Randell Kirsch

[Custom Machine]

Love pays the band members $200 / show plus $50 a day food allowance.  End of Story.

Well, now we know why Foskett and Ike left BW's band ... and why ML's band sees so little turnover ... what highly talented musician in their right mind could pass up $200 per show, not to mention an additional $50/day food allowance?

[LostArt]

Love pays the band members $200 / show plus $50 a day food allowance.  End of Story.

Well, now we know why Foskett and Ike left BW's band ... and why ML's band sees so little turnover ... what highly talented musician in their right mind could pass up $200 per show, not to mention an additional $50/day food allowance?

Nonsense.  The Beach Boys are getting $75,000 + per show.  Those guys are not making $250.00 per show.  Hell, I made $200.00 plus free drinks last Saturday playing at a small supper club in the middle of Wisconsin.  $250.00 

[HeyJude]

Send Jeff & Ike an email and ask. Don't speculate about something you have no knowledge about.

I don't think Jeff could have been any more transparent about how he went from Brian to Mike's band, not that it was really any of our business anyway.  As a fan of his (and Brian's, obviously) I'm personally glad he went into detail as it made things MUCH easier for me to take in.  That said, I don't think there's anything wrong with any of us speculating if, as it's been said, we clearly state that as our intention, and at this point, I think the point's been made, even if that wasn't the plan going in.

While (and let me be very clear on this) I don't believe Jeff is in any way actually *obligated* to offer an explanation of any sort, I would disagree that the *one* interview he gave on the subject was a case where he couldn't have been more transparent. An excellent post on the subject from back at that time:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,18293.msg476418.html#msg476418

[Andrew G. Doe]

Just had a word with a band member and they confirmed that the $200 per show claim is way too low. Going by certain aspects of surf patrol's posts, I'm pretty sure who they are, and why they post as they do.

[Jim V.]

Just had a word with a band member and they confirmed that the $200 per show claim is way too low. Going by certain aspects of surf patrol's posts, I'm pretty sure who they are, and why they post as they do.

Former member of the backing band?

[Andrew G. Doe]

Current band member.

[Robbie Mac]

Current band member.

No, I think Jim is wondering about the identity of surf patrol.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Oh, sorry. No.

[Custom Machine]

Love pays the band members $200 / show plus $50 a day food allowance.  End of Story.

Well, now we know why Foskett and Ike left BW's band ... and why ML's band sees so little turnover ... what highly talented musician in their right mind could pass up $200 per show, not to mention an additional $50/day food allowance?

Nonsense.  The Beach Boys are getting $75,000 + per show.  Those guys are not making $250.00 per show.  Hell, I made $200.00 plus free drinks last Saturday playing at a small supper club in the middle of Wisconsin.  $250.00 

My post was intended to be humorous.

[SMiLE Brian]

Mike's online PR machine to the rescue. 

[Pretty Funky]

Yeah....We learn much more here with wild statements and inaccurate,unsubstantiated opinion huh!

[lastofmykind]

Guys I just want to put something on the record.  I know for a fact the members of the touring band as recently as 2014 are paid at least 700.00 USD per show.  They are also given a daily 50 dollar cash stipend, the only time they are not given a cash stipend is the few times a year they stay at a casino that has a hotel where they can eat and charge it to the room.  Also the band requires 50,000.00 USD to come and do a show.  If you want to book the Endless summer band (the band minus BJ) that is 25,000.00, subsequently ESB the per show is half of a BB per show.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

Thank you for that...that seems much more reasonable.

[Eric Aniversario]

Guys I just want to put something on the record.  I know for a fact the members of the touring band as recently as 2014 are paid at least 700.00 USD per show.  They are also given a daily 50 dollar cash stipend, the only time they are not given a cash stipend is the few times a year they stay at a casino that has a hotel where they can eat and charge it to the room.  Also the band requires 50,000.00 USD to come and do a show.  If you want to book the Endless summer band (the band minus BJ) that is 25,000.00, subsequently ESB the per show is half of a BB per show.

Thanks for the info! That seems a lot more reasonable. Just to clarify, though, does Mike also appear with the Endless Summer Band? Also, isn't that the name of one of Al's groups?

[Douchepool]

$50K a show makes sense...paying the musicians and crew, renting equipment, travel expenses, that kind of stuff. $700 a show for at least a hundred shows a year is nothing to shake a stick at.

[Pretty Funky]

Also doesn't BRI take 25% off the top? There's $12.5k right away.

[lastofmykind]

Just in general in the entertainment industry generally speaking the promoters of a concert are responsible for travel/food/lodging costs of a band as most times they are with the BB.  Also the promoter is responsibility for overhead costs of FOH (front of house) equipment which for the touring band is FOH mixing and lighting boards as well as side stage IEM (in ear monitor) mixing boards, and what ever lighting is able to be used at a particular venue.  I can also tell you the band only travels with guitars and IEM's and Microphones.  Amps, drum kits, keyboards, mic stands, guitar stands, are all provided at the promoters expense.

ERIC - Mike Love's Endless summer band or the Endless summer band from my understanding is all of touring beach boys minus bruce!  

[lastofmykind]

Pretty Funky - I'm not well versed on the terms of the agreement MELECO has with BRI, I always thought it was 25 percent on the first million of revenue and 15 percent there after.  AGD or the mods I'm sure would have better insight!

[Pretty Funky]

I recall the same.

Also old Uncle Sam takes a good slice I'm sure.

[Eric Aniversario]

Just in general in the entertainment industry generally speaking the promoters of a concert are responsible for travel/food/lodging costs of a band as most times they are with the BB.  Also the promoter is responsibility for overhead costs of FOH (front of house) equipment which for the touring band is FOH mixing and lighting boards as well as side stage IEM (in ear monitor) mixing boards, and what ever lighting is able to be used at a particular venue.  I can also tell you the band only travels with guitars and IEM's and Microphones.  Amps, drum kits, keyboards, mic stands, guitar stands, are all provided at the promoters expense.

ERIC - Mike Love's Endless summer band or the Endless summer band from my understanding is all of touring beach boys minus bruce!  

Wow half price for one less person (Bruce)? That seems like a relative bargain. Probably within reach for someone who would really want them to perform for a small private event. I wonder if Bruce gets a much larger cut than the other musicians since he is an official Beach Boy. And also how much David Marks or John Stamos receive for appearing.

[Pretty Funky]

Keep in mind Eric that with Bruce onboard you are probably getting the licensed 'Beach Boys' by default and the added associated costs of the licensing agreement.

[Andrew G. Doe]

Pretty Funky - I'm not well versed on the terms of the agreement MELECO has with BRI, I always thought it was 25 percent on the first million of revenue and 15 percent there after.  AGD or the mods I'm sure would have better insight!

20% and 17.5%... but those were the figures in 1999.

Also, now that his "facts" about the pay have been refuted by two sources, maybe Jim He... l mean, surf patrol would like to say something ?

[AndrewHickey]

Guys I just want to put something on the record.  I know for a fact the members of the touring band as recently as 2014 are paid at least 700.00 USD per show.  They are also given a daily 50 dollar cash stipend, the only time they are not given a cash stipend is the few times a year they stay at a casino that has a hotel where they can eat and charge it to the room.  Also the band requires 50,000.00 USD to come and do a show.  If you want to book the Endless summer band (the band minus BJ) that is 25,000.00, subsequently ESB the per show is half of a BB per show.

Very glad to hear it. I didn't want to just assume surf patrol was lying, but I'm very glad they're getting paid reasonable rates. It's a shame we have to know this, though -- frankly it's none of our business.

[LostArt]

Love pays the band members $200 / show plus $50 a day food allowance.  End of Story.

Well, now we know why Foskett and Ike left BW's band ... and why ML's band sees so little turnover ... what highly talented musician in their right mind could pass up $200 per show, not to mention an additional $50/day food allowance?

Nonsense.  The Beach Boys are getting $75,000 + per show.  Those guys are not making $250.00 per show.  Hell, I made $200.00 plus free drinks last Saturday playing at a small supper club in the middle of Wisconsin.  $250.00 

My post was intended to be humorous.

Oh, I know.  I was responding to the OP, and yours got lumped in.  My apologies, sir.  Merry Christmas.

[SMiLE Brian]

Merry Christmas!