What are the odds on an official Adult/Child release?

[urbanite]

It's Trying to Say is not bad at all, I like that DW song.
 

[Nicko1234]

Is there a known list of tracks for New Album?

To save AGD from having a heart attack I will copy and paste the information from his mighty fine bellagio site.

http://www.esquarterly.com/bellagio/unreleased.html

'New Album'
projected release date unknown
recorded fall 1976 except * April 1965 (track), ** November 1969, + 1970, #January-May 1976
produced by Brian Wilson
My Diane - Marilyn Rovell - Hey Little Tomboy - Ruby Baby - You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin' - Sherry She Needs Me* - Come Go With Me# - Mony Mony# - On Broadway# - Sea Cruise# - H.E.L.P Is On The Way+ - Games Two Can Play+ - When Girls Get Together**
(track sequence unknown)
 
Adult/Child
projected release date fall 1977
recorded  early 1977 except * 1970, **winter 1973, + January-May 1976
produced  by Brian Wilson except * The Beach Boys
Life Is For The Living - Hey Little Tomboy+ - Deep Purple - H.E.L.P. Is On The Way* - It's Over Now - Everybody Wants To Live: Shortenin' Bread** - Lines - On Broadway+ - Games Two Can Play* - It's Trying To Say - Still I Dream Of It
 
   Although Brian had found the 15 Big Ones sessions tedious, by fall 1976 his appetite for studio work had returned, so much so that by the year's end he'd completed two new albums. Brian Loves You was released in May 1977 after undergoing a minor change of title, but of 'New Album' little is known bar the title and tracks to be included. As indicated above, eight of the fourteen tracks had histories ranging from a few months - the 15 Big Ones outtakes - to several years (in the case of "Sherry…", an eleven year-old instrumental track overdubbed with a 1976 Brian vocal). The remainder are largely Brian solo recordings, ranging from the near-banal ("Marilyn Rovell") to the sublime ("You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'"). For whatever reason, the album was never released (and here it should be noted that some BB historians hold that the title itself is highly suspect - it's possible that someone misunderstood Brian's reference to "a new album").
 
   Early the following year, Brian hit the studio again, the result being an album entitled (reportedly by Gene Landy) Adult/Child, yet another confection of new recordings and five tracks from the archive, four of which were recycled from 'New Album', the other being the 1973 American Spring recording of "Shortenin' Bread" (with Brian on bass vocal) completed by a Carl lead. Of the new material, four - "Life Is For The Living", "Deep Purple", "It's Over Now" & "Still I Dream Of It" - saw Brian reunited with Dick Reynolds, the arranger for the 1964 Christmas Album, who handled the role again here. The album was widely publicized as the next Beach Boys release, but fell foul of a serious group fall-out, centered on the 'big band' tracks: it's possible that Reprise also rejected the master. Of the titles not covered previously, "My Diane", "Come Go With Me" and "Hey Little Tomboy" were released on  M.I.U. Album, "Come Go…" almost entirely re-recorded, the latter thankfully shorn of some embarrassing voice-overs in the middle eight. "Sea Cruise" appeared on Ten Years Of Harmony, "Shortenin' Bread" on L. A. (Light Album) (completely re-recorded, with Dennis on bass vocal) while the 1993 box included "Still I Dream Of It" and "It's Over Now".
Possibility of release: artistically interesting, but commercially not viable.

[Nicko1234]

Looking at that track listing I would say it is a very good thing that `New Album` wasn`t released. Only 3 new original songs (2 of which are not good at all) and a tracklisting that would have been rather less cohesive than the Still Cruisin` album years later.

[Mikie]

Side A:

1.  Life is For The Living - Unreleased, booted
2.  Hey Little Tomboy - Released, MIU. This perv version not appropriate for release.
3.  Deep Purple  - Unreleased, booted
4.  H.E.L.P. Is On The Way - Released, Good Vibrations box
5.  It’s Over Now - Released, Good Vibrations box
6.  Everybody Wants To Live - Unreleased, booted

Side B:

7.  Shortenin’ Bread - Released, L.A. Light Album
8.  Lines - Unreleased, booted
9.  On Broadway - Unreleased, booted
10.  Games Two Can Play - Released, Good Vibrations box.
11.  It’s Trying To Say - Unreleased, booted
12.  Still I Dream of It - Released, Good Vibrations box

Coulda been contenders for Adult Child......

Mony Mony - Unreleased, booted
Ruby Baby - Unreleased, booted
My Diane - Released, MIU
Marilyn Rovell - Unreleased, booted
You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feelin’ - Released, MIC
Honkin’ Down The Highway - Released, Love You. This version w/Billy H. on lead.
Sherry She Needs Me - Released, MIC
When Girls Get Together - Released, Keepin' The Summer Alive

Now the million dollar question.  Knowing the best of this material has already been formally released, what unreleased tracks above are worth releasing (in any form)?

[Nicko1234]

I would say that the cover versions are very, very average at best.

Of the originals, It`s Trying to Say and Lines are nice songs. They would be fine on a future rarities compilation as would the earlier mix of My Diane.

Most of these songs would be best released if the studio albums are ever issued with bonus tracks though. When BW88 was re-released it included very average stuff like the Walkin the Line demo but it was a great release for the fans. Hopefully the same thing could happen some day with 15 Big Ones and Love You...

[Dudd]

Of the stuff Mikie listed, I'd say the best still unreleased are Life, Deep Purple, Everybody Wants To Live, and especially Mony Mony. That's a gem of a cover.

[Alan Smith]

Everybody Wants To Live
It’s Trying To Say
Lines

are worth slipping in something as bonus tracks, not sure if Id give that much of a toss about the remainder.

I was hoping to see Everybody Wants ta on MIC

[alf wiedersehen]

Is there a known list of tracks for New Album?

From AGD's website:
My Diane
Marilyn Rovell
Hey Little Tomboy
Ruby Baby
You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
Sherry She Needs Me
Come Go With Me
Mony Mony
On Broadway
Sea Cruise
H.E.L.P Is On The Way
Games Two Can Play
When Girls Get Together

[metal flake paint]

At the very least, Life Is For The Living is deserving of official release, just for Carl belting out "LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE!" alone!

[Alan Smith]

At the very least, Life Is For The Living is deserving of official release, just for Carl belting out "LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE!" alone!

  Good call, MFP - They should have used that in the inner groove lead out

[Please delete my account]

At the very least, Life Is For The Living is deserving of official release, just for Carl belting out "LIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIFE!" alone!

Thank you! To me "Life Is For The Living" is one of the definite highlights of Adult Child, and it was grieving me that no-one was mentioning it, or else referring to it as "unreleasable" (because of the word "ass"? Or because the world is serious and grey and no-one likes fun songs?)

[Jay]

I personally love Life Is For The Living, but I can understand why some people might deem it unfit for an official release. It's not one of Carl's best vocals. It's pretty obvious that he was under the influence of something when he sang it. Hearing Carl growl out "LIIIIIIIIIIFE!!!!!" is just plain scary.   

[Niko]

I like the song...but I guess I like everything involving a Wilson brother 

[Nicko1234]

Life is for the Living is a song I have disliked ever since first hearing it and not because of the use of the word ass. It`s been mentioned before that the synopsis for this song could be, `Fat crazy man and his drunken brother preach to the world about physical fitness` and it sounds like a bad joke to me.

[metal flake paint]

Hearing Carl growl out "LIIIIIIIIIIFE!!!!!" is just plain scary.   

Carl had one of the best growls in the business

[Dudd]

LIFTL is alright, but easily the weakest of the big band tracks I think. Although unsurprisingly it has a sweet backing track.

[Rocky Raccoon]

The early version of "Come Go With Me" was included (by accident I believe) on the CD version of Ten Years of Harmony.

[Dudd]

How the hell did that happen

[phirnis]

Life is for the Living is a song I have disliked ever since first hearing it and not because of the use of the word ass. It`s been mentioned before that the synopsis for this song could be, `Fat crazy man and his drunken brother preach to the world about physical fitness` and it sounds like a bad joke to me.

Brian's always been like that. (Vegetables comes to mind.) If they were fat or regularly drunk at the time it probably adds to the weirdness of Adult Child but I don't see an overall big problem here.

(By the way, this must've been '77, so Brian was in decent shape at least for a short period of time.)

[Nicko1234]

The early version of "Come Go With Me" was included (by accident I believe) on the CD version of Ten Years of Harmony.

Wasn`t it included on one of the pressings of M.I.U. as well?

[Nicko1234]

Life is for the Living is a song I have disliked ever since first hearing it and not because of the use of the word ass. It`s been mentioned before that the synopsis for this song could be, `Fat crazy man and his drunken brother preach to the world about physical fitness` and it sounds like a bad joke to me.

Brian's always been like that. (Vegetables comes to mind.) If they were fat or regularly drunk at the time it probably adds to the weirdness of Adult Child but I don't see an overall big problem here.

(By the way, this must've been '77, so Brian was in decent shape at least for a short period of time.)

Oh yeah and it is a very common thing for people who destroy their bodies in one way to preach to others about living a healthy lifestyle. Sadly for me since first listen I have found it unlistenable though and think that Carl does sound drunk (at best).

[phirnis]

Yeah, he does sound drunk to my ears as well. It's the same on some of the songs on Love You.

[Don Malcolm]

I only want an "official" release if it's a DVD featuring some of the more memorable clips from the period, including Brian's very abashed, almost ashamed-of-himself discussion of "Hey Little Tomboy." Along with a roundtable discussion from many of our most esteemed BB experts dissecting the true meaning of the "Adult/Child" concept.

Plus a cleaned-up bonus track of that insanely sped-up, rocked-out version of "Roller Skating Child." (Which I wish like heck they would re-do for Brian's new "rock'n'roll" record....)

 

[Mikie]

My opinions for the potential release of songs that remain unreleased from the Adult Child era.

1.  Life is For The Living - Unreleased, booted  *Would have been good for Sinatra. I wonder what Harry Connic Jr. could do with it with a slight change of lyrics.
2.  Hey Little Tomboy - Released, MIU. This perv version not appropriate for release. Should not see the light of day.
3.  Deep Purple  - Unreleased, booted  *Might be OK for a 2-fer bonus track. Not bad, but not strong either.
6.  Everybody Wants To Live - Unreleased, booted  *Not bad, but not worthy of release.
7.  Lines - Unreleased, booted  *Not bad, but nor worthy of release. Reminds me a little of "Marketplace".
8.  On Broadway - Unreleased, booted  *Might be OK for a 2-fer bonus track.
9.  It’s Trying To Say - Unreleased, booted  *Always liked this one. Nice upbeat song about America's pastime. Might be OK for a 2-fer bonus track.


Coulda been contenders for Adult Child......

1. Mony Mony - Unreleased, booted  *Not bad, but not worthy of release. Maybe on a good day.
2. Ruby Baby - Unreleased, booted  *Not bad, but not worthy of release.
3. Marilyn Rovell - Unreleased, booted  *Uh..........no.

[TimeToGetAlone]

For unreleased stuff, I quite like Lines and It's Trying to Say and would be pleased to see them released.  Everybody Wants to Live also provides some quirky fun.  I personally think the non-Big Band tracks sound more like demos in their production, so I think I'd like them even better with more of a Love You sheen.