So according to Mike, the reason he ended the reunion...

[Jim V.]

...seems to be because he says Melinda sent an email saying "no more dates for Wilson" or whatever (which we already knew) and then, most likely most importantly, Mike felt Melinda had disrespected him during rehearsals and also during the during.

So first about the email. As I said, we knew this. What we didn't know, however, there was a later email withdrawing that statement which Mike said was then "too late" for whatever reason. Why it would be "too late" is beyond me. Cuz they were selling tickets for Mike's watered down version of the group? So what?

About Melinda getting in little beefs with Mike? Well that's another issue. Did she step outside of what her role should have been? I'm not sure. But at the same time somebody needed to speak for Brian and his interests and perhaps Brian had Melinda say things to Mike that he might not wanna say. Of course Mike would never consider that because everybody but him controls Brian, whereas he has his best interests at heart.

Also, he makes a lot of the fact that he was in charge of the touring while Brian was in charge of the studio, but then proceeds to whine all about how unfair it was that he didn't get to write with Brian the way he wanted to. And mocking the five writers of "Isn't It Time" is pretty rich coming from the guy who touts "Kokomo" every minute of the day. Say Doctor Love, how many co-writers were there on your favorite Beach Boys tune? Four? Five? Oh that one's okay though, cuz you say so! Sure Mikey! He also whined about how Melinda butted in on the tour stuff. Which yeah, okay, he's the guy in charge of the tour stuff. But if he has the right to complain about studio stuff, doesn't Brian (via Melinda) have the right to complain about what Mike wants for the tour stuff? So I would think.

Now it's lame that I even have to say this, but I think Mike Love is a good singer and a good songwriter. I am definitely so happy for all the great vocals and lyrics he's provided over the years. But his insistence on always being the poor little victim sometimes leads him to contradict himself or just make himself look full of sh*t. Sorry.

Posted this on the other site too, interested to hear what everyone says.

[orange22]

Is this from an interview?

[Jim V.]

Is this from an interview?

The book. I don't have it yet, but I've read previews online.

[CenturyDeprived]

...seems to be because he says Melinda sent an email saying "no more dates for Wilson" or whatever (which we already knew) and then, most likely most importantly, Mike felt Melinda had disrespected him during rehearsals and also during the during.

So first about the email. As I said, we knew this. What we didn't know, however, there was a later email withdrawing that statement which Mike said was then "too late" for whatever reason. Why it would be "too late" is beyond me.  

Didn't Mike ever hear Denny's song "It's Not Too Late"? It wasn't too late.

Again, just a lame excuse. If Mike was promised in writing a personal Grammy just for him, or some other carrot of industry respect, he'd gladly have made sure to cancel all of those M&B gigs. It's just about what he prioritizes. I can understand that he was upset with Melinda, and perhaps she made him feel like absolute crap, but again, no understanding of the idea of someone playing defense for Brian. Not every 75 year old guy likes to be put in their place by a woman, either; maybe that had something to do with it. I doubt that Melinda acted in a way that Mike perceived as rude out of the blue without prior provocation, like watching Mike mime a shotgun blast to the head when talking about Brian's most sensitive material on the new album.

[NOLA BB Fan]

Did it have to end this way? Could they have continued?
Okay, I'm not an insider, but looking from the outside, couldn't the group agree to end the 2012 tour on a certain date, allowing the various parties to tour the rest of the time on their own ,then make arrangements to do it again in 2013? Set a definite schedule, keep to it, allowing the rest of the year for other touring.
I don't think it would have been confusing to the public if the concerts were publicized correctly. Many fans of the Beach Boys' music don't even know much about who is/was in the band. Those in the know hopefully would be able to tell the difference between the Original Beach Boys group and the Mike/Bruce band.
Ticked off at both sides - why couldn't they actually TALK to each other instead of via email, press releases, letters to the editor etc.
Wasn't a member of any BBs boards in 2012, so didn't know better, and freaked when I read that Mike "fired" Brian. How could he kick out Brian, of all people?! I was furious! Of course, much later I found out that he wasn't fired.But the damage was done, ruining what should have been a joyous occasion.

I do believe that Melinda was acting in what she thought was Brian's best interest in requesting that the tour would end, as it seemed like he was a little slow at first working up enthusiasm for touring. But one can tell that over time he actually came to enjoy the shows so that's probably why Melinda did the follow up email. But it didn't have to be all or nothing. It could have ended for a while, then resumed.

[Robbie Mac]

...seems to be because he says Melinda sent an email saying "no more dates for Wilson" or whatever (which we already knew) and then, most likely most importantly, Mike felt Melinda had disrespected him during rehearsals and also during the during.

So first about the email. As I said, we knew this. What we didn't know, however, there was a later email withdrawing that statement which Mike said was then "too late" for whatever reason. Why it would be "too late" is beyond me. Cuz they were selling tickets for Mike's watered down version of the group? So what? So one of the most important groups of all time couldn't continue their reunion so some dumb f*** in Shitholeville, USA could see Scott Totten feel up a cheerleader as she's "playing his guitar"? Right.

About Melinda getting in little beefs with Mike? Well that's another issue. Did she step outside of what her role should have been? I'm not sure. But at the same time somebody needed to speak for Brian and his interests and perhaps Brian had Melinda say things to Mike that he might not wanna say. Of course Mike would never consider that because everybody but him controls Brian, whereas he has his best interests at heart.

Also, he makes a lot of the fact that he was in charge of the touring while Brian was in charge of the studio, but then proceeds to whine all about how unfair it was that he didn't get to write with Brian the way he wanted to. And mocking the five writers of "Isn't It Time" is pretty rich coming from the guy who touts "Kokomo" every minute of the day. Say Doctor Love, how many co-writers were there on your favorite Beach Boys tune? Four? Five? Oh that one's okay though, cuz you say so! Sure Mikey! He also whined about how Melinda butted in on the tour stuff. Which yeah, okay, he's the guy in charge of the tour stuff. But if he has the right to complain about studio stuff, doesn't Brian (via Melinda) have the right to complain about what Mike wants for the tour stuff? So I would think.

Now it's lame that I even have to say this, but I think Mike Love is a good singer and a good songwriter. I am definitely so happy for all the great vocals and lyrics he's provided over the years. But his insistence on always being the poor little victim sometimes leads him to contradict himself or just make himself look full of sh*t. Sorry.

Posted this on the other site too, interested to hear what everyone says.

They''ll probably ban you.

[Robbie Mac]

I am convinced that Mike never really wanted to do the tour (and maybe even the album) in the first place. He always had the most to lose meaning giving the public a taste of the Real BB would now take the shine off of his band and his shows (which depended on making sure that the BB were a faceless band).

[SurfRiderHawaii]

I may be wrong but it was my understanding that after the "no more dates email", Brian changed his mind and they added aid did a bunch of more dates.

Seems like the people advising Trump are also advising the Lovester.

[Debbie KL]

...seems to be because he says Melinda sent an email saying "no more dates for Wilson" or whatever (which we already knew) and then, most likely most importantly, Mike felt Melinda had disrespected him during rehearsals and also during the during.

So first about the email. As I said, we knew this. What we didn't know, however, there was a later email withdrawing that statement which Mike said was then "too late" for whatever reason. Why it would be "too late" is beyond me. Cuz they were selling tickets for Mike's watered down version of the group? So what? So one of the most important groups of all time couldn't continue their reunion so some dumb f*** in Shitholeville, USA could see Scott Totten feel up a cheerleader as she's "playing his guitar"? Right.

About Melinda getting in little beefs with Mike? Well that's another issue. Did she step outside of what her role should have been? I'm not sure. But at the same time somebody needed to speak for Brian and his interests and perhaps Brian had Melinda say things to Mike that he might not wanna say. Of course Mike would never consider that because everybody but him controls Brian, whereas he has his best interests at heart.

Also, he makes a lot of the fact that he was in charge of the touring while Brian was in charge of the studio, but then proceeds to whine all about how unfair it was that he didn't get to write with Brian the way he wanted to. And mocking the five writers of "Isn't It Time" is pretty rich coming from the guy who touts "Kokomo" every minute of the day. Say Doctor Love, how many co-writers were there on your favorite Beach Boys tune? Four? Five? Oh that one's okay though, cuz you say so! Sure Mikey! He also whined about how Melinda butted in on the tour stuff. Which yeah, okay, he's the guy in charge of the tour stuff. But if he has the right to complain about studio stuff, doesn't Brian (via Melinda) have the right to complain about what Mike wants for the tour stuff? So I would think.

Now it's lame that I even have to say this, but I think Mike Love is a good singer and a good songwriter. I am definitely so happy for all the great vocals and lyrics he's provided over the years. But his insistence on always being the poor little victim sometimes leads him to contradict himself or just make himself look full of sh*t. Sorry.

Posted this on the other site too, interested to hear what everyone says.

Okay, I've sent my share of emails over the years, and never would I have sent such a 5-word email without some sort of context that never seems to be provided.  I've had people in Mike's camp try to sell this silly thing to me, and when I ask the question about the context for it, what provoked it, whatever; I never get any kind of response. Did this book offer any clarification?

If not, I think it's fairly safe to assume why Brian has never responded to this bizarre, nonsensical leak:  Such talk would be a violation of BRI confidentiality.  It's possible that leaking that email through Mike's underage kid was genius of a sort, in that no one was likely to sue and anyone challenging a child would be considered a bad person.  Then again, t's awful in another sense, I'm thinking.  

If the full explanation isn't in that book, then there is no way to make any logic of this email claim, as there's a lack of any information for us to understand why such an email might exist.  I have to wonder who had the most to gain from all this.

I can speculate too.  The famous email might be seen as a simplistic excuse to end a highly successful tour with all the living band members and to continue to tour under the BBs' name with much bigger profits going to a single member with a license.  There seemed to be a large number of "misguided" promoters who also seemed to miss the fact that it was a different band for several years after the 2012 tour.  Brian's and Al's photos showed up in promo stuff on quite a few occasions.  It may have all been innocent and the ignorance of the promoters.  Like I said, this is all speculation.  I have no proof.  Just like that lone email proves nothing.

I'm thinking my speculation is as good as anyone else's about all this unless we have some tangible facts.  I don't expect them to be forthcoming, unless someone has seen Mike's book and it's all enlightened now.

[Cyncie]

He also whined about how Melinda butted in on the tour stuff. Which yeah, okay, he's the guy in charge of the tour stuff. But if he has the right to complain about studio stuff, doesn't Brian (via Melinda) have the right to complain about what Mike wants for the tour stuff? So I would think.

Two words… John Stamos

[Ang Jones]

...seems to be because he says Melinda sent an email saying "no more dates for Wilson" or whatever (which we already knew) and then, most likely most importantly, Mike felt Melinda had disrespected him during rehearsals and also during the during.

So first about the email. As I said, we knew this. What we didn't know, however, there was a later email withdrawing that statement which Mike said was then "too late" for whatever reason. Why it would be "too late" is beyond me. Cuz they were selling tickets for Mike's watered down version of the group? So what? So one of the most important groups of all time couldn't continue their reunion so some dumb f*** in Shitholeville, USA could see Scott Totten feel up a cheerleader as she's "playing his guitar"? Right.

About Melinda getting in little beefs with Mike? Well that's another issue. Did she step outside of what her role should have been? I'm not sure. But at the same time somebody needed to speak for Brian and his interests and perhaps Brian had Melinda say things to Mike that he might not wanna say. Of course Mike would never consider that because everybody but him controls Brian, whereas he has his best interests at heart.

Also, he makes a lot of the fact that he was in charge of the touring while Brian was in charge of the studio, but then proceeds to whine all about how unfair it was that he didn't get to write with Brian the way he wanted to. And mocking the five writers of "Isn't It Time" is pretty rich coming from the guy who touts "Kokomo" every minute of the day. Say Doctor Love, how many co-writers were there on your favorite Beach Boys tune? Four? Five? Oh that one's okay though, cuz you say so! Sure Mikey! He also whined about how Melinda butted in on the tour stuff. Which yeah, okay, he's the guy in charge of the tour stuff. But if he has the right to complain about studio stuff, doesn't Brian (via Melinda) have the right to complain about what Mike wants for the tour stuff? So I would think.

Now it's lame that I even have to say this, but I think Mike Love is a good singer and a good songwriter. I am definitely so happy for all the great vocals and lyrics he's provided over the years. But his insistence on always being the poor little victim sometimes leads him to contradict himself or just make himself look full of sh*t. Sorry.

Posted this on the other site too, interested to hear what everyone says.

Okay, I've sent my share of emails over the years, and never would I have sent such a 5-word email without some sort of context that never seems to be provided.  I've had people in Mike's camp try to sell this silly thing to me, and when I ask the question about the context for it, what provoked it, whatever; I never get any kind of response. Did this book offer any clarification?

If not, I think it's fairly safe to assume why Brian has never responded to this bizarre, nonsensical leak:  Such talk would be a violation of BRI confidentiality.  It's possible that leaking that email through Mike's underage kid was genius of a sort, in that no one was likely to sue and anyone challenging a child would be considered a bad person.  Then again, t's awful in another sense, I'm thinking.  

If the full explanation isn't in that book, then there is no way to make any logic of this email claim, as there's a lack of any information for us to understand why such an email might exist.  I have to wonder who had the most to gain from all this.

I can speculate too.  The famous email might be seen as a simplistic excuse to end a highly successful tour with all the living band members and to continue to tour under the BBs' name with much bigger profits going to a single member with a license.  There seemed to be a large number of "misguided" promoters who also seemed to miss the fact that it was a different band for several years after the 2012 tour.  Brian's and Al's photos showed up in promo stuff on quite a few occasions.  It may have all been innocent and the ignorance of the promoters.  Like I said, this is all speculation.  I have no proof.  Just like that lone email proves nothing.

I'm thinking my speculation is as good as anyone else's about all this unless we have some tangible facts.  I don't expect them to be forthcoming, unless someone has seen Mike's book and it's all enlightened now.

Good points and I agree that it seems possible, perhaps even likely, that there is more to it. What clinches that suspicion for me is that Mike made too many excuses. There was the one about over exposure - laughable, given the number of shows he does. Citing an Eagles show and the poor ticket prices was really shooting himself in the foot too, as the show took place in 1975 and included the Beach Boys - it was the Wembley show with an audience of about 70,000. The Eagles management responded to his comments less than politely! Then there was the one about his M&B tour. And how Mike had wanted to be able to write with Brian and wasn't given the opportunity. Then his daughter came out with the one about the shady people surrounding Brian. Was the email from Melinda sent without any provocation? It would be nice, as Debbie has commented, to have some context.

My suspicion is that whether or not Mike was annoyed with Melinda interfering in the tour side of things, one of the things Mike really did not like was witnessing the level of applause for Brian every night. It is clear from his interviews that Mike is jealous of Brian - were he less nasty about it, one could feel some sympathy but bringing up Brian's use of drugs every chance he gets, and the litigation, has become seriously tiresome. I reckon his jealousy is probably the real reason he wanted to call a halt to the C50 in the way that he did.

[Dave in KC]

Ding Ding  We have a winner!

[Lee Marshall]

Yep...Ang nailed it in paragraph 2.  THAT'S almost entirely it.  Mike is always the big kahuna with the mini/reasonable facsimile tours.  He's not about to SHARE let alone lose his artificial stature.  Not after all these decades of believing that he's WAY more important than he truly ever was.  He's come to believe ALL of the bull poop which festoons his booklette.

Melinda on the other hand?  If she had no time for the likes of that 'tonic seller' Landy, saw through all of that shyte, gathered evidence and  made sure that 'it' was dealt with it...why, then, would she sit idly by and simply watch another 'pretender' give her man anything less than the respect he both earned and deserves?  The only handling which seems to have taken place was that a spouse was 'there' for her spouse.  WE WOULD ALL want that for ourselves.  [Unless you go through wives like they're a dime a dozen.]

[Pretty Funky]

I think Brian wearing the same shirt as Mike during one gig was the final straw myself.

[Ang Jones]

Yep...Ang nailed it in paragraph 2.  THAT'S almost entirely it.  Mike is always the big kahuna with the mini/reasonable facsimile tours.  He's not about to SHARE let alone lose his artificial stature.  Not after all these decades of believing that he's WAY more important than he truly ever was.  He's come to believe ALL of the bull poop which festoons his booklette.

Melinda on the other hand?  If she had no time for the likes of that 'tonic seller' Landy, saw through all of that shyte, gathered evidence and  made sure that 'it' was dealt with it...why, then, would she sit idly by and simply watch another 'pretender' give her man anything less than the respect he both earned and deserves?  The only handling which seems to have taken place was that a spouse was 'there' for her spouse.  WE WOULD ALL want that for ourselves.  [Unless you go through wives like they're a dime a dozen.]

Thanks Dave in KC and Add Some but I can't take much credit for deciding Mike chose to end the C50 this way out of jealousy. It's something that has been said and written before by quite a few people, including Add Some and myself. It's so obvious that surely only perhaps Mike and some of his more obsessed fans could possibly fail to consider it. Or perhaps they do and pile the other excuses on top of it to disguise the truth.

Melinda comes in for a lot of flak but she has got Brian's back and I respect her for it. Add Some is right - she could no more allow Mike to be less than respectful to Brian than Landy.

[Bill30022]

I would bet on the jelousy angle.

Every night Mike was outshone by the presence of Brian and the miracle that is Al Jardine's voice.

Maybe the agreement was that he would be in charge of live shows but with my infusion of most of Brian's band and some of the song selections ('Summer's Gone') even the shows seemed Briancentric.

It is my understanding that Mike travels light (what can't be carried in the belly of a commercial plane is rented). Brian (and C50) brought everything from venue to venue - a much more complex undertaking.

[Debbie KL]

Yep...Ang nailed it in paragraph 2.  THAT'S almost entirely it.  Mike is always the big kahuna with the mini/reasonable facsimile tours.  He's not about to SHARE let alone lose his artificial stature.  Not after all these decades of believing that he's WAY more important than he truly ever was.  He's come to believe ALL of the bull poop which festoons his booklette.

Melinda on the other hand?  If she had no time for the likes of that 'tonic seller' Landy, saw through all of that shyte, gathered evidence and  made sure that 'it' was dealt with it...why, then, would she sit idly by and simply watch another 'pretender' give her man anything less than the respect he both earned and deserves?  The only handling which seems to have taken place was that a spouse was 'there' for her spouse.  WE WOULD ALL want that for ourselves.  [Unless you go through wives like they're a dime a dozen.]

Thanks Dave in KC and Add Some but I can't take much credit for deciding Mike chose to end the C50 this way out of jealousy. It's something that has been said and written before by quite a few people, including Add Some and myself. It's so obvious that surely only perhaps Mike and some of his more obsessed fans could possibly fail to consider it. Or perhaps they do and pile the other excuses on top of it to disguise the truth.

Melinda comes in for a lot of flak but she has got Brian's back and I respect her for it. Add Some is right - she could no more allow Mike to be less than respectful to Brian than Landy.

Well said as always by Ang and Add Some - I certainly don't discount the jealousy aspect.  I just have no way to prove it.  As far as Melinda being a "stand up woman" who supports her man, that's pretty obvious to any human with a brain and without an "anti-Melinda agenda."  We know those people have haunted this MB (and others) for some time.  What they get out of it, I don't know - but it's sad to contemplate.

[Bill30022]

The day Brian visited that car dealership might be the luckiest day of his life.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Yep...Ang nailed it in paragraph 2.  THAT'S almost entirely it.  Mike is always the big kahuna with the mini/reasonable facsimile tours.  He's not about to SHARE let alone lose his artificial stature.  Not after all these decades of believing that he's WAY more important than he truly ever was.  He's come to believe ALL of the bull poop which festoons his booklette.

Melinda on the other hand?  If she had no time for the likes of that 'tonic seller' Landy, saw through all of that shyte, gathered evidence and  made sure that 'it' was dealt with it...why, then, would she sit idly by and simply watch another 'pretender' give her man anything less than the respect he both earned and deserves?  The only handling which seems to have taken place was that a spouse was 'there' for her spouse.  WE WOULD ALL want that for ourselves.  [Unless you go through wives like they're a dime a dozen.]

Thanks Dave in KC and Add Some but I can't take much credit for deciding Mike chose to end the C50 this way out of jealousy. It's something that has been said and written before by quite a few people, including Add Some and myself. It's so obvious that surely only perhaps Mike and some of his more obsessed fans could possibly fail to consider it. Or perhaps they do and pile the other excuses on top of it to disguise the truth.

Melinda comes in for a lot of flak but she has got Brian's back and I respect her for it. Add Some is right - she could no more allow Mike to be less than respectful to Brian than Landy.

Well said as always by Ang and Add Some - I certainly don't discount the jealousy aspect.  I just have no way to prove it.  As far as Melinda being a "stand up woman" who supports her man, that's pretty obvious to any human with a brain and without an "anti-Melinda agenda."  We know those people have haunted this MB (and others) for some time.  What they get out of it, I don't know - but it's sad to contemplate.

In many of those cases, the people making anti-Melinda comments are also pretty much sexist, misogynist pigs, like my "good old friend from across the pond ", so anything they say have to be taken with enough grains of salt to raise one's blood pressure to dangerous levels.

Melinda comes in for a lot of flak but she has got Brian's back and I respect her for it. Add Some is right - she could no more allow Mike to be less than respectful to Brian than Landy.

Exactly. I respect the hell out of her for all that she's done for Brian.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

The day Brian visited that car dealership might be the luckiest day of his life.

Amen...that was a blessed day and we have that to thank for Brian being here and still being The Man.

[Pretty Funky]

Stebbins hit the same nail for the breakup back in 2014.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/entertainment/music-news-reviews/article39497814.html

For many years, Stebbins said, Love toured as the Beach Boys. But once Brian Wilson decided to tour again, he said, that posed a problem.

“Since Carl died in the late ’90s, Mike has basically been the man,” Stebbins said. “He runs the operations, and he runs the show. And I think for the 50th anniversary tour, he had to step back.”

When the surviving Beach Boys were together, Stebbins said, it was Brian Wilson — the mastermind behind the group — who won the biggest applause.

“Night after night after night after night, Mike is making less money getting reminded that Brian is more popular than him,” Stebbins said. “And he has to answer to people instead of calling all the shots himself.”

[Ang Jones]

Stebbins hit the same nail for the breakup back in 2014.

http://www.sanluisobispo.com/entertainment/music-news-reviews/article39497814.html

For many years, Stebbins said, Love toured as the Beach Boys. But once Brian Wilson decided to tour again, he said, that posed a problem.

“Since Carl died in the late ’90s, Mike has basically been the man,” Stebbins said. “He runs the operations, and he runs the show. And I think for the 50th anniversary tour, he had to step back.”

When the surviving Beach Boys were together, Stebbins said, it was Brian Wilson — the mastermind behind the group — who won the biggest applause.

“Night after night after night after night, Mike is making less money getting reminded that Brian is more popular than him,” Stebbins said. “And he has to answer to people instead of calling all the shots himself.”

Anyone who went to the C50 witnessed it first hand. I remember during the UK shows that Mike described the show as 'a show in two halves'. He went on to say 'first half and second half'. But there was a subtext. It was called a reunion but they weren't in any real sense fully reunited. Maybe at times the competitiveness had a positive side earlier in the band's career though I'm not sure of that. But later in the band's career it was divisive.

[Debbie KL]

Yep...Ang nailed it in paragraph 2.  THAT'S almost entirely it.  Mike is always the big kahuna with the mini/reasonable facsimile tours.  He's not about to SHARE let alone lose his artificial stature.  Not after all these decades of believing that he's WAY more important than he truly ever was.  He's come to believe ALL of the bull poop which festoons his booklette.

Melinda on the other hand?  If she had no time for the likes of that 'tonic seller' Landy, saw through all of that shyte, gathered evidence and  made sure that 'it' was dealt with it...why, then, would she sit idly by and simply watch another 'pretender' give her man anything less than the respect he both earned and deserves?  The only handling which seems to have taken place was that a spouse was 'there' for her spouse.  WE WOULD ALL want that for ourselves.  [Unless you go through wives like they're a dime a dozen.]

Thanks Dave in KC and Add Some but I can't take much credit for deciding Mike chose to end the C50 this way out of jealousy. It's something that has been said and written before by quite a few people, including Add Some and myself. It's so obvious that surely only perhaps Mike and some of his more obsessed fans could possibly fail to consider it. Or perhaps they do and pile the other excuses on top of it to disguise the truth.

Melinda comes in for a lot of flak but she has got Brian's back and I respect her for it. Add Some is right - she could no more allow Mike to be less than respectful to Brian than Landy.

Well said as always by Ang and Add Some - I certainly don't discount the jealousy aspect.  I just have no way to prove it.  As far as Melinda being a "stand up woman" who supports her man, that's pretty obvious to any human with a brain and without an "anti-Melinda agenda."  We know those people have haunted this MB (and others) for some time.  What they get out of it, I don't know - but it's sad to contemplate.

In many of those cases, the people making anti-Melinda comments are also pretty much sexist, misogynist pigs, like my "good old friend from across the pond ", so anything they say have to be taken with enough grains of salt to raise one's blood pressure to dangerous levels.

Melinda comes in for a lot of flak but she has got Brian's back and I respect her for it. Add Some is right - she could no more allow Mike to be less than respectful to Brian than Landy.

Exactly. I respect the hell out of her for all that she's done for Brian.

Yes, Billy, it's hard to miss when these creepy people also post weird, anti-social (anti-human) stuff in the Sandbox that there are a good number who are blinded by their misogyny against Melinda.  Some of the personal attacks on me and other women here made it pretty obvious.  Would a long-time guy friend have been perceived as being "dumped" with a "saggy ass?"  

No doubt we'll enjoy that sad excuse for a human being/troll here again, since he seems to get a thrill out of popping up under various screen names and IP addresses to harass and be belligerent.  And he was, of course, welcomed with open arms at another message board or two.  There are several others no longer here (or not often) who show no qualms lying about anything and everything - so I guess Melinda was considered "fair game" by these sickos.

She's had to be braver than most of us can realize to be Brian's love and support for all these years. The film only covered the first part of what she's endured.

[SMiLE Brian]

Mike's beard is a piece of sh*t.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Mike's beard is a piece of sh*t.

Yeah he is. Hard to believe that he's a homophobe once you see what he actually looks like