack was embarrassed that Brian was walking around like that in front of his daughters.  I'm sure Brian wasn't the only rock star to try that stunt, but it was a little odd that he was doing it offstage.

[the captain]

The archive:

http://www.smileysmile.net/index.php/jack_rieley_speaks_part_one

That was great to read. Thanks for that.

[MBE]

Jack's story
About that time Brian began talking in detail about a massage parlour in West Hollywood and one of the girls who worked there. At first he spoke only of going there for massages. Some days later he began going on and on about the masseuse who he said was turning him on. He was hot for Marcella. One day I arrived at Bellagio to find him showing off a dildo. He needed the dildo, he said, to impress Marcella. His dick was too small, he protested, so he needed the dildo to show off. It was not the first nor the last time that Brian devoted hours to discussing his sexual insecurities. The fact that he had given birth to two girls was, he said, proof that Murry was right: Brian wasn't a real man. Murry fathered three boys, Carl had one and another was on the way, Dennis had fathered boys. But he, Brian, could only father girls. The conversations went on for hours at a time. Then there came the day I was in his living room with Carnie and Wendy when Brian strode in, a huge dildo protruding from beneath his jeans. I was repulsed as Brian caused Carnie to come over to him while he talked about the dildo. When I chided Brian, he reacted by telling his daughters, "Carnie, Wendy... I'm not your father." Soon I evacuated the kids to the garden.

The only thing I could think of to quell Brian's fixation was to channel it. Thus it was I who suggested Marcella as the title for a tune Brian had been working on. With my promise to write the Marcella lyric, he jumped into the project with immense enthusiasm. Brian, Carl, Desper and I worked hard on that record. Dennis helped too. The zither was a cool idea but it was mixed poorly. My lyric was minor... efficient at best.

On the night we finished the mix, Love came by to give it a listen. He stood in the corner of the control booth behind the mixing counsel as the tape rolled. Rather than really listening to the music we had created, Love began rehearsing his stage moves. He acted out "One arm over my shoulder" by placing his right arm over his left shoulder. "Sandals dance at my feet" had him pointing the index fingers of both hands to downward. "Eyes that'll knock you right over" found him sailing his hands from the side of his head on a downlward arc. And on "Ooh Marcella so sweet" he cradled his crossed arms and rocked them a bit. I nearly got ill.

More as soon as I have a chance.

[pixletwin]

That last paragraph, MBE, is hilarious. 

As for Brian... He was one screwy duck. 

[matt-zeus]

Another vintage odd tale from Beach Boys land, but then Brian was mad! - and so was Mr. Love!

There really needs to be a Beach Boys sitcom...

[MBE]

Yeah I know I can picture both of them doing it. They were both nuts (in an endearing way), but again Rieley seems to embelish his stories a little.

[phirnis]

Talking about Rieley, has anyone ever heard the Western Justice album? I'd like to but really couldn't find it anywhere.

[punkinhead]

ive heard a couple of songs from it, i find it enjoyable

[MBE]

It's pretty good but not essential.

[smile-holland]

Talking about Rieley, has anyone ever heard the Western Justice album? I'd like to but really couldn't find it anywhere.

it was rereleased on cd. Here's the website: http://www.western-justice.com/
One can also order there: don't know the price, I got it for discount (€5,-), but that probably won't be the case here...

[Rocker]

On the night we finished the mix, Love came by to give it a listen. He stood in the corner of the control booth behind the mixing counsel as the tape rolled. Rather than really listening to the music we had created, Love began rehearsing his stage moves. He acted out "One arm over my shoulder" by placing his right arm over his left shoulder. "Sandals dance at my feet" had him pointing the index fingers of both hands to downward. "Eyes that'll knock you right over" found him sailing his hands from the side of his head on a downlward arc. And on "Ooh Marcella so sweet" he cradled his crossed arms and rocked them a bit. I nearly got ill.

Sounds like Brian's moves nowadays on that song.  But anyway, at least he's playing that great song live....

[phirnis]

Talking about Rieley, has anyone ever heard the Western Justice album? I'd like to but really couldn't find it anywhere.

it was rereleased on cd. Here's the website: http://www.western-justice.com/
One can also order there: don't know the price, I got it for discount (€5,-), but that probably won't be the case here...

Thanks a lot. Being a big Holland fan, I'm probably going to check it out.
Jack Reiley by the way looked just about exactly how I'd imagined him to. Too bad there's no movie clips of the BB in Holland on that site.

[shelter]

Jack's story

(...)

If someone does something like that, it's obvious that he has some mental problems. I think this is just a bit too embarrassing and painful to pass as just an anecdote. I think that mr. Rieley should keep stories like this one to himself.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Jack's story

(...)

If someone does something like that, it's obvious that he has some mental problems. I think this is just a bit too embarrassing and painful to pass as just an anecdote. I think that mr. Rieley should keep stories like this one to himself.

If, indeed, it ever happened. Granted, she has a slight vested interest, but Marilyn, how can I put this, is no great fan of Jack's, and just about everyone I've spoken to in the BB circle has expressed reservations about his versions of what happened 1970-73.