New album project incorrectly described in online article.

[guitarfool2002]

The fact that Mike lost that lawsuit over a disc that was labeled as "the Beach Boys' Brian Wilson" would mean he's allowed to release an album under "the Beach Boys' Mike Love," so he would be permitted to mention that association in some way.  That Daily Mail Brian Wilson CD also included photos of the original Beach Boys on the cover, including Mike.  So, presumably Mike is legally allowed to include photos of the original Beach Boys on any CD cover, including pictures of Brian. Even without Brian being on the recording or Brian's permission. 

I'm no expert when it comes to legal issues, but there's probably a difference between what you can get away with on a UK only freebie, and a commercial worldwide release.

That's exactly what it is, the differences were spelled out technically but basically came down to what you said here. Funny thing is that it takes me roughly 4,000 words or so to cover the reasons while your post does the same in one sentence!    I need to work on that in 2015...

Just to clarify all of that info I wrote earlier, I was looking for any recent examples to compare where something happened regarding a release of a disc that raised an eyebrow legally regarding the use of the name "Beach Boys" or anything similar. This was the most famous/visible example, the BW Sunday Mail free CD case...and look at the dust-up that occurred. It was, to be kind, a real debacle that saw not only the case being thrown out of several courts, but also orders that those filing the lawsuit pay the legal fees of some of those being sued (those in the legal field, perhaps you could explain what kind of message that kind of action from a court is sending...), some actions of the legal team being admonished by the courts, and other details that added up to a mess.

But if that much hay was made over a release like that free disc, which was not even a commercial US release or a release at all, more or less, imagine if an actual project were to be offered on the market labeled "The Beach Boys" that had anything less than the 2012 C50 lineup involved.

If this is nothing more than a PR move, let me say again speaking only for myself but thinking what I believe other fans are thinking too: Announcing a "new" Beach Boys album in any way is something to be handled veeerrrrrryyyyy carefully. Tread light with that kind of stuff...or at least be prepared to clarify such a statement in some official way before the thing spins out of control.

[filledeplage]

AGD has the answer http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,19513.msg491447.html#msg491447

No, that isn't the answer.

We know (generally) the parameters of the Touring Band. Andrew has provided that info. That is credible.

The issue is the announcement of a 2017 album.

Don't be so obtuse

bgas - the title of the thread concerns a BB album in 2017.

It either is, or it ain't happening.

It has been there for several days.  If it was erroneous, wouldn't someone "official" confirm or deny it?

[Nicko1234]

This seems a bit vague. Who would be involved? Why would it take 2 years? Why is it mentioned so casually in an obscure article? I wouldn't make too much of this quite yet.

The sanest post in this thread...

[Rocker]

Could the "new album" be a new archival release like Hawthorne, CA, that features alternative versions of hit songs plus songs that were never released before?
Again, I think the easiest way to get an answer is to share the link on Brian's (and maybe also Mike's) facebook site and say how cool it is that they will get together to record a new album. When there's enough talk etc. they will post a statement if it's false news.

[guitarfool2002]

Could the "new album" be a new archival release like Hawthorne, CA, that features alternative versions of hit songs plus songs that were never released before?
Again, I think the easiest way to get an answer is to share the link on Brian's (and maybe also Mike's) facebook site and say how cool it is that they will get together to record a new album. When there's enough talk etc. they will post a statement if it's false news.

On point one, that could be a possibility, I definitely thought of that too (like a compilation including some recordings they did recently but never released widely)...again, the need for clarification is there.

On point two, has this happened enough in the past to think it would happen now? Part of me seriously doubts that those who are charged with PR duties have an understanding of how fans really are, and how they react to such things.

The fans deserve a clarification, from an "official" Beach Boys source, or from Mike's offices since it was his interview where this line appeared alongside. Put it directly on his Facebook and see what the answer would be, I'm with Rocker on that one.

[Ray Lawlor]

Dear Ray, are you in any position to comment on the likelihood that this idea, as Mike has set it out there, could turn into a real BB album, with all 5 together again?  If you happen to know or suspect strongly that such a thing will not happen, I would like to be put out of my misery and stop hoping.  If you are in no position to comment or to opine, than I understand, but this thread is desperate for clarity (beyond my naive hope and the cynical dismissal of other voices). Legal tussles would be set aside if they simply did a new BB album like Radio, with a new Capital contract and with a willing and loving spirit of unity. Thank you Ray,

The Professor
PS: this is not a PM; I am posting it for all to hear but address Ray for obvious reasons.

Hi Professor;
 I called Brian last night to see if there was really anything to this. He said he had already gotten a call on it, and told me that neither he , nor Al , knew anything about it. He kind of laughed and said that none of us can cut a record independantly and call it The Beach Boys anyway.

Actually he is not. No Pier Pressure was done under a completely new contract with Capitol Records. It has zero to do with The Beach Boys.

That's very interesting. Can you shed any more light on the circumstances around it? For example, was the NPP solo album some sort of replacement for an obviously not-gonna-happen second Beach Boys album, but (I assume) negotiated with less favorable terms to account for the solo-versus-Beach Boys name? Or for that matter, even how that would have come up in conversation that you came to know it? ("Hey, Ray, looks like the Beach Boys contract was voided because we can't deliver a second album as a group, but I'm working on a new contract anyway. Pass the ketchup.")

If you can't say anything further, that's fine as well. Your previous clarification was appreciated.

NPP is not a replacement for any BB product ; there were two albums delivered under The Beach Boys Agreement ; That's Why God Made the Radio and the live record. That fulfilled the agreement. As for how I came to know about it ; Brian called me after he got the deal ; he was happy about it. As for terms , I would never ask him , but he said he was really happy with it so that is all I needed to know.

As always, thanks.

you're welcome

[guitarfool2002]

Hi Professor;
 I called Brian last night to see if there was really anything to this. He said he had already gotten a call on it, and told me that neither he , nor Al , knew anything about it. He kind of laughed and said that none of us can cut a record independantly and call it The Beach Boys anyway.

And there it is. 

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

If Brian's denied it, then that's good enough for me. I think the original writer misheard.

[Ray Lawlor]

Possible double post

Hi Professor;

I called Brian last night to see if there was really anything to this. He said that he had already gotten a call on it , and told me that neither he , nor Al, knew anything about it. He kind of laughed and said that none of us can cut a record independantly and call it The Beach Boys anyway.
Ray

[guitarfool2002]

If Brian's denied it, then that's good enough for me. I think the original writer misheard.

It would definitely be premature to mention a new Beach Boys album in 2017 when 2 of the 3 members who would/should be involved didn't know about it.   

[bgas]

If Brian's denied it, then that's good enough for me. I think the original writer misheard.

It would definitely be premature to mention a new Beach Boys album in 2017 when 2 of the 3 members who would/should be involved didn't know about it.   

In that case, Mods should close the thread

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I think my initial instinct, in that the writer misunderstood Love's desire to release an album under his own name , was correct.

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

If Brian's denied it, then that's good enough for me. I think the original writer misheard.

It would definitely be premature to mention a new Beach Boys album in 2017 when 2 of the 3 members who would/should be involved didn't know about it.   

In that case, Mods should close the thread

Will shortly. We know there's not a 'Beach Boys' album coming out now...just waiting for clarification (if any) of what actually IS being released in 2017.

[the professor]

Agreed about letting this rest until we know more. But it's clear that a new BB album, if it were the real thing, so to speak,would create great excitement. We got spoiled with 67 shows and late-night appearances when the BB were everywhere. Now I, and those who share my longing, would be thrilled if it really happens. Perhaps the confused swirl about this will get the Boys themselves thinking. Thanks to Ray for the extremely cool act of calling Brian. Ray, if it's within your purview, please tell Brian that many of us long for a BB album but that we salute him for all his work and for his current album, which I know I will cherish, while waiting in joyful hope for another reunion album.

The Professor

[Emdeeh]

There will likely be a 1967-era copyright protection BB album of some sort coming out in 2017...  

With a full complement of Wilsons, even.

[John Manning]

If Brian's denied it, then that's good enough for me. I think the original writer misheard.

It would definitely be premature to mention a new Beach Boys album in 2017 when 2 of the 3 members who would/should be involved didn't know about it.   

In that case, Mods should close the thread

Following their tour state-side and a tour overseas in 2015, fans can expect The Beach Boys to put forth a new album in 2017, which will consist, according to Love, of both new songs and new renditions of older songs. Love also expects his autobiography tentatively titled “Good Vibrations: My Life as A Beach Boy” to be released the same year. There are also talks of revisiting their collaboration with the musical group Chicago in the future. Love says, “We’re always open to collaboration. We like a whole lot of different types of music and appreciate all kinds.”

So far away that we don't need to speculate. Let more news seep out over the next 24 months, then meet back here to pick it apart!

Seems to be a consensus forming… see you here in Jan 2017 to discuss news, if there is any by then.

[ontor pertawst]

I emailed the author of that piece to see if we can get clarification on what exactly was said. But surely some of the posters on this thread close to Mr. Love should be able to enlighten us, right?  Once they wipe the egg from their face anyway.

[SMiLE Brian]

[♩♬🐸 Billy C ♯♫♩🐇]

I emailed the author of that piece to see if we can get clarification on what exactly was said. But surely some of the posters on this thread close to Mr. Love should be able to enlighten us, right?  Once they wipe the egg from their face anyway.

Good idea to email the author.

[Pretty Funky]

Mike toured all of 2011 after re-recording 'DIA' in I think April yet despite knowing the C50 was going to happen, never said a dicky-bird until the 'official' announcement in December 2011.

He is not the kind of guy that is going to let slip about any full Beach Boys album 2 years out.

[ppk700]

Possible double post

Hi Professor;

I called Brian last night to see if there was really anything to this. He said that he had already gotten a call on it , and told me that neither he , nor Al, knew anything about it. He kind of laughed and said that none of us can cut a record independantly and call it The Beach Boys anyway.
Ray

That settles that. Thanks Ray, you are invaluable here.

[Lonely Summer]

I'm really excited about the possibility of a new BB's album in 2020.

[mikeddonn]

Thank you for clearing that up Ray with a little phone call to the great man himself! 

[Cam Mott]

Possible double post

Hi Professor;

I called Brian last night to see if there was really anything to this. He said that he had already gotten a call on it , and told me that neither he , nor Al, knew anything about it. He kind of laughed and said that none of us can cut a record independantly and call it The Beach Boys anyway.
Ray

Ray,

Sorry if this is dense but you asked if Mike and Bruce were planning a Beach Boys release independently? Or did he mean there is no Beach Boys album with anyone planned for 2017? His use of "indepenently" is throwing me off maybe. Thanks.

[ontor pertawst]

Seems pretty self-explanatory. Brian and Al aren't involved, and Mike has no ability to put out a "Beach Boys" album using only himself and his employees. It's up to the author of that piece and Mike Love to explain what he meant. Have you tried posting about it on Mike Love's facebook page?

It's definitely a solo release, perhaps Mike just used a vague "we" to describe the project and didn't call it a solo project. Since he was promoting a "Beach Boys" show, the author may have just assumed he meant a Beach Boys album. Anyway let's see how Mike Love clears it up but that seems like a reasonable explanation without having to express shock horror or scream about bad journalism. I'll post if I hear back from the author!