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« on: August 17, 2015, 08:25:53 PM »

9+4+9+5+7+9+5+1+2+1+8+1+7+5=73=1(Im in Great Shape)

5+6+5+4+5+9+6+3+3=46=1 (wonderful)


1+3+9+6+1+3+7=30=3(surfs up)

4+5+7+1+2+1+2+3+5+1=31=4(veggies)

3+8+9+3+4+9+1+6+1+2+8+5+9+6+6+2+8+5+4+1+5=105=6 (child is father)

2+8+5+6+3+4+4+1+1+2+5+9+7+1+9+5+2+5+9=88=16=7 (The Old Master Painter)

8+5+9+6+5+1+1+5+4+4+9+3+3+1+9+5+1=79=16=7 (Heroes and Villains)

4+6+7+6+3+3+9+2+5+5+6+9+4+1=70=7(Worms)


7+6+6+4+4+9+2+9+1+2+9+6+5+1=71=8 (vibes)

5+9+5+4+3+8+9+4+5+1=53=8(windchimes)


3+1+2+9+5+5+1+1+5+5+3+5=45=9 (Cabin Essence)

2+8+5+5+3+5+4+5+5+2+1=45=9 (the elements)


Gotta say...I'm disappointed. I was hoping half would add up to one thing and the other half something else. IE, a clue to which sides the songs would go on. Or that each would be a different number and the numeric order would show you where each song lay in the sequence. Or SOMETHING. Nah. I do think it's interesting how they roughly pair up except for Veggies and Surf. But Im not sure what it means or if its just a coincidence. Probably the latter. In any case, thought someone ought to test this out. Whether others buy it or not, I think looking at the album through an astrological context wielded some fascinating insight. I wanted to see if numerology would too. Was there any other philosophy Brian was into at the time I could try?

EDIT: I cant do basic math. I had OMP listed as 6 when actually it adds up to 7. Further proving that the pairing is almost certainly a coincidence. So...looking at SMiLE thru a numerology context reveals almost nothing at all.
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2015, 08:28:48 PM »

Well, Brian was reading some Arthur Koestler at the time, although I don't know if he counts as a philosopher.
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« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2015, 12:10:27 AM »

With the new thread going on about SMiLE sequences, I got the urge to revisit this. Instead of looking at the tracks individually, I worked this time to add up the totals of each SIDE of vinyl and trying to come up with equal numbers for each. Uh, if that makes sense.

So I added up all the songs in the first column of the Capitol tracklist compared to all the songs in the second. Here's the results I had.

Side One: 30+79+70+71+53+45=348=15=6
Side Two: 73+46+31+105+88+45=388=19=1

With these, I used the totals from each title and added them up. But in numerology, if your total is any number besides 1-9, 11 or 22 you keep going. So I also experimented with adding those numbers together to see if anything changed.

Side One: 3+7+7+8+8+9=42=6
Side Two: 1+1+4+6+7+9=28=1

As long as I was doing this, I experimented with the numerologic totals of my two SMiLE mixes which used the same songs on the tracklist, Olorin and Romestamo. Just for shits and giggles. I started with Romestamo because as far as Im concerned...well, thats MY SMiLE now. Heres what I found doing that.

Romestamo1:4+7+7+9+9+1=37=1 or 31+79+70+45+45+73=343=1
Romestamo2:1+3+6+7+8+8=33=6 or 46+30+105+88+71+53=393=15=6

I think its interesting the pattern of 1s and 6s coincides with the Capitol list at least. But Im trying to find a "balanced" sequence. Where the songs on each side total the same number numerologically. So I tried Olorin.

Olorin1:7+1+7+9+4+7=35=7 or 73+31+88+79+70+45=386=8
Olorin2:8+9+8+6+3+1=35=7 or 46+30+105+71+53+45=350=8

Huh. Well thats cool. I am a tad thrown tho that both methods didnt yield the same number tho, as seemed to be the case for the other two sequences. Not sure whats up with that, if that should count as some kind of disqualifier, or what. Id love to see a sequence were all four match up perfectly should one even exist. As a refresher, the tracklisting I did in that mix was:

1: Worms, Great Shape, VegaTables, Heroes, Cabin, OMP
2: GV, Elements, WC, CIFOTM, Wonderful, Surfs Up

I only experimented with my mixes that used the "original songs" because if not Id be doing this all night. Anyway, Im curious if anyone else can find some balanced groupings with this method; that is, adding the titles of those 12 songs up numerologically. It might provide some neat insight. This could all be a total waste of time too, but I did really like my Olorin mix and feel like I was unto something with that sequence (even if I did make minor changes later for a different mix) so there could be something to this. And Brian was really into stuff like astrology and numerology at the time. Its just possible he wanted to work that in somehow. Interesting to consider there was this clue all the time no one considered, at least I think so, and might be fun to look at SMiLE thru this lens in any case.
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Here are my SMiLE Mixes. All are 2 suite, but still vastly different in several ways. Be on the lookout for another, someday.

Aquarian SMiLE>HERE
Dumb Angel (Olorin Edition)>HERE
Dumb Angel [the Romestamo Cut]>HERE

& This is a new pet project Ive worked on, which combines Fritz Lang's classic film, Metropolis (1927) with The United States of America (1968) as a new soundtrack. More info is in the video description.
The American Metropolitan Circus>HERE
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« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2015, 01:56:21 AM »

I've been dubbed Mr. SMiLE by former board member, Mikie. I hope to live up to this esteemed title, in his honor

This thread is certainly proof of that, MBBW!  Cool Guy

Go well, Mikie, wherever you are. :=)
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« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2015, 04:44:09 AM »

I wonder what the outcome would be if you substituted the value of each letter in a song title with different colour M&Ms? Were M&Ms even available in 66/67? And if so, what was the actual cocoa content?
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« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2015, 05:04:22 AM »

Were M&Ms even available in 66/67? And if so, what was the actual cocoa content?

They certainly were: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%26M%27s

And I'm told only the brown ones have a cocoa coating (sounds like I'm stuttering). All other coatings are as artificial as ****.

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« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2015, 07:08:46 AM »

I wonder what the outcome would be if you substituted the value of each letter in a song title with different colour M&Ms? Were M&Ms even available in 66/67? And if so, what was the actual cocoa content?

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Here are my SMiLE Mixes. All are 2 suite, but still vastly different in several ways. Be on the lookout for another, someday.

Aquarian SMiLE>HERE
Dumb Angel (Olorin Edition)>HERE
Dumb Angel [the Romestamo Cut]>HERE

& This is a new pet project Ive worked on, which combines Fritz Lang's classic film, Metropolis (1927) with The United States of America (1968) as a new soundtrack. More info is in the video description.
The American Metropolitan Circus>HERE
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