The Smiley Smile Message Board
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
If you like this message board, please help with the hosting costs!
682514
Posts in
27726
Topics by
4096
Members - Latest Member:
MrSunshine
May 13, 2025, 11:32:25 AM
The Smiley Smile Message Board
|
Smiley Smile Stuff
|
General On Topic Discussions
|
Career mishaps??
0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.
« previous
next »
Pages:
[
1
]
2
3
Author
Topic: Career mishaps?? (Read 19826 times)
feelintheflows
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 139
Career mishaps??
«
on:
April 15, 2019, 05:23:31 PM »
What mistakes have The Beach Boys made in their careers?
Logged
Crack Smokerson
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 37
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #1 on:
April 15, 2019, 06:47:06 PM »
Brian hasn't made a mistake yet, in his whole career.
Logged
The poster formerly known as stack-o-tracks
Rebel
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 148
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #2 on:
April 15, 2019, 07:58:18 PM »
We’re still waiting for Brian to make a mistake.
Logged
jiggy22
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 449
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #3 on:
April 16, 2019, 12:36:38 PM »
Too many to count
. Releasing Ten Little Indians as a single instead of Chug-a-Lug
. Brian becoming acquaintances with Loren Daro
. Brian taping over the master tapes of The Little Girl I Once Knew with Row Row Row Your Boat
. Pulling out of the Monterey Pop Festival
. Not releasing new material for eight months after the release of Good Vibrations
. Brian spending too much time on the Heroes and Villains single and letting SMiLE die as a result
. Releasing Then I Kissed Her as a single in April 1967
. Not releasing Vega-Tables as a single
. Releasing Gettin' Hungry as a single
. Releasing Smiley Smile as the follow-up to Pet Sounds
. Not releasing Lei'd in Hawaii
. Releasing Bluebirds Over the Mountain as a single
. Not releasing Can't Wait Too Long as a single in 1968
. Brian not hiring a lawyer before signing over Sea of Tunes to Murry
. Releasing Add Some Music to Your Day as the lead debut single of their Reprise career
. Releasing Cool Cool Water as a single, with It's About Time as the b-side
. Releasing Slip on Through as a single, with This Whole World as the b-side
. Not including Fourth of July and (Wouldn't it Be Nice) To Live Again on the Surf's Up album
. Including Take a Load Off Your Feet on the Surf's Up album
. Not realizing Mt. Vernon and Fairway (A Fairy Tale) to its full potential
. Releasing Child of Winter as a single two days before Christmas
. Not releasing Good Timin' in early 1975
. Releasing 15 Big Ones as the follow-up to Holland
. Releasing Susie Cincinnati as the b-side to three singles, before including it AGAIN on 15 Big Ones
. Releasing It's OK, a sure summer hit, in late August 1976
. Releasing Honkin' Down the Highway as the lead single off of Love You
. Not releasing Adult/Child
. Only including one track from Adult/Child on the MIU Album
. Including Hey Little Tomboy on the MIU Album
. Releasing MIU Album as the follow-up to Love You
. Rejecting Constant Companion for LA (Light Album)
. Including Here Comes the Night on LA (Light Album)
. Not releasing the Curt Boettcher mix of Shortenin' Bread as a single
. Everything about the year 1981
. Releasing It's OK AGAIN as the b-side to It's Gettin' Late in 1985
. Allowing the 1995 reunion album to die
. Little-to-no marketing for the recent copyright extension releases
Logged
Do happy happy happy Mission Pak singing sound!
My blog, where I post my original Beach Boys mixes and whatnot:
http://www.jiggy22.blogspot.com
chewy
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 129
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #4 on:
April 16, 2019, 01:11:11 PM »
Constant Companion was considered for Light Album? wow!
Logged
feelintheflows
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 139
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #5 on:
April 16, 2019, 01:18:59 PM »
Quote from: jiggy22 on April 16, 2019, 12:36:38 PM
Too many to count
. Releasing Ten Little Indians as a single instead of Chug-a-Lug
. Brian becoming acquaintances with Loren Daro
. Brian taping over the master tapes of The Little Girl I Once Knew with Row Row Row Your Boat
. Pulling out of the Monterey Pop Festival
. Not releasing new material for eight months after the release of Good Vibrations
. Brian spending too much time on the Heroes and Villains single and letting SMiLE die as a result
. Releasing Then I Kissed Her as a single in April 1967
. Not releasing Vega-Tables as a single
. Releasing Gettin' Hungry as a single
. Releasing Smiley Smile as the follow-up to Pet Sounds
. Not releasing Lei'd in Hawaii
. Releasing Bluebirds Over the Mountain as a single
. Not releasing Can't Wait Too Long as a single in 1968
. Brian not hiring a lawyer before signing over Sea of Tunes to Murry
. Releasing Add Some Music to Your Day as the lead debut single of their Reprise career
. Releasing Cool Cool Water as a single, with It's About Time as the b-side
. Releasing Slip on Through as a single, with This Whole World as the b-side
. Not including Fourth of July and (Wouldn't it Be Nice) To Live Again on the Surf's Up album
. Including Take a Load Off Your Feet on the Surf's Up album
. Not realizing Mt. Vernon and Fairway (A Fairy Tale) to its full potential
. Releasing Child of Winter as a single two days before Christmas
. Not releasing Good Timin' in early 1975
. Releasing 15 Big Ones as the follow-up to Holland
. Releasing Susie Cincinnati as the b-side to three singles, before including it AGAIN on 15 Big Ones
. Releasing It's OK, a sure summer hit, in late August 1976
. Releasing Honkin' Down the Highway as the lead single off of Love You
. Not releasing Adult/Child
. Only including one track from Adult/Child on the MIU Album
. Including Hey Little Tomboy on the MIU Album
. Releasing MIU Album as the follow-up to Love You
. Rejecting Constant Companion for LA (Light Album)
. Including Here Comes the Night on LA (Light Album)
. Not releasing the Curt Boettcher mix of Shortenin' Bread as a single
. Everything about the year 1981
. Releasing It's OK AGAIN as the b-side to It's Gettin' Late in 1985
. Allowing the 1995 reunion album to die
. Little-to-no marketing for the recent copyright extension releases
Don’t forget releasing best of The Beach Boys 6 weeks after Pet Sounds, and Endless Summer yes technically those are capitols fault, releasing here comes the night disco version. Wipe Out with the fat boys, beach boys medley. Not releasing California Calling as a single, Fun fun fun with status quo. Summer in paradise john stamos forever and Stars and Stripes vol 1. Not releasing the Friends and 20/20 sessions on cd. Not releasing so much vast concerts from 68-74 on cd/dvd.
«
Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 01:21:57 PM by feelintheflows
»
Logged
SMiLE-addict
Smiley Smile Associate
Online
Gender:
Posts: 897
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #6 on:
April 16, 2019, 03:35:11 PM »
Does Dennis meeting Charles Manson count as a career mistake?
At the very least I suppose you could say they should not have released, let alone altered, his song.
«
Last Edit: April 16, 2019, 03:35:51 PM by SMiLE-addict
»
Logged
feelintheflows
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 139
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #7 on:
April 16, 2019, 04:21:29 PM »
Quote from: SMiLE-addict on April 16, 2019, 03:35:11 PM
Does Dennis meeting Charles Manson count as a career mistake?
At the very least I suppose you could say they should not have released, let alone altered, his song.
Personally I think that made The Beach Boys saga more intriguing. The all American golden boys of summer crossing paths with evil. Fascinating.
Logged
Custom Machine
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 1295
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #8 on:
April 16, 2019, 11:03:03 PM »
Quote from: jiggy22 on April 16, 2019, 12:36:38 PM
. Releasing Cool Cool Water as a single, with It's About Time as the b-side
Good list of missteps. Just for the record, Forever was the b-side of single edit of Cool Cool Water, with the promo copies going out to radio stations containing only Cool Cool Water, in mono on one side and stereo on the other, so there was no chance for DJ's to flip the single over to Forever, which, IMO, had a much great chance of getting Top 40 radio airplay.
Logged
Jay
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5992
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #9 on:
April 17, 2019, 01:58:46 AM »
I think that not releasing a live album between L.A. and KTSU was a missed opportunity. I think having an album with good quality live versions of "Angel Come Home", "Roller Skating Child", and even "Shortnin' Bread" would have perhaps improved the overall reputation of those albums. It also would have bought them time to really focus on the best quality material for the next studio album.
On a more controversial note, I think perhaps not breaking up as a group after Holland might have been a poor choice in retrospect, considering how things quickly fell apart after they changed managers. I think that their output after Pet Sounds would have eventually attained cult classic status, and they may well be much more respected today.
Logged
A son of anarchy surrounded by the hierarchy.
guitarfool2002
Global Moderator
Offline
Posts: 10100
"Barba non facit aliam historici"
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #10 on:
April 17, 2019, 07:19:36 AM »
Mike's decision not to continue making music and performing with the C50 lineup, latter part of 2012. The band was on fire and in demand for the first time in ages, having scored a top-5 album of original music and one of the most acclaimed tours of that year, and Mike chose to walk away. It's right up there on the "what could've been" list from the band's entire career.
Logged
"All of us have the privilege of making music that helps and heals - to make music that makes people happier, stronger, and kinder. Don't forget: Music is God's voice." - Brian Wilson
southbay
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1483
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #11 on:
April 17, 2019, 08:52:21 AM »
Carl and Al not pairing up to steer the direction of the band away from Mike's control upon Carl's return in 1982 (or at any point prior to Carl's passing)
«
Last Edit: April 17, 2019, 08:53:54 AM by southbay
»
Logged
Summer's gone...it's finally sinking in
The LEGENDARY OSD
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 1950
luHv Estrangement Syndrome. It's a great thing!
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #12 on:
April 17, 2019, 11:31:32 AM »
The last two posts, one by GF and the other by Southbay-
Logged
myKe luHv, the most hated, embarrassing clown the world of music has ever witnessed.
Rob Dean
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 958
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #13 on:
April 18, 2019, 06:53:07 AM »
Quote from: Crack Smokerson on April 15, 2019, 06:47:06 PM
Brian hasn't made a mistake yet, in his whole career.
Really , Getting In Over My Head makes Summer In Paradise a stone wall classic album
Logged
Awesoman
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 1840
Disagreements? Work 'em out.
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #14 on:
April 18, 2019, 06:59:20 AM »
They've made quite a few mistakes. Not completing
SMiLE
at the time was one of their biggest. Obviously with BW's mental status at the time, it was the appropriate thing to abort it, but man it would have been nice to have an original completed album to listen to instead of the glossy 2004 version or the fragmented (but beautiful) 2011 box set.
And you could argue quite a few mistakes were made during the mid-70's and onwards.
Logged
And if you don't know where you're going
Any road will take you there
Jim V.
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 3049
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #15 on:
April 18, 2019, 07:49:42 AM »
Quote from: jiggy22 on April 16, 2019, 12:36:38 PM
Not releasing the Curt Boettcher mix of Shortenin' Bread as a single
What about this? I know nothing of it.
Logged
Gettin Hungry
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 174
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #16 on:
April 18, 2019, 10:09:45 AM »
Quote from: jiggy22 on April 16, 2019, 12:36:38 PM
Too many to count
...
.
Releasing Gettin' Hungry as a single
...
Hey!
Logged
Pretty Funky
Smiley Smile Associate
Online
Posts: 5889
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #17 on:
April 18, 2019, 03:47:15 PM »
Quote from: guitarfool2002 on April 17, 2019, 07:19:36 AM
Mike's decision not to continue making music and performing with the C50 lineup, latter part of 2012. The band was on fire and in demand for the first time in ages, having scored a top-5 album of original music and one of the most acclaimed tours of that year, and Mike chose to walk away. It's right up there on the "what could've been" list from the band's entire career.
That’s probably indicative of their career in general. Grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory.
Sticking to the topic and the year, not managing to produce a decent live album or live DVD of the C50 despite having 70 plus performances to choose from. (The Chiba performance achieved both a great TV record and soundtrack in a week.)
Logged
All Summer Long
Smiley Smile Associate
Online
Gender:
Posts: 572
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #18 on:
April 18, 2019, 06:51:09 PM »
Quote from: Jim V. on April 18, 2019, 07:49:42 AM
Quote from: jiggy22 on April 16, 2019, 12:36:38 PM
Not releasing the Curt Boettcher mix of Shortenin' Bread as a single
What about this? I know nothing of it.
Same. I tried to look it up and couldn’t find anything on YouTube, and only one passing reference to an unreleased mix on Wikipedia.
Logged
Crack Smokerson
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 37
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #19 on:
April 18, 2019, 11:05:24 PM »
Quote from: Rob Dean on April 18, 2019, 06:53:07 AM
Quote from: Crack Smokerson on April 15, 2019, 06:47:06 PM
Brian hasn't made a mistake yet, in his whole career.
Really , Getting In Over My Head makes Summer In Paradise a stone wall classic album
Oi, it's a joke. A reference to the final track off The Beach Boys Today! album...
Logged
The poster formerly known as stack-o-tracks
Jay
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 5992
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #20 on:
April 18, 2019, 11:52:05 PM »
Jiggy made a point of referencing the 1995/96 projected as one of the mishaps, and I couldn't agree more. A Beach Boys version of "Gettin' In Over My Head" could possibly have been another "God Only Knows". I can clearly hear in my head a Pet Sounds sounding version of the song with an Al, Bruce, and Carl "vocal round" fading out the song. Pair that with songs like "It's Not Easy Being Me", "Still A Mystery" and "Soul Searchin'" and it just might have been the best Beach Boys album since Sunflower.
Logged
A son of anarchy surrounded by the hierarchy.
Margarita
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 183
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #21 on:
April 19, 2019, 09:59:44 AM »
How about having little to no licensed merchandise, outside of concerts or promo materials? When I was a teen in the 80s, I would have killed to have a BB t-shirt, poster, buttons, patches, etc. Even now, it bugs me to go into a store and find merch for lots of bands, but never anything Beach Boys.
Logged
But she's still dancing in the night unafraid of what a dude'll do in a town full of Heroes and Villains...
Matt H
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 1300
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #22 on:
April 19, 2019, 10:45:53 AM »
Quote from: Margarita on April 19, 2019, 09:59:44 AM
How about having little to no licensed merchandise, outside of concerts or promo materials? When I was a teen in the 80s, I would have killed to have a BB t-shirt, poster, buttons, patches, etc. Even now, it bugs me to go into a store and find merch for lots of bands, but never anything Beach Boys.
I agree, and I would also say that for the most part, a lot of their merchandise has not been very good. One that I do really like is:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwiR9uj_2tzhAhWD2FkKHaNBDAkQjRx6BAgBEAU&url=https%3A%2F%2Fplanetrock.backstreetmerch.com%2Fartist%2Fbeach-boys%2Ft-shirts%2Fbest-of-ss&psig=AOvVaw0TItLoFcPvD0NH8xbiZ2IY&ust=1555782327768134
Logged
feelintheflows
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Posts: 139
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #23 on:
April 19, 2019, 03:10:07 PM »
Quote from: Margarita on April 19, 2019, 09:59:44 AM
How about having little to no licensed merchandise, outside of concerts or promo materials? When I was a teen in the 80s, I would have killed to have a BB t-shirt, poster, buttons, patches, etc. Even now, it bugs me to go into a store and find merch for lots of bands, but never anything Beach Boys.
I’ve been saying that for years. Ever since Mcfarlane Toys put out the rock star action figures in 2001, Jim Morrison, The Beatles etc The Beach Boys would have been great. The iconic striped shirt action figures. I saw a beach boys t shirt a year or so ago at the mall, Black shirt... It was horrible. It’s unfortunate they never tried to merchandise themselves. Try doing what the Grateful Dead does.. RELEASE EVERYTHING
Logged
Robbie Mac
Smiley Smile Associate
Offline
Gender:
Posts: 899
Carl Wilson is not amused.
Re: Career mishaps??
«
Reply #24 on:
April 19, 2019, 08:27:13 PM »
Quote from: guitarfool2002 on April 17, 2019, 07:19:36 AM
Mike's decision not to continue making music and performing with the C50 lineup, latter part of 2012. The band was on fire and in demand for the first time in ages, having scored a top-5 album of original music and one of the most acclaimed tours of that year, and Mike chose to walk away. It's right up there on the "what could've been" list from the band's entire career.
This.
This was redemption for everyone involved and Mike decided, “nah.”
Logged
The world could come together as one
If everybody under the sun
Adds some 🎼 to your day
Pages:
[
1
]
2
3
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
Smiley Smile Stuff
-----------------------------
=> BRIAN WILSON Q & A
=> Welcome to the Smiley Smile board
=> General On Topic Discussions
===> Ask The Honored Guests
===> Smiley Smile Reference Threads
=> Smile Sessions Box Set (2011)
=> The Beach Boys Media
=> Concert Reviews
=> Album, Book and Video Reviews And Discussions
===> 1960's Beach Boys Albums
===> 1970's Beach Boys Albums
===> 1980's Beach Boys Albums
===> 1990's Beach Boys Albums
===> 21st Century Beach Boys Albums
===> Brian Wilson Solo Albums
===> Other Solo Albums
===> Produced by or otherwise related to
===> Tribute Albums
===> DVDs and Videos
===> Book Reviews
===> 'Rank the Tracks'
===> Polls
-----------------------------
Non Smiley Smile Stuff
-----------------------------
=> General Music Discussion
=> General Entertainment Thread
=> Smiley Smilers Who Make Music
=> The Sandbox
Powered by SMF 1.1.21
|
SMF © 2015, Simple Machines
Page created in 1.571 seconds with 22 queries.
Helios Multi
design by
Bloc
Loading...